Name 3 things he did wrong

No seriously, what were his 3 biggest mistakes during ww2? Basically, why did they lose? Was it inevitable?

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He didn't go full Nazi.

Define ''full Nazi''

He focused too much on killing Jews and he had not allocate enough of his resources to win the war

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Abandoning development of strategic bombers. Underestimating the importance of nuclear weapons. Alienating anti-communist populations of Russians, Ukrainians, etc. on occupied territory of the Soviet Union.

- The Halt order of june 1940
- falling sick in August 41 (when generals altered the plans)
- Cancelling the Malta Invasion in the Summer of 42 to go to El Alamein

The single biggest mistake was his anglophilia influencing how he dealt with the british

Letting the british troops escape at dunkirk

1) Not giving the atomic bomb full funding and top priority.
2) Not driving straight for the kill (seizing the capital, destroying the leadership) when fighting the Soviet Union, but rather diverting to seize agricultural land to avoid hunger (and thereby playing into the Soviet scorched earth strategy).
3) Not understanding air superiority and prioritizing fighter development after they already had adequate tactical bombers.

In my restless dreams, I see that town. Berlin.

You promised you'd take there again someday, but you never did. Well, I'm alone now, waiting for you. Waiting for you to come to see me, but you never do. And so I wait, wrapped in my cocoon of pain and loneliness. I know I've done a terrible thing to you, something you'll never forgive me for. I wish I could change that, but I can't. I feel so pathetic and ugly laying here, waiting for you. Every day I stare up at the cracks in the ceiling and I can think about is how unfair it all is.

The SPLC came today. They told me I only had a short stay. It's not that things will get better. It's that this may be my last chance.

I think you know what I mean.

1 Germany probably couldn't afford a Strategic Air force with all the other commitments.

2 He was misinformed about it

3 There was no real other choice than treating these populations ruthlessly, he had to take their resources and eliminate the partisans inside them.

Attack Russia in winter lol?

Ally with the Japs , y??

create concentration camps? He should have just deported them and been done with it. Creating state run murder was a horrible idea we're still hearing about it today the Jewish tears will never be squelched. Good job Germany

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well his biggest mistake was that he was semi-educated frustrated charlatan and so were his closest associates
from this stem all his failures and failures of his regime
he did no such thing, he just ordered tanks to halt (because he received information that 50% were out of action), and he ordered Luftwaffe to prevent evacuation
few days later he ordered armored units to advance too, but by then it was too late
his actions had nothing to do with mercy, he simply made a bad operational decision, and there was also the element of allowing ''national socialist'' Luftwaffe to reap the glory, as opposed to Heer which was still quite apolitical and autonomous

2. Napoleon did that, it didn't work. Taking Moscow would have been an important victory, but it wouldn't be enough to decisively defeat the USSR. Stalin had another capital ready.

>Attack Russia in winter lol?
June is not winter
in fact, it is the start of summer

kill jews
kill russians
kill white people

in Napoleons time Moscow wasn't the the infrastructural center of Russia, or a major industrial zone
still, taking Moscow is easier said than done, Moscow was a fortress
what would happen was probably Stalingrad before Stalingrad

1. Cuck to reactionaries
2. Badly organise the military
3. Help italy and not rush ussr

1. He didn't fully let go of the ego.
2. He was tricked into invading Poland by a Tibetan black magician, The Man With The Green Gloves.
3. His esoteric allies (British 'Golden Dawn' and German 'OTO') fell into the hands of black magician Aleister Crowley.

Every military commander knows you don't start a campaign in June you start in March

>Was it inevitable?
He could have won if he'd been willing to compromise his morals. I'm not sure his morals were quite aligned with reality. On the day of the rope, every white traitor will hang with the nonwhites. I don't give a fuck if they might have woken up later. You try to help the demons murder our race, you stretch with the demons.

Well we go back to the politics > pragmatism attitude that hitler had.

>What he should have done is sing Kumbaya with the kike's puppets, not fight them!
Neck yourself, nigger.

they underestimated the strength of the Soviet state
>You have only to kick in the door,” said Hitler confidently, “and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.”

