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Dominic Gomez
I have a potentially very stressful day tomorrow Sup Forums. Please pray everything goes according to plan and there are no issues.
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Josiah Barnes
Fuck off, memeflaggot.
Brandon Peterson
Yea fuck off christs impalers
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Tyler Lopez
Even Pope Francis is misquoted on immigration. He's said only allow immigrants where they will integrate. For example, in his World Migrant Day message he opened with "Welcoming, protecting, promoting and integrating migrants and refugees”
Wyatt Carter
>Welcoming, protecting, promoting and integrating migrants and refugees
>Christians think this is a good thing
Oliver Williams
>For example, in his World Migrant Day message he opened with "Welcoming, protecting, promoting and integrating migrants and refugees”
>implying that is a good thing
Ryder Adams
If someone is willing to live by the law then they should be welcome by all means
But people throw a fit when we want to get rid of the lawbreakers
Zachary Torres
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Kevin Cox
Kayden Gomez
Awww got sucked in by a shill
I need to soend more time in /cg/
Zachary Gray
>If someone is willing to live by the law then they should be welcome by all means
>This is what Christcucks actually believe
Nicholas Roberts
Muslims believe that Jesus is not the Son of God:
>People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. (Qur'an, sura 4 "An-Nisa", ayat 171)
The DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH, Lumen Gentium, teaches as a matter of dogma that Christians and Muslims worship the same God:
>But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. (vatican.va
No way to deny it unless you resort to semantic perversions and handwaving rationalizations.
This is heresy:
>No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:23)
Since heresy is proclaimed dogmatically, this makes the Roman Catholic Church internally inconsistent and falsifies all claims of it being the one true church.
Therefore, Roman Catholicism is a false religion.
QED
Adrian Sanders
If it was always like this then you would be right. Pretty much all of these 'migrants' and 'refugees' don't want to integrate, however and most of these 'migrants' and 'refugees' are uneducated. Look at what happened to Britain for example.
Carter Edwards
I'm aware. And, in their case, they should go. But, as far as general immigration law, stripped of any technicalities or cercumstanss, should boil down to: If you want to intergrate and live by our laws, welcome. If not, go away or face the punishment of the law.
Sadly, laws are not enforced the same, with illegals and migrants getting preferencial treatment in most western courts. Man has made a mockery of justice
Carter Reed
>this makes the Roman Catholic Church internally inconsistent and falsifies all claims of it being the one true church.
No it makes Muslims heretical, which is their official status anyway.
Connor Jones
Very true, user
The sooner people just wake up to the (((elite))) control and stand against them, the happier I'll feel
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Chase Gonzalez
>should boil down to: If you want to intergrate and live by our laws, welcome
Why? Why do you believe people should just be able to wander into your country? You are insane. Even if they themselves will obey the law, their offspring might not.
Colton Gomez
>No it makes Muslims heretical, which is their official status anyway.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches as a matter of dogma that they worship the same God as Muslims, even though Muslims reject that Jesus is the Son of God and The Bible unequivocally states that those who deny God the Son do not have the God the Father.
Connor Edwards
>Civic cucks think they are redpilled
Hunter Phillips
Also be careful, it should not be other races in our countries. It should be a white ethnostate as other races can't integrate into a white society
Angel Brown
I understand that. What you are misunderstanding is what is meant by
> not have the God the Father
It's already clear they reject Jesus and the trinity. So of course the do not have the father. Does this mean they are not referring to the same God as we? No. They are simply incorrect about his nature.
Jordan Gray
>Implying I'm civic
Colton Russell
Bump for the lord
Kevin Hughes
bump
Ryan Parker
Dominic Jackson
>posting the Sup Forums flag as this in place of a Swastika
Time to stop there, lad.
Gabriel Thomas
Chase Morgan
>no matter how cucked and (((co-opted))) it is, everyone who criticizes the church and tries to redpill people that it's not our "greatest ally" is a shill and a "demon worshipper"
And jews hate christianity, they hate Islam, they hate all other religions. They hate "the goyim". But since christianity reformed their jewish traditions, they HAVE to reject it or else they wouldn't be jews.
Yids could care less if some negro builds a singing church in Africa to go "ooga booga hallelujah" - because they hate and want to replace WHITE PEOPLE. If anything, they think it's funny that such monkeys are following a version of "judaism for the goyim"...
Jacob Campbell
Lincoln Russell
>let's people into the country as long as they integrate
>not civic nationalism
Dylan Reyes
Isaiah Perry
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Anthony Jackson
Baptist here, sup christbros want to dance to some gospel and christian rock with me?
Aaron Long
Eli Smith
>>let's people into the country as long as they integrate
>Implying other races can really integrate
You're giving too much credit, desu
Nicholas Ross
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Oliver Phillips
>backpedaling this hard
Juan Nguyen
Is the Vatican satanic or questionable in anyway or is that just butt-hurt protestant propaganda.
Gavin Clark
Clergy are human and therefore imperfect. Currently full of modernists heretics, but it's still The Church (TM) and scandal is nothing new for it. It will survive by the ancient regimes placed there by better men than we have now, as it has in the past.
Pro-tip for determining when something is anti-cat propaganda: Does it pertain to official dogma, or is it some shithead in robes being a heretic? The latter happens frequently, which is unfortunate.
Jose Johnson
Dominic Lewis
>3/11/2018
>the day a leaf decided to make a good post
Colton Bennett
>teaches as a matter of dogma
You obviously don't know what "dogma" means.
It is by no means necessary for salvation to believe that Muslims worship the same God as Christians.
Bentley Martin
>So of course the do not have the father.
>Does this mean they are not referring to the same God as we? No.
The cognitive dissonance in your post is astounding. You are not a reasonable person, so I can't convince you. But for everyone else considering Roman Catholicism, take note.
