>The phenomenon isn’t new, but in the weeks since the tragic shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., a lot of gun-skeptical liberals are getting a taste of it for the first time: While debating the merits of various gun control proposals, Second Amendment enthusiasts often diminish, or outright dismiss their views if they use imprecise firearms terminology. Perhaps someone tweets about “assault-style” weapons, only to be told that there’s no such thing. Maybe they’re reprimanded that an AR-15 is neither an assault rifle nor “high-powered.” Or they say something about “machine guns” when they really mean semiautomatic rifles. Or they get sucked into an hours-long Facebook exchange over the difference between a “clip” and a “magazine.”
>Has this happened to you? If so, you’ve been gunsplained: harangued with the pedantry of the more-credible-than-thou firearms owner, admonished that your inferior knowledge of guns and their nomenclature puts an asterisk next to your opinion on gun control.
>Gunsplaining, though, is always done in bad faith. Like mansplaining, it’s less about adding to the discourse than smothering it — with self-appointed authority, and often the thinnest of connection to any real fact.
So, at long last we have a term for when people on Sup Forums correct posters over clips/magazines; Gunsplaining.
this is the term the liberals are trying to shill as an attack label. they are trying to dismiss the fact that people who cant even understand BASIC firearm terms should legislate. fuck em. ill call out ever single gun grabbing lib i see
Julian Bell
Well, nyqqa, we’re gonna keep having them until you like it.
Joshua Flores
Woah It's like these gunsplainers said a car isn't a bicycle. Or a hand a foot. Or water a solid. Woah. These nazi conservatives are so scary. I can't believe it's the current year!
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF LIBTARDS
Gabriel Garcia
Well, maybe they shouldnt be trying to shit out law after law for things that they have no clue what the fuck they are writing laws for.
Zachary Morales
If mansplaining is explain shit from a man's point of view (And that can be ignorant if a guy is explaining a period to someone who actually has them) then Gunsplaining would be explaining from a gun autist point of view. Can we explain this to other things? When a lawyer explains law, lawsplaining? When a mechanic explains car workings; mechsplaining? Pastor explaining the bible; Godsplaining?
Jose Jackson
Hey, libruls, you know how you can avoid 'gunsplaining'? Know your fucking shit. You can't get 'gunsplained' if you don't sound like an ignorant dumbass. If you hate something, educate yourself on it, so your ass won't get dismissed out of hand for being moronic. "But muh points stand!" Nigerian, it matters fuckall. Delivery counts as much as content. In the legal world, cases get thrown out of court for procedural vices all the time. Why wouldn't procedural vices in the case of a debate not elicit the same response?
Aaron Hernandez
Why bother forming educated arguments when you can just call the other side evil. youtu.be/HLNhPMQnWu4
What a POS. He's one of those fags that join the military and hate its culture because they're liberal. I've met a few so far on my first enlistment, and usually they're women.
Jack Wood
The far-left has genuinely just turned into another spin on the religious right. They are zealous authoritarians who are firmly against science and education if reality doesn't back their delusions and beliefs.
>Perhaps someone tweets about “assault-style” weapons, only to be told that there’s no such thing. There is though >Maybe they’re reprimanded that an AR-15 is neither an assault rifle nor “high-powered." It is though
Luke Green
Assault weapon is a made up term used for fearmongering. If I glue a foregrip and some picatinny rails to my fist is it an assault fist? According to the legal definition it is. This is retarded beyond belief. An AR15, while being in an intermediate caliber, is not an assault rifle. It is not capable of select fire. Also, 5.56 isn't all that high powered when compared to the plethora of common rifle calibers on the market.
Evan Ramirez
>Too weak to lawfully hunt deer with in many jurisdictions across north America in the typical .223Rem/5.56x45 chambering >Not select-fire, one of the defining characteristics of an assault rifle >Legislating based on aesthetic and/or ergonomic features Anyone who holds these beliefs deserves all the berating comments and public humiliation they get and then some. If lawful gun owners with AR-15's were as dangerous to public safety as people oft claim, then we would be seeing a lot more dead leftists. If the intent is to continuously attack said lawful firearm owners until some say "That's enough" and actually follow suit, then I have to say you kinda deserve it.
>try to explain the differences between a clip and a magazine on plebbit >all I get is a bunch of "witty" sarcastic comments and flak for doing so I know deep down this is my fault but I hate that site regardless, Sup Forums may have meme retards but reddit has literal mouthbreathers who larp as non mouthbreathers.