He did not discover Britain's chain home, or that near the end of the Battle of Britain, the RAF virtually had no planes.
He shouldn't have marched on Moscow, with his soldiers ill-prepped to drag on into the winter.
He should have not let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.

retarded rapebaby

>- The Halt order of june 1940
Yes, to this day, this one is pretty weird.

1. Lost the war
2. Didn't do the holocaust
3. Hmmm... can't really think of anything else.

2 front war in bad climate.

Didn't strike peace and consolidate at opportune times.

Allowed too much propaganda against him to go unchecked.

Lebensraum
Demanding the Sudentenland
Demaning Gdansk

yes and no
Hitler did make pragmatic decisions (MR pact most obviously, Night of the Long Knives), but again, Hitler was a semi-educated faggot who surrounded himself with even more retarded sycophants for the most part
Spengler characterized him excellently, as a ''heroic tenor'', as opposed to a real hero
when your head is rotten, body will inevitably die, especially when you start a conflict with 4 great powers
ignoring his abuse of drugs, he was incredibly deluded and arrogant man, and success of his armies in France made him think he's an infallible genius
even though he literally didn't do shit but pick Mansteins plan because it offered the most bang for bucks
during the execution of this plan, he almost ruined it by wanting to halt his armies to guard against phantom French threat from the southwest
luckily for him, Halder and others realized the opportunity and pressed for further offensive, which resulted in French collapse
''To Lose a Battle'' is a good read about this

you're wrong my rapebaby.

Hitler was a literal imbecile. That's why he lost.

Besides what you rapebabies know about war anyway.

it's not weird at all, here, this is what happened

well he wasn't an imbecile, given how he came to power, but he wasn't that capable either (outside of seizing and holding power)

>mfw we ruled those rapebabies for 500 years
geg :DDDDD

Dunkirk, attacking Russia during winter, and having bad advisors.

He attacked in the Middle-of-Summer, you absolute mong!

>given how he came to power

Germans were retarded. So was Hitler.

Choosing Jews instead of niggers and Muslims for the holocaust. He should have just genocided the entire continent of Africa.

Imagine how many lives would have been saved if there were no Muslims and niggers since the 40’s?

...

He was the shill of all shills, just following orders of his masters, the Bush family, Rotschild, the Royals.

Not reinstalling Kaiser Wilhelm as head of state
Not getting useful allies
Not restoring the lost territory via diplomacy and keeping it
>Not being Bismarck 2.0

He was a pretty good war leader, it's amazing that the war lasted so long after the winter 41-42 when the strategic situation went completely against Germany,

He decided to go full frontal with russians on Siberia grounds

>Try to force a concentrated cornered army into surrender
>British make a breakthrough in desperation and cut German army in two
>WW2 ends in an embarrassing defeat with British and French boots in Berlin

>Not reinstalling Kaiser Wilhelm as head of state

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it's not really
Hitler was a gambler
his decision to hold ground in 1941 was also a gamble
Hitler didn't execute the operations, he just gave out orders and far more competent subordinates did it
German officer corps was excellent, they had that going for them, and that was their main advantage, at least out of factors they controlled
as for them holding out till 1945, that just happened because they fought until the end
Germans in WW1 could've fought on in 1918, it wouldn't change the outcome but with some good plan they could've held out a year or so
however they gave up once defeat was certain

Hitler also made incredibly retarded decisions...for example sending 300,000 troops to Tunisia so they can get captured

He didn't conquer Britain. Britain was the main reason why Germany lost the war. He should have invaded from the get go.

He spread his forces too thin in Russia. Literally the same mistake Napoleon made. Hitler was dumb.

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that wouldn't happen
but what could potentially happen is German armor getting fucked up and becoming unable to continue offensive towards Paris in force
that would give French some relief, and they might've stopped Fall Rot
of course, this is pure speculation

Cam I have a source on that?

