How did this garbage series ever take off? It's the most uninspired rip off piece of shit that's been put into serialization this decade.
It's literally the exact same garbage were the author relies on you being stupid enough to view the main character as the underdog even though there's really no reason that he should ever fail.
Deku became the greatest hero because he had the greatest quirk. Naruto became the hokage because he had the strongest entity inside him. How the fuck is that suppose to be inspirational to anyone in the slightest?
What are you talking about? Nobody looks at anime to be inspired, they looks at anime for booby
Isaac Miller
It's literally naruto kids bop version.
They'll straight rip scenes from naruto and babify it or remove any sense of depth or build up.
Ayden Long
The same way every other battle shounen in the last twenty+ years did. The same way WSJ remains the best-selling magazine. The same way DBS manages to have a dozen+ threads up right now. Because a large portion of anime/manga "fans" are casual faggots who just want to see random fights and rehashes of the same bland shit they liked as kids.
Hunter James
Most of the "heroes" were ok, and their concept very creative and fun to watch. The only thing I can agree about being complete garbage and when the author jumped the shark was Stain's motives for doing what he does, and that ridiculous reason for an edgefest asshole like Bakugo to be considered a hero, when he's clearly a villain. Those two things are simply terrible, terrible writing
Easton Morales
Defense force reporting.
example? This is not entirely wrong. Im not sure I understand why you think Bakugo is a poorly written character. He is prideful, but still wants to be a hero.
Thomas Bennett
(You)
Brandon Long
I have my gripes with the writing in many areas, but its still enjoyable
Jonathan Taylor
It all can point to the idea of "I watched DBZ when I was little and all I wana watch now are animes of people beating the living shit out of each other." Its not a bad show all in all, but its to generic and has been done before.
Xavier Price
The mangaka doesn't know how to proper write a story
Nolan Morales
>Let's go lightning fast and skip showing you important stuff, instead just having a few word bubbles on a black page >Now I'll all of a sudden slow the fuck down during a boring arc This guy needs to learn pacing
Xavier Barnes
You don't know how to proper write a sentence. This is what happens when you read weekly scans idiot.
Joshua Perez
I agree with this. Kimetsu no Yaiba might have shitty art but it's more interesting than this garbage.
Adrian Gray
Always fun to see Sup Forums act contrarian once something get popular and then struggle to actually make an argument so they go back to "its generic" stock arguments like anything this board likes isn't generic garbage.
Oliver Stewart
>so they go back to "its generic" stock arguments like anything this board likes isn't generic garbage. And it's funny how you just did that yourself
Adrian Thomas
You are talking to a board that has literal, unironic Black Clover and Boruto threads. Naruto, One Piece and Bleach threads are understandable because its possible the people participating in them started reading those when they were 12, but you are arguing taste against a board full of grown-ass adults who knowingly chose to start reading and discussing children's' series.
Camden King
Did you type this up at a starbucks? Not watching for allmight.
Colton Scott
It's pretty amazing i like it more than most other shounen anime. Are you sure you're not just being a contrarian?
Matthew Rivera
I agree that all those anime you listed are shit, so I hate to break it to you but all anime is for children.
Carter Morgan
If I like original hot for my wings, I don't get reprimanded by my friends for ordering original hot the next time I go
Xavier Lee
Yuri when?
Grayson Carter
It's just a fun superhero book, it's not the best written by any means by why do you find it so offensive that people like it?
And over to your left you'll see the Jaded Contrarian critic.
This little scrapper hasn't understood the purpose of Catharsis yet, and also wants to utilize rudimentary awareness of story tropes by crying havock any time he recognizes them being used in media.
Because as we all know, the best way to write an engaging story is to subvert cliche tropes by doing the exact opposite without having an important reason to.
Thomas Watson
>My first impression of a person overwhelmingly dictates my opinion of them now. You might actually need to watch more shounen anime. The lessons don't seem to be sinking in.