Jonathan Ross
Easton Williams
What is the difference between a heretical view of God and a full on rejection of God?
But any way, you are wrong that the statement on Muslims is 'dogma'. It is not.
Aiden Brown
Mason Martin
>You obviously don't know what "dogma" means.
It's literally taught in the DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH. I guess your point is valid if words have no meaning.
Camden Nelson
>unable to understand what is being referenced by different words
You must be retarded. We know they are non-trinitarians. Yet in their writings they speak of a one true God who is the source of all Goodness. This is considerable evidence they are talking about the same God, although their conception is incorrect.
Angel Ross
>What is the difference between a heretical view of God and a full on rejection of God?
Read this again:
>No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:23)
Julian Carter
And every word of Lumen Gentisum is not dogma just like every word of Harry Potter is not a magical spell. There are some dogmas stated, but they are not all dogma.
You are out of your element, Donny.
Blake Scott
Satan is a meme. Even if you unironically "worship" satan, you're worshiping a fantasy, or an idea.
Kayden Hill
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Colton Sullivan
>No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:23)
Brandon Sanchez
Zachary Bailey
So you deny the existence of heretics?
We differentiate between heretics and apostates for a reason.
Daniel Bailey
No one denies that. What we deny is your unbelievably bizarre reading of it.
Lucas Hill
Is this another episode of Muslims too dumb to understand something as simple as the trinity?
At least protestants just pretend to be retarded..
Bentley Smith
>And every word of Lumen Gentisum is not dogma just like every word of Harry Potter is not a magical spell. There are some dogmas stated, but they are not all dogma.
How do you know what is dogma and what is not dogma in a document explicitly marked as dogmatic, produced by an ecumenical council, and promulgated by the Pope without alteration or correction? It seems like there is no actual teaching authority within the Roman Catholic Church if you, independently of the authoritative teaching documents of the Magisterium, can just pick and choose, in an ad hoc manner, which are the true teachings and which are not. In any case, you are admitting that the Magisterium, when exercising the charism of infallibility, is not actually infallible, which is precisely the point I'm making.
Eli Russell
>there are bad sheep everywhere goy, so you shouldn't mind all the pedophiles among our leadership and the attrocities throughout history...
No pedophiles in the NSDAP, though...
Purging degeneracy from your ranks is not so hard, you claim to want to do that, yet never do...
Camden Scott
>the straightforward and reasonable reading
>unbelievably bizarre
Ok, Satan.
John Johnson
>so you shouldn't mind all the pedophiles among our leadership and the attrocities throughout history...
This is not what I said. Rather I separate the official teachings, which are The Way, from the fallen men. Of course, one should be outraged by these scandals, but they are not terminal, nor do they invalidate the teachings.
Zachary Perry
>Is this another episode of Muslims too dumb to understand something as simple as the trinity?
Nope. This is an episode of Roman Catholics being too retarded not to contradict themselves in a dogmatic document.
Lucas Ortiz
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hmmm
Elijah Reed
It is. You make a leap by assuming denial of the Father entails absolute disbelief in the existence of God rather than a repudiation of his nature. It is the latter.
Jose Reyes
>Is this another episode of Muslims too dumb to understand something as simple as the trinity?
Could you explain the trinity to me?
Justin Perry
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Jaxon Long
Then since you understand the trinity, I assume you're just pretending to be retarded.
Charles Howard
>So you deny the existence of heretics?
James Morales
One God, three persons.
Dylan Powell
If god is infinite and omnipresent and unknowable, the entire "son" storyline is just a way to draw parallels to humanity to support the illusion that we could know him to any degree. Of course, being fictional anyway, we call the son thing a story twist.
Benjamin White
>A civic nation consists of all those who subscribe to its political creed regardless of ethnicity or race, color, religion, gender, language
>regardless of ethnicity or race, color, religion religion, gender, language
>regardless of ethnicity or race
>Ethnicity or race
dropped, I do not believe in different races going together
Blake Young
That doesn't make sense tho
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Carson James
I'm taught:
God
Jesus
The Holy Spirit
What about you?
Julian Watson
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Cameron Evans
No. Try pornhub or xhamster. Both are better websites than that one you mentioned.
Angel Perry
No, you fuck off
Caleb Myers
Personally, user, even though you are annoying me right now, I agree, it does not make sense.
Levi Hughes
why so spiteful?
Landon Morales
You need to work on your reading comprehension. Once again:
>No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:23)
This is saying:
>If you DENY the Son, then you DO NOT HAVE the Father.
Whatever it is that Muslims (who deny the Son) HAVE, it IS NOT the Father (i.e. it may be one of the Baals that they worship, but it is certainly not the God of Jesus Christ).
Evan Carter
>If someone is willing to live by the law then they should be welcome by all means
>dropped, I do not believe in different races going together
Then why did you agree with that user?
>Personally, user, even though you are annoying me right now
R-Rude
Easton King
Holy shit user. You can keep repeating yourself but we already know the concept of God in Christianity is incommensurable with that in Islam. The fault lay in believing then they worship something different rather than simply being incorrect about what it is they worship.
Luis Bennett
So Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit are just forms of God than can not exist at the same time since God can always be only one of them?
Xavier Cox
The Church never said every word of Lumen Gentsium is dogma...
>In any case, you are admitting that the Magisterium, when exercising the charism of infallibility
They weren't.
Brody Thomas
Why can't they exist at the same time?
Andrew Cruz
If anyone with a false notion of God's nature is an apostate then there is no such thing as a heretic.
Chase James
>God can always be only one of them
No, Jesus speaks to God often.
John Rogers
>we already know the concept of God in Christianity is incommensurable with that in Islam
And yet the Roman Catholic Church teaches as a matter of dogma that:
>the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind
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