Yeah, it was nothing more than aid, right? No chance Ukriane will join the EU at all

yeah, it was nothing more than aid, right? No chance Ukriane will join the EU at all...

reuters.com/article/uk-ukraine-eu-loans/eu-plans-further-1-billion-euros-of-aid-to-ukraine-idUKKCN1GL1QF

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The EU is supporting the Ukraine as a move against Russia. Them taking Ukraine as part of the EU is so dumb it's not even on the table. EU would sooner accept the fucking Georgians before the Ukrainians.

What the fuck, let them join. Now with one of the three big financers the UK getting out, let's just adopt another bottomless hole for farming subsidies. It'll be the final straw that breaks the camel's back, and the whole EU will come apart.

yeah about that, we also need more gibs dad

For perspective poland was in better economic shape in 2004 when joining the EU than Ukraine is now. Accepting Ukraine into EU would crash the budget.

It's too bad. The Visegrad Alliance is the only hope for Europe. Fuck the EU.

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But Georgia could never join because it is currently under partial occupation.
Ironically saved by Russia in that regard.

Financial seppuku aside, the Ukraine is just too corrupt, undemocratic and crime ridden to politically qualify as a member state.

An anti-EU German?!

Baltics will never be part of it, too notable of a geograpic weak link. We will be abandoned first hand when war comes, like we always were.

Russia would absolutely bomb shit if it went down to Ukraine joining Nato on its border. That's a real WW3 scenario.

When we were still 8 or 12 member states, it could have worked out. Now you know this is just going to fall apart one day. The EU is far too diverse politcally and economically to be able to work together.

Belarus is not the enemy, they just currently under Russian occupation.
Also, Baltics will happily join Visegrad.

>a real WW3 scenario
Which Russia would lose past the initial ICBM exchange.

too bad this shit will never happen

Russia doesn't scare me. They lost against fucking peasants high on smack in Afghanistan.
What scares me more is the economic devastation bringing a huge third world country into the EU.

And how do you classify the whole thing with Crimea and eastern Ukraine? do we just accept that it's Russian territory to take Ukraine into EU or do we not recognize it, accept Ukraine into EU breaking European union treaties in the process and start ww3 because PESCO is a thing now

Belarus is actually cooperating with us and Baltic states are the closest to joining from all the countries

Under Ukrainian law it a temporarily occupied territory. It still Ukraine.

This is great, the european union needs to become larger.
We need to expand the union if we want to remain relevant
>Ukraine
>Iceland
>Switzerland
>Turkey
>Bosnia
>Albania
>Serbia
>Montenegro
>Macedonia
>Kosovo
>and norway
Should all join, and become part of the european family. Int the future, the union could expand to Northern Africa and the Middle East. Us Europeans and the Algerians, Tunis, Iraqis, kurds and Israelis have a lot in common

They still hosting Russian troops and have a lot economic connections with Russia.

>eastern Ukraine
Is this still going on? Everybody seems to have forgotten about it. Sort of like Israel never moved out of the Golan Heights and neither Israel nor Syria are mentioning it.

So they can't join without resolving this issue

>US flag
Fuck off, most Europeans support the union. Only Brits and Sup Forumsacks dislike the EU

Fuck you, Mustafa. Your Albania or Kosovo or whatever it is will never be a part of the EU.
And also it's no use trying to hide your flag. Real Europeans don't do that, so we know it must be you.

Vlad the Mad?

And yet they show good will and want to be a part of the infrastructural project

now show us your german flag lol

>They lost against fucking peasants high on smack in Afghanistan.

Peasants, who were directly supported by everyone from Saudi Arabia to China and the USA. You can't really win against guerrilla militia tactics, unless you're ready to exterminate the entire population. It's the same reason why the US still cannot fully control Afghanistan after 17 years of war.

I agree. The EU, like other empires can only hold together when it is continuously expanding to new territories to exploit. Like the USSR in Afghanistan. Might take decades to recover from this blow so get ready for the collapse.

Yep both sides are still shooting each other from trenches and shelling cities with mortars.

He's a muslim, from one of the sub-80-IQ countries that are Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia.
Real Europeans don't have to hide their flags.

Our fashits are against actually joining the EU, but are happy to get all the other help.

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I am Swedish, my family originally came from Albania

The conflict low key continues with the Ukrainians having the upper hand, but Kiev has cucked to Kremlins demands and refuses to go on the offense and finish the job.
Russia has officially abandoned the communist rebels and the Ukrainian govt. has denied the national guard to advance. Both are intentionally drawing it out for some reason.

You got the map wrong nigger

>Fuck off, most Europeans support the union.

Unironically this. People can bitch about muh globalization on /pol all they want, but at the end of the day Europeans love the visa-free travel and other perks the EU brings them.

They just want your money. Belarusian government is ultra pro-russian. And in not going anywhere soon, after Maidan they crashed and jailed all opposition.