We wish he killed them all

Well that's what happened to the French and the German army was in terms of logistics and equipment inferior on paper.

as I told the Finn, ''To Lose a Battle'' by Sir Alistair Horne is a great book on the French campaign

Dunkirk
Micromanaged his generals
Speed Junkie

What do you think about us ruling over you for 500 years and stealing our culture

That's false, Napoleon when straight for Moscow instead of Hitler who chose the correct strategy with three main axis of attack to avoid being flanked and to try to destroy the Soviet industry and economy

Not going to name three, it doesn't have to be three, just going to say that he went into Russia for an extremely long, protracted battle against a giant army with a giant amount of tanks, which helped nobody, and America decided to come in from the west. That's what happened. He should've consolidated wins after France, sued for peace with Britain because they're on an island anyway so fuck it, divide Europe between himself and Italy, and by all means NOT TO FUCKING TELL THE JAPS TO GO AFTER THE US until everybody was NICE and READY FOR THEM

it was superior in many other areas though
still, I feel the main difference between French and Soviets is that French didn't have 1000km to retreat
they actually adapted to Germans rather quickly, and tried something similar to pocket defense that Germans used to some effect on Eastern Front, but by then it was too late

are you a member of the Ottoman family?
because if you aren't, you weren't really ruling over anyone

>That's false, Napoleon when straight for Moscow instead of Hitler who chose the correct strategy with three main axis of attack to avoid being flanked and to try to destroy the Sov
1 There was no industry or economy during Napoleon's time (the country was not industrialized until late early 1900s, that's last century guys)
2 I'm pretty sure what happened to Napoleon was more of a case of it being too far, too long. It's not that he couldn't beat the Russians, he couldn't beat the Russians...IN RUSSIA...AFTER FIGHTING A LONG ASS WAR ON TOP OF THAT. It was too optimistic. That is the only thing that was similar, Hitler also was too optimistic.

- he sent numerous peace offers to Britain (even publicly)
- The japs did their own thing, what he could have done is trying to coordinate Barbarossa with them.

But I did.
My greatx7 ancestor was a sipahi from Inner Anatolia who balkangreuel'd you

Even if the western allies hadn't attacked from Britain the Russians would still have finished the job themselves. It would have taken them a lot longer with horrendous amounts of casualties but they still would have overpowered the Germans with sheer manpower.

What, the French? As far as I know, the French ran for one half of their country. There was considerable desertion and defeatism in their ranks, they practically gave up Paris for free.

Battle of britain was a waste of resources and crippled the Luftwaffe, he shouldn´t have bothered.

good for you
there was, there were also cases of units fighting excellently
>half of their country
well it's still only a few hundred kilometers, and once their front was collapsed at the start of Fall Rot, it was over

Was he credible? I mean, he was a journalist. Does he cite his sources

1. did not kill enough jews
2. did not win ww2
3. did not provide qt aryan goddesses to all every neet in the west

1. Didn't invade UK early on topple the shitstain monarchy.
2. Didn't wait till spring in eastern front or ask ally nation Finland on how to properly gear for russian winter before knee deep in snow
3. Didn't device a plan to expatriate or exterminate the jews instead imprisoning them to labor camps

No he didn't, before US came into picture?!?!?! Britain was on its last legs, they were all scared to shit, they would've accepted an armstice in no time at all.
The japs were in an alliance with the Germans, they did not need to have tight relationships like Italy did to Germany to be reasoned with and back off a giant country like the US that was making Model Ts at that point and was industrialized.

invade the soviet union
if he didnt invaded the soviet union he wouldnt had to declare war on america

oh I do wish that but his way at doing things were not that great

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The Luftwaffe should never have started wasting their resources bombing civilians in retaliation. If they'd have kept to their strategic plans things might have been different.

He fought two fronts at once, one of which was with the goddamn CCCP.

He dabbled in meth/quaaludes/drugs which always ends in self-destructive degeneracy.

Can't really think of a third thing.

He usurped power.

Illegitimate

Dear and warmonger


A mere thief failed painter.

I wouldn’t necessarily critizise hitler for starting a war with four great powers, as he was effectively forced into it. He could have avoided war with the US, but US pratically joined the allies when the lend lease started.