Aiden Gonzalez
Is the hxh pic supposed to be ironic? Because that manga proves subverting cliches is better than cliche shit
Xavier Howard
If subverting a trope is the best way to tell the story, then by all means do so. But if you demand a trope be subverted for the vague reason of making the story better, you'll just end up with garbage.
You're seeing problems that aren't there so you can be the one to fix them.
Mason Nelson
Pretty boring desu imo family.
I was recommended mob psycho after trying this and never looked back.
Noah Jones
Just like a real american cape comic.
Nathaniel Price
>the best way to write an engaging story is to subvert cliche tropes by doing the exact opposite Please look to your right to see a strawman in its natural habitat.
Benjamin Torres
how do you complain about bnha and not black clover
Wyatt Perez
because its marketed towards kids and to kids all that stuff is new to them
Jordan Robinson
Uh huh. Now the next step is to specify where I'm wrong by elaborating how exactly the OP's opinion is different from the Strawman of him I presented.
How does writing for the sole purpose of making as different from everything else as possible produce anything other than a work void of meaning and likely still full of tropes the author didn't notice.
Liam Wilson
I fail to see your point
Robert Foster
> the next step is to specify where I'm wrong by elaborating how exactly the OP's opinion is different from the Strawman of him I presented All he did was call BnHA a ripoff and "the exact same garbage," and somehow from that you jumped to "he wants it to subvert tropes by doing the exact opposite." That is a massive strawman, you're putting things in his mouth that he never even remotely implied.
Jose Walker
Honestly, I've always felt they should have kept Deku quirkless. Have him become the Batman of the setting, using his mind and gadgets and shit instead of superpowers to become a Hero against all odds. He'd then still be the real underdog of the story, instead of being basically untrained Superman.
Henry Brooks
too much to handle
Chase Lopez
only one of them is unironically considered good by the masses
Jackson Watson
Fine, I'll bite: rip off of what?
Cameron Hall
This really. Even the argument that liking it makes you casual holds no ground. For me, it's just one of many, many other things I follow and I happen to like it quite a bit.
You can't take that information and determine a thing about my taste. People like that have been here forever though and are never going away so I get the pointlessness of my tangent, it's just frustrating.
Anthony Price
Naruto, Dragon Ball, One Punch Man, and Kinnikuman when it was a superhero parody rather than a wrestling parody.
Carter Smith
All OP focuses on is what makes Hero Academia similar to other battle shounen, and then exaggerates the audacity of it having parallels to Naruto. And his topic specifically is about the quality of the shows audience. He shows here that any argument about how and why Hero Academia might stand out or differ from other shounen in comparable ways is invalid and not up for debate. He made the topic about the people who watch the anime. So I replied with a blanket statement of my view of him.
David Miller
>not expecting sky high that was mistake number 1
Aiden Powell
Oh hey it's you again, how've you been?
Grayson Brooks
>then exaggerates the audacity of it having parallels to Naruto That wasn't even a criticism of it for being cliche, that was highlighting a (claimed) flaw that he saw in both of them. That has nothing to do with what he thinks stories should do regarding cliches / originality.
>So I replied with a blanket statement of my view of him. And that view, as I've just said, is a strawman that is not actually supported by anything he (or really anyone else ITT) have said. You're attacking an argument that wasn't made.
David Flores
You're telling us that this show rips off the fucking SHONEN GENRE itself? Are you retarded or what?
Kevin Gutierrez
He's attacking an argument that's made frequently enough that I at least appreciated his input.
Joshua Long
>One Punch man Not every manga with a superhero theme a ripoff of OPM faggot
Dominic Mitchell
I think the selling point of this trolling isn't the repeated threads. It's the bad arguments. It's like they don't even try and that's the frustrating thing. Maybe that's the real trolling.
Sebastian Allen
The author crammed so many uninteresting and unremarkable characters so fast he killed his manga.
Owen Davis
Deku and Naruto weren't very popular in their respective series. Something about shounen tradition to make the MC so fucking bland so the more interesting side characters get to shine brighter when they get the spotlight.