>spontaneous self defence reaction by civilians
>shows troops uniformally armed with standard russian gear

>Belarusian government is ultra pro-russian
Wrong, Бaтькa is a sleazy fuck who tries to sit on two chairs at once

From the perspective of politicians in Brussel and Strassbourg, you may be right. However the common people have grown more and more euroskeptic as the EU expanded uncontrollably. Like I felt part of the EU when it still was a project of 8 or 10 very similar member states. But now? How the fuck can I identify with the EU when countries like Bulgaria are in it, and they talk about accepting Turkey or the Ukraine?!? It's not my club anymore, but instead a heartless project run by megalomaniac politicians.

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Does EU need orcaine though?

Poroshenko is a fucking Kremlin puppet, that for sure.
Unfortunately right now any opposition get jailed or mysteriously disappear.
And "Western Partners" not interested in helping Ukraine at all. Ironically, it Poland who support Ukraine the most, despite our relations is far from good, because of anti-ukrainian laws.

>Russia doesn't scare me
Russia has nukes, kraut.

>orcaine
What is that? Organic cocaine? Sure, our polticians and upper class sniff a lot of that stuff.

Btw. did you know that most drugs reach the EU through Ukrainian harbours? It's because the Ukraine is so corrupt, they don't even have to smuggle the drugs. They just unload the ship and pay the border guards some look-away-money.

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Russia wont do shit against NATO

That is the only thing you really have. Also west Europe has interceptor missiles on the stand-by.

That's ukraine made from orcs.
Ukraine is fucking corrupt. It is Russia Lite, same stuff but smaller and for some reason they think that they are not russians.

* T I G E R S

> That is the only thing you really have.
Srsly? What about space rockets, warships, strategic bombers, fighter airplanes, tanks and infantry?

>NIGGERS
You have a debuff.

You forgot about S-P-A-C-E and T-I-G-E-R-S

S P A C E rockets you say?
And NATO has plenty of those other things too, in an all out conflict Russia has no chance against a decentralized structure like NATO.

Yes, but all of that doesn't really work. It just functions enough to roll around the Red Square on the 9th of may.
For how many years has the Russian Army now tried to conquer the Ukraine? 6? 7? And they can't even do that.
Pretty poor army.

FUCK OFF, speak for yourself Mustafa.

Is this a new meme I don't know about?

Russia can nuke the planet into oblivion if it has to. I hope it won't but it still can. Russia and US are only two countries that can do that.

Do you really think that Russia tried conquering ukraine?

>I am Swedish, my family originally came from Albania
>I am Swedish

>Is this a new meme I don't know about?

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but it still can
*Could have, not not anymore. Remember that anti-ballistic shields are a thing now, and they will be even more prevalent and effective in a few decades.

Everybody knows you did, at least the eastern part. It was supposed to be just like Krym. But then the natives fought back. However the people they fight are Putin's soldiers, and their coffins get sent back to Russia. The lie with them being Ukrainian separatists is a pretty obbvious lie.

Kiev is a great city and really european in culture. Shame the rest of the country isn't as good

Top kek

Delusion is still a thing in the Baltic states I see

The US only has 50 missiles (30 or so in EU) for its ABM shield in total and we've only tested them against old ICBM designs with about a 60% success rate. We also have about 150 more ship-based missiles that may or may not be usable against ICBMs.
Russia and the US each have 7000 nuclear ICBMs.

I never said that we have them
>old ICBM designs
Aka current Russian ones

Do you want to discuss it now? There is only one potential enemy of Russia and they have somewhat decent anti-missile defense in Europe and in the seas with Aegis systems.
Russia can nuke from whatever direction.
We don't wage war because of retaliation (and because we don't want to, they aren't enemies)
For what purpose? I will not dispute Crimea or involvement in eastern Ukraine, but there was no objective in conquering something. Those fuckers just asked for it and they got what they wanted in my opinion.

Some of the current Russian ones, yes. Care to explain how 50 missiles will take out 7000 nukes? Or how about 1 Sarmat being able to level France, should we just let that one through since we can't shoot it down? It's ok right? I mean the Russians only have like one or 2 of those anyway.
Fucking potato I swear to god. We need better allies. Pay your 2%

For what purpose did Putin go to war in Tshetshnia? Expansion, more power. He is your tsar, he is just not called a tsar anymore.

i fixed your outdated map

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Simple. Once the nukes start to fly MAD happens, and in that case Russia is fucked, while parts of Europe & the west will remain functional due to decentralization.
Russia is a single target, Europe & the US are not.

Because Chechnya is a part of russia and they wanted to separate and there are proofs of them being paid by CIA to secede. Suddenly it's not okay to prevent secession of Chechnya but it's okay to prevent secession of Catalonia?

These are dark times. We deserve them.

>7000 nukes are enough to completely glass the planet
>6950 are ok though, we can handle that
Sometimes I just want Trump to drop this shit and go full isolationism. Our allies are so retarded that the chinks and russkies are guaranteed to win just because we have to carry this dead weight.

I am looking towards the VERY bright future though

I never said that. I'm OK if Catalonia wants to be their own coutry. Just look at Yugoslavia - they didn't want to be together, and they had to start a war to separate. It's better if you can just do it with a referendum.

We ain't your allies, and bring your 2% bullshit to Germany, not those who actually fulfill it.

But Merkel wants us to feed refugees with the money. (Btw. around 40 billion Euros per year.)