Anyone who ever uses the term mansplaining unironically is not worth listening to
Ian Parker
It's kinda scary to think about, but for all 4chans faults we genuinely are one of the best sites around for talking about specific concepts; you tend to forget that until you actually go to other sites and have the horrifying revelation that we actually aren't at the bottom of the retardation pit.
Michael Gomez
This is true, everyone on sites like Reddit just try too hard or something, it's really weird and difficult to describe if you haven't experienced it firsthand. For all the faults this site may have its king when it comes to legitimate discussions. Certainly much more enjoyable at the very least.
Liam Edwards
>horrifying revelation that we actually aren't at the bottom of the retardation pit This completeley sums up why I still come here despite all the bullshit
Alexander Nguyen
I think it has a lot to do with having embraced their dickishness that comes with (relative) anonymity. We just say whatever is on our minds and everyone rolls with it. No appearances to keep up, no digging through someone's post history for something too "politically incorrect" in order to just disregard whatever they said regardless of how logically sound it is... It's a love/hate relationship. I don't know who you are and I probably adamantly disagree with something about you, but I still wish you all the best in life.
Andrew Thompson
But whenever you make an account on Reddit you have the option to not link your email or someshit, so you're still pretty much anonymous minus what would be your tripname unless you do some dumb shit like post your personal information. I think these sites just attract certain types of people. I'm just glad boards like Sup Forums and Sup Forums soak up the wide majority of them, god knows how much Sup Forums's quality would decline without them, as weird as it may sound.
Jonathan Reyes
I'm going to go back to calling them "transsexuals," and then accuse anyone who corrects me of "transplaining."
Angel Martinez
I think a big part of it is lack of anonymity and the fact that there is a reward system. If I'm anonymous sure I can troll like a shit bag, but i can also say exactly what I think without fear of repercussion. When I put my name on my comments all I can do is virtue signal for upvotes or be honest and risk losing my job.i have to wonder how many people on reddit are actually passionate about their views and how many just think they are because they like the feeling they get when someone clicks the orange arrow.
Asher Turner
The lack of upvotes pushing popular comments to the top of the page while everything else gets sent to bottom page hell helps a lot too, you really do have to judge most posts by their individual merits rather than any other factor.
>use jargon. Its not jargin.a magazine isnt the same as a stripper clip. Doesnt even go inside the same rifle. Thats like saying a iphone uses a samsung phone connector. Then when a phone owner corrects you. You say that person is just using jargin.
More like saying samsung phones explode sometimes so we need to ban iphone wireless headphones
James Young
I know right? Everybody assume that because you are a leftist, you are either an aggressive Californian-leftist or an aggressive communist. Either is wrong. I think we can both live with a leftist government and the actual firearm control.
Sadly, such a government is far from now...
Charles Gonzalez
Then we need to hear from you! Make yourself seen and heard. The likes of you don't exist as far as we, the people, know. All we see are ANTIFA harassing everyone on behalf of the political elite.
Eli Anderson
Nobody can agree on what an "assault weapon" is due to the fact that none of the legislation is consistent, and is in fact based on unnecessary features that are almost entirely for comfort, ease of use, or just looking cool.
There technically is a semi-consistent idea of what an "assault weapon" is that floats around, but it's 100% flown around by people who don't know what they're talking about. If the dumb fucks actually took the time to define assault weapon in definite terms they'd actually have a leg to stand on. (that, and half of them would realize how fucking retarded they are being)
Also no, the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, and it's not a high-powered rifle, it's an intermediate powered rifle. There are significantly more powerful rifles on the market than AR-15s.
Brayden Edwards
Its a sportsman rifle. Semi auto loading rifle. Thats it. Its not an assult rifle. That would be an m16
Hunter Johnson
>samsung phone connector. it's call a micro-usb sorry for the technical jargon
Isaac Lopez
I looked up assault rifle on Wikipedia and found this: >The termassault rifleis generally attributed toAdolf Hitler, who forpropagandapurposes...
Noah Hughes
Shit I don't know why it removed the spaces. Larger quote:
"The termassault rifleis generally attributed toAdolf Hitler, who forpropagandapurposes used the German word "Sturmgewehr" (which translates to "storm rifle" or "assault rifle"), as the new name for the MP43, subsequently known as theSturmgewehr 44 or StG 44."
>sorry for the technical jargon Its a Type-C on my Samsung phone. Dildo. Now scurry back off to Reddit.