Cameron Clark
Yeah, a couple of years ago everyone was literally praising the series as one of the best in this decade. After the popularity of the anime first season they started shitposting and being contrarian faggots.
Eli Peterson
I just enjoy reading it
William Adams
This, also O
Noah Parker
You say that for everything popular
Mason Bell
> a couple of years ago everyone was literally praising the series as one of the best in this decade >everyone No.
Jaxon Gomez
Shonen is a demographic not a genre, you retard.
Kevin Parker
>inspired user...I....
Henry Butler
but they are a rip off of perman
Brody Evans
Yes we always had few contrarian faggots even then
Leo Price
>Shonen >Genre
Next you'll tell me about the Young Adults Genre or the Geriatric Genre or the Children's Genre.
Retard.
Landon Myers
>everyone who dislikes a series is contrarian
David Sanders
How was what he highlighted a flaw, though? All he did was point them out and repeatedly say it's the same overused Garbage. We're left to assume what makes them flawed is that they are overused.
Complaining that something is bad for no reason other than it is overused more than warrants my Strawman of him. If anything, my mockery of him was more flattering because I portrayed him as at least presenting a solution and not just attacking readers and writers for petty reasons.
If there's anything else you want me to address, let me know.
Jason Long
When it first aired,I dropped it at ep 1. Then I saw ep 2 when 2nd season aired and really liked it. I guess its not the underdog story but the idealistic heroism the show presented that attracted me.
Landon Stewart
>How was what he highlighted a flaw, though? I said "(claimed)" flaw, user. I'm not arguing that it is or isn't. The obvious implication was that having someone with super strong powers presented as an "underdog" is contradictory / ineffective. Again, I'm not interested in arguing whether he's right, but that was clearly what he was trying to say, not "making a strong guy the underdog is bad because it's cliche." >Complaining that something is bad for no reason other than it is overused more than warrants my Strawman of him. >more than warrants my Strawman of him >if someone says something stupid, then misconstruing his position becomes a valid argument Alright, I give up, you clearly either don't get it or just don't give a shit.
Carson Smith
If there are good arguments instead of buzzwords or sentences like 'ripoff of X,Y,Z....','Why does everyone like it','So generic',etc.. which can be thrown at anything(Dragon Ball Z is a ripoff of Fist of the North Star which is a ripoff of Chinese Wuxia which is a ripoff Western fantasy blah blah blah and they are so generic.Bad guy comes,gets defeated by good guy) then its OK Even plain 'not my thing' as an argument is okay(But then there's no point in the post then) A contrarian is a faggot who dislikes it jjust because he its popular or gaining momentum.
Caleb Ward
But Deku is'nt presented as an underdog.Maybe in the first episode when he had no powers but later on its established that even when not in control of his full power he's still the third strongest in his class. The only guy who's maybe shown as an underdog is maybe Grape Juice.
Luis Edwards
You know I never got the impression that he was supposed to be an underdog either. All of his big moments simply represent growth in his ability to handle his power.
Ayden Wright
What many YA authors don't get is that people will empathize even with a protagonist who isn't Blandy McSelfinsert #7426495. That's the whole point of first-person storytelling. So we can enjoy the protagonist winning at life, even if he's not (what authors consider) a carbon copy of the reader. One guy and -only- one guy being badass is still more uplifting than, say, the possibility of no-one at all being badass. Stories don't have to pander, or be 'realistic', to be fun. And a hero is defined more by his morals than his power level, even if those morals will never had to include courage because he's so tough.
Adam Baker
>But Deku is'nt presented as an underdog
He's an underdog against the people he fights against, like Todoroki and Bakugo.
Brandon Young
He's saves both of them. He saves Todoroki and he's attempting to save Bakugo while also trying to beat him. It's actually quite the complicated relationships there.
Adrian Ortiz
>bakugofags
Benjamin Sullivan
He loses to both of them regardless (save for that time he won in the test involving Bakugo), hence him being an underdog. The saving part is irrelevant.
Logan Harris
Yes. If someone says something stupid, misconstruing him is not only valid, but expected. If they don't want to spend a 12 post reply chain arguing with someone, then they shouldn't bury their argument in emotional bullshit.