>Was he credible? I mean, he was a journalist. Does he cite his sources
of course
I mean, it's a nice read outside of purely historical interest too, he gives a very detailed daily account of how fighting looked like
his book on Verdun, ''The Price of Glory'', is also excellent

just do some research dudes, german planes were dropping leaflets calling for peace in July 1940.

1) Didn't kill any Jews
2) Was too kind to the Anglos, should have killed them all.
3) Didn't invade the Soviets quickly enough.

You fucking idiotic Chilean bastard. Stop posting here. You have no idea what you're even typing.

he wasn't forced into it, he chose to invade Poland
it was ridiculous to think UK and France will sit that one out after what happened to Czechoslovakia
as I said, he was a gambler
sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but the house always wins in the end

What is this no he didn't business. He sent 13 offers of peace beginning from two days into the invasion of Poland all the way up to just before Operation Barbarossa.
>Britain would have accepted an armistice
Most of the British Cabinet wanted to. Churchill insisted that they hold out until America was in the war. He wouldn't take even a negotiated settlement. It was either the complete destruction of Germany or Britain for him.
That's not true. The actions of the US while mostly unknown even on Sup Forums prior to their entry in the war were extremely aggressive, deceitful, often times illegal and in any other context would have been enough reason for Germany to declare war on them with good justification. If you want I'll list a few of them for you.

It worked wonders though, people were so demoralized they are still depressed to this day by it. All you see in the media and movies about the period was depressing rationing movies about people dying for no reason. It demoralized the entire country.

1. Declaring war on Russia
2. After doing so, people in occupied lands view them as invaders, rather than liberators of communism, the Nazies should have been kinder to the population
3. Allying with Japan was probably the stupidest thing

Ok my Lad. Can i read it at work, too? (With many pauses/interruptions) or do i have to be ''there''?

1) Attacked the Soviet Union before securing victory
2) Didn't bring coats to the Soviet Union.
3)He didn't really gas the Jews.

He was actually a great painter

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>Allowing the Brits to retreat and rearm
>Aiding Italy in Greece
>Not having a son

I wonder how would the french heavy tanks have performed later in the war? Also, do you know if it was possible for ww2 to turn into trench warfare, as it happens surprisingly often in my hoi4 campaigns?

>invaded the soviet union
>ally japan
>japan declares war on america
>"i will be cool friend and declare war on america too"

I bet that manchild took a photo of the building in his hand and just tried recreating it. This thing has no soul.

Too be fair though, his gamble rested on things he thought he had under control that didn't pan out. One being von Ribbentrop misinterpreting a conversation with the French thinking they had recognized Eastern Europe as Germany's sphere of influence and two: Having a little too much faith in Stalin who was supposed to attack simultaneously to avoid a declaration of war by the Western allies. How unfortunate.

Where is destitute Hitler going to get a camera from in those days?

Oh, that’s true. Although I would assert that he definetely had a good reason to retake areas, as millions of ethnic germans had been left outside germany post ww1. Furthermore I wonder what would the soviets have done then...

that sounds very rasonable , but i guess it was more of a gamble then , no one knows if he would or not

This "no he didn't" business is basic facts that don't stand to reality of the period. Britain was suffering from Defeatism. Only thing you see in the movies and pop culture from the period is about how depressed everyone was and that basically without the US britain was cooked. There's a reason why guys like Nolan make movies like Dunkirk - there were no great stories to tell from the period, it was loss after loss. The entire population was demoralized. I don't know where you got your facts from that he sent peace offers, but I don't buy that a country that was barely holding itself together because there was a water gap between it and the enemy (and Hitler didn't really want them that badly) would not have jumped at the chance to sue for peace.

Oh well there you go, Churchill was stubborn then, and not a good commander.

He invaded Poland ONLY because he had just made the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that excluded for a while the possibility of a two front war.

Thus he was genuinely surprise when the Allies declared war, and there was little support for the war in France and Britain, which is one the cause of the low morale of allied troops during the Battle of France.

Must have stole it just like he stole the German government. Fucking gypsy.