David Smith
If I ever met a grown man IRL talking like this I would laugh hysterically and call him a faggot. This is just embarassing and unmasculine.
Brody Reed
Next thing you gun nuts will say is that someone who wants to limit drinking should know the difference between beer and whiskey.
Cooper Parker
Filthy cellsplainer!
Bentley Baker
I don't need to tell anyone here this, but here it is anyway. If they are going to legislate bans based on nitpicky little details, they should understand those nitpicky little details.
Angel Gonzalez
>be wrong. >get corrected. >belittle people for telling you that are wrong because it is easier than not repeating something that is wrong ad nauseam.
Technically gunsplaining should be a diagnostic criteria of the dangerously violent autism that will be grounds for gun nuts having no due process when their guns are taken away.
If you can't understand basic fucking terminology then you don't get to ban my shit.
Matthew Foster
>harangued with the pedantry of the more-credible-than-thou firearms owner, admonished that your inferior knowledge of guns and their nomenclature puts an asterisk next to your opinion on gun control. >it’s less about adding to the discourse than smothering it — with self-appointed authority, and often the thinnest of connection to any real fact. >Self-appointed authority >Thinnest connection to any real fact
I... I don't get it. I've seen them do this over other topics in the past but... What the actual fuck?
>one side are disingenuous assholes and the other side doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about
nothing new here
Isaac Bailey
>what are >Redneck Revolt >John Brown Gun Club >Huey P Newton Gun Club >Pink Pistols >Socialist Rifle Association >The Hampton Institute >The Industrial Workers of the World >General Defense Committee Along with hundreds of other State and local organizations.
PROTIP: You probably consider all of the above "ANTIFA." Which isn't an acronym OR an organization.
Consider the context of this thread. Most of you are as ignorant of leftist politics in America as liberal retards are regarding firearms. And frankly most of you show as much interest in correcting your ignorance as libs do of learning about guns.
these are the same people that will cry when you call illegal spics illegal aliens (which they literally are) because muh brought here as children
Gabriel Davis
>the AR-15 is not an assault rifle The AR-15 is not AN assault rifle it is THE assault rifle. Words are just sounds people assign meaning to. When people say "assault rifle" they're talking about "the AR-15 and things like it." If it were a scientific or technical term, you could say they were wrong. But it's not. It's a colloquial term. It's like if you started insisting a ladle is only a ladle if it can carry more than 500mL of liquid. Theres no fucking institute of ladle scientists.
Zachary Rivera
You type this like I give an actual fuck. Like I'm gonna search for faggot gun clubs that cater to anti-gun commies.
Go fuck yourself
Eli Scott
The retardedness of this thread has gone over the top.
/thread
Lincoln Bennett
>/r/socialistra what
Levi Morales
There is a technical definition for assault rifles. Non-selective fire rifles are not an assault rifle. They are trying to conflate the ar15 and any semi auto rifle as assault rifles and these people are fools and should be ridiculed until they learn. Your example is foolish and you should kill yourself.
>that image but it's already a thing being discussed and doesn't need meme images to back it, it's called net neutrality and is intended, either way, to return to the time of the printing press, but just different aspects of it -- either the sheer cost of the press being reflected in certain media outlets being given financial preference, or the later ease of lithography and conceptual simplicity of the press lending anyone with enough effort to spare the ability to do press
>>washingtonpost.com >>(((weinstein))) >everytime of course it's the same every time it's the same one article that keeps getting posted you retard
>trump image he's banning a ton of gun shit by executive order now lmao
Connor Taylor
>phoneposters YOU NEED TO BE GASSED AND BOMBED
Daniel Nguyen
>The F-16 is not A multirole fighter it is THE multirole fighter. >Words are just sounds people assign meaning to. When people say "multirole fighter" they're talking about "the F-16 and things like it." >If it were a scientific or technical term, you could say they were wrong. But it's not. It's a colloquial term. this is how retarded you sound
Hudson Nguyen
What specifically has trump banned? I believe nothing. Now why don't you stick to shit you know about. Like gender studies, protesting, and collecting welfare from tax paying citizens
kys
Charles Cox
>Words are just sounds people assign meaning to. You're the kind of retarded faggot who uses the word "literally" in place of "figuratively".
William Murphy
>What specifically has trump banned? Well, not muslims, eh?