As for Selling those anime's as Underdog stories, Naruto is pretty infamous for being a bait and switch, OP. When Naruto Started out, they sold it as an Orphaned nobody with a dangerous cursed power, and the only reason he was achieving his dream was perseverance. Then they made Naruto's dad the 4th Hokage, and they made his mom from some super famous Ninja clan. and that he was Ninja jesus who was destined from birth to save people. It was a huge shift in tone and frustrated a lot of readers.
Dylan Johnson
I'd say it's the losing part that's irrelevant. They're working towards becoming heroes. Which he's excelling at. While Bakugo and Todoroki failed the provisional license exam. Although Bakugo deserved it more than Todoroki.
Noah Gutierrez
I mean if Naruto could get popular with bad writting, everyone important being an emo, asspulls everywhere I don't see how it surprises you to se Boku No Hero getting popularity.
Liam Collins
>He's an underdog against the people he fights against, like Todoroki and Bakugo. Nope.If anything even Bakugo is shown more of as an underdog than Deku.He was the big shot in his small town and school and he came to a prestigious academy to find out that there are many who can overwhelm him. After the first fight against Deku he was shitting in his pants when he realised Deku would have BTFO him if he was'nt holding back.
Jason Rodriguez
That picture is a good example. That kid with the blue hair, Star. The first time you see him, he's trying to murder a little girl for the sake of fame and glory. How is that different from Bakugo?
Sebastian Roberts
He's a bit more fun character than Bakugo. He doesn't take himself seriously and isn't angry all the time, he's just so full of himself that it turns right back at itself and becomes hilarious. He's kind of a meme.
Robert Adams
Why does this anime gets like 3 seasons in a row and animes like Mob Psycho 100 don't? when clearly they're also popular..
Nolan Gray
>Naruto You forgot the part where they keep showing that scene between young Sasuke and Naruto touching pinkies that made no sense considering how they were introduced in the begining of the series.
Naruto started interesting and then turned into a "who is the biggest mary sue" contest.
Brandon Powell
Difference is that bakugo remained asshole with chip on his shoulder because all world stopped to suck him.
Carson Lopez
*trying to murder a witch, beings defined as the ultimate evil and archenemies of the academy
and then he spares her as soon as she sees her BECAUSE she is a little girl
Thomas Sanders
>If anything even Bakugo is shown more of as an underdog than Deku >Wins tournament >Deku imitates him to make use of Full Cowl >Deku is holding back because he's going to BTFO himself if he doesn't
Not really convinced.
Leo Nelson
Honestly I think OPM and Mob Psycho are a much bigger cancer than this is
It’s inoffensive shonen battle manga. There are far worse manga to be upset about. Remember this is aimed at 8-14 year olds, it’s like being angry that Teletubbies exist “they’re so fat and gay this makes tv look so shit and childish!”
Zachary Cook
How are any of these cancer? Is it because you don't like their fanbases?
Camden Hall
Because one has meme animation that takes ages to complete while the other is more sparing and uses the usual low budget motion tricks to convey movement
Caleb Morales
Nigger, if there were a 24/7 general for Teletubbies, I would stay far the fuck away from that board forever.
Michael Lopez
Deconstructions are the lamest shit
Making shonen shit then pretending you are laughing at it ironically is so ducking gay
Postmodernism was a mistake and should be over already
Cooper Campbell
Yeah I thought the same. It just feels like Naruto over again.
Elijah Rogers
>wins tournamant Because Todoroki did'nt consider him worthy enough to fight at his full power >Deku imitates him to make use of Full Cowl Thats learning from others >Deku is holding back because he's going to BTFO himself if he doesn't Still,if the punch had connected it could have possibly even kill him and Deku still used it regardless
Asher Gray
This
Grayson Stewart
Just the new Naruto with an American superhero flavor that catches the interest of the kids/young teens. We have one every decade.
Power creep will set in, as much as the fanbase denies it, and turn to a power level wank fest.