Blake Russell
bump stocks, assault-style memes, and anime
Christopher Ward
hey i made that pic. nice to know someone uses it :)
Gavin Carter
You trolling or are you actually that oblivious? Either way you're fucking retarded.
AR-15s, unless specially modified, are not assault rifles. They are semi-automatic rifles with modern features. THE assault rifle is the Sturmgewehr 44, which word for word translates to "Assault Rifle 44" (Imagine muh shock!) Assault Rifle is a specific term for a firearm that can fill a variety of roles in combat. They fire an intermediate cartridge and have multiple firing modes.
Maybe you are confused with the term "Assault Weapon" which is what the Jewish gun-grabbers repeat ad infinitum to make AR-15s seem scarier than they are.
No it's more like someone trying to ban whiskey because low ABV beers are just as good and then saying whisky is the same as moonshine.
Lincoln Stewart
>THE assault rifle is the Sturmgewehr 44, arguable at best. please dont start this. this thread is angry enough without this particular salt mine
Jackson Mitchell
>Next thing you gun nuts will say is that someone who wants to limit drinking should know the difference between beer and whiskey. im the one who made the "You can have an opinion on emissions standards/roadwork/auto mfg even if you don't know what an AW11 is" but damn nigga if you want to enact prohibition, you should probably know what the different drinks actually are are like and the current economic and cultural practices surrounding different sorts of boozahol
Isaac Martinez
Its literally german for "assault rifle 44".is it the first select fire rifle chambered in an intermediate cartridge? Debatable. Did it coin the term and codify the definition of "assault rifle"? You bet your momma's sweet, milky tiddies it did.
Dylan Murphy
>the founding fathers were smart enough to not mention the type of arms >marx outright says "muskets" good luck in your revolution comrade
Ethan Nelson
What's arguable about it? It's literally the rifle that coined the term. If not for the StG 44, then assault rifles would likely be called something completely different.
Jacob Baker
it literally translates to "Storm Rifle", not "Assault Rifle". it just happens that to storm is the same kind of metaphor in German as it is in english
>Did it coin the term and codify the definition of "assault rifle"? most people consider the AK47 to be the first true assault rifle thanks to its ergonomics, wide deployment, and intended use being more in line with modern assault doctrine, and the StG being more of an oversized submachine gun given to people who rightfully could have used more battle rifles
there's a reason it's AKs on flags and coins across the world while the StG is a collector's piece that fails commercially every time someone tries to reproduce it in a modern caliber
Adam Bailey
The new S8s are USB-A though. So is the Pixel 2. USB-C seems to be getting phased out, from what I see. >USB-C is the battle rifle of Micro USBs
Logan Gonzalez
>most people consider the AK47 to be the first true assault rifle no
Carter Torres
>AK-47
Joshua Myers
"Storm" is not a fucking metaphor, you GIGANTIC retard. Storming inti a building is not some clever word play to indicate the subject is moving about like some rain clouds, it is literally a definition of storm. Sturm is LITERALLY a german translation for assault. Jump off a cliff, you enourmous faggot.
Camden Gray
>calls the STG-44 an over sized machine gun >AK-47 was a replacement for the PPsh-41, a submachine gun 0/10
Nathan Hernandez
Literally posting this on a Galaxy S8. The charge port is USB Micro-C
I'm guilty of being ignorant regarding this, that I will admit. I've done some reading on these organizations, and it was interesting. What baffles me, and this is not a continuation of my previous statement, is that identity politics is associated with socialism in USA. Being against racism, pro LGBT, etc. is considered... socialism? It's rather weird that contemporary socialism can only define itself in relation to what it opposes, rather than defining itself based on what it advocates.
It is good that these organizations advocate gun rights, but the whole identity politics part mixed in contributes to dividing people from fighting for common rights. It's counter-intuitive.
One thing I'll add is that whether or not I consider them Antifa doesn't matter. It appears that some of them, like the GDC pose with Antifa flags, thus associating themselves with tools of the political elite...
Leo Taylor
It's an idiom, retard.
Charles Lewis
>no dictionary detected. Nope, try the fuck again. Storm verb
1.
move angrily or forcefully in a specified direction.
(of troops) suddenly attack and capture (a building or other place) by means of force.
"Indian commandos stormed a hijacked plane early today"
synonyms:attack,charge,rush,assail,descend on,swoop on
"police stormed the building"
Its not an idiom, its not a metaphor, its not a ppay of words, its not a double entendre, its not a description of the action. Its literally the DEFINITION of the fucking word.
