Does he have the point?

Is white nationalism a meme ideology that is actively hurting many of its own desired political ideas

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"His parents are Jewish and raised him in the faith"

>inallfields

The more the left pushes, the more white nationalism will arise. It's true that white culture won't create widespread nationalism on its own, but you can certainly thank cultural Marxism for the rise in race realism.

Greenwald- faggot jew that started the intercept, which is just like the nyt except that it's even more hostile toward whites.

GRÜNWALD DU SAUJUD!!!!!

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The idea is dead.

I don't see how any far right movement can succeed with so many non-whites and women voting.

The liberals have won.

STOP STANDING UP FOR YOUR OWN RACE

I don't see how a white movement can succeed, when we can't even agree on what white fucking is.

Why do you think Spencer gets so much press? Outside of Sup Forums the supremacists movement is tiny without chance of success. They're being pushed into the spotlight to smear the rebirth of conservatism in the western world.

He has no statistical evidence to support his statement regarding "most white people." it sounds like a complete guess based on hope. The problem with his guess is that he doesn't realize most people, regardless of race, are very subconsciously (or consciously) racist

>voting based on skin color and nose type rather than on your own interests

If they're trying to smear the alt-right spencer is the worst choice. He's mild-mannered and likable.

No he's been a faggot in Brazil too long. He doesnt know fuck all about white people. White people go with what works

Easy look at any poll about racist beliefs or beliefs surrounding dreamers and you'll see most white people do not support alt-right beliefs

>White people go with what works

Which is why they aren't ethnonationalists.

Are you serious? Greenwald too? ARE THEY EVERYWHERE

Those things come packaged together.

the least likeable person of this millennium so far is probably richie spencer

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white = European
simple

It's a good thing White Nationalism isn't an offensive postion to hold, but rather a defensive one that ensures a future for whites if their own countries should fail them like they are now you treacherous cretin.
Effectively.
Whites self-segregate naturally and every race displays in-group preference, now imagine people's ability to self-segregate and practice in-group preference is taken from them?
The only solution is a radical one, but we have the grain of reality and nature to move with, they don't.

any smart enemy would not stop you from making a mistake so either they're dumb or their afraid, either way I'm not taking their advice

>taking advice from european style socialists
always do the opposite of what they say

Yes why do you think its all supported by the establishmen? Stormfront is a front for fbi, bushes, soros, etc.

My interests are of those who are genetically similar to me.
Twin studies places the heritability of Political Beliefs at .4. This means that people have a proclivity to certain beliefs even before environment is considered. Asians, Africans, Native Americans, and South Americans have all lived under European ideals their whole lives, and yet they continue to vote for the de facto Socialist party in the US, the Democrat party.
Why don't these people instead vote for European ideals(I say this because these things have never manifested themselves outside of European Countries), like individualism and small government, when they grew up in societies where that is the norm?
Surely environmental reinforcement should be all it takes when everyone is a Blank Slate like Tabula Rasa suggests.

Or is it perhaps that grouping people based on phenotypes is a valid way to demonstrate behavioral and genetic differences?

Ethnic war is inevitable
Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial
History determines the future
Humans are tribal

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he's a kike. fuck kikes

If richard spencer is too toxic a spokesman the alt-right is doomed. Everyone else is less likable than him

You will see

So Turks are white, but siberians aren't?
Wow I learn something new everyday

>ethnic war is inevitable
Brits are doomed.

I have.

>nationalism hurts only white people and not any other races especially not jews.

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>The American Left once again fails to realise there is a world outside of their little bubble
these people have no idea what is coming

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...and they say germans don't have humor.
heartily kek'd germanon. have a (you).

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He's an awkward, whiny, lispy beta-male who obviously knows how much he's damaging the conservative movement by allowing the media to associate him with it.

Only asspie retards think that idiot is likable.

He's basically right.

It'd be MORE than enough to just say
>Yeah I'm white
>It's fine to be white
>You can be proud of being white without being a "Nazi"
>I'm not against immigration. I'm against infinite immigration of bad people
>Culture is real
>Different cultures are different for a reason

But adding in this serious element of
>Oh yea and I only want white people in my country
>How we get that way again? Dunno

That's a bridge way too fucking far.
The first batch of attributes is the way that 99% of all people were until about 20 years ago.
A wide majority of people feel that way too.
You can probably still get a majority of black and brown people who are like "Yeah white people can be proud of who they are without being 'Nazi'." But throw in the added white nationalist element and literally everyone hates you except MAYBE 50% of whites.

Even if your secret agenda was white nationalism, pushing that now would be a mistake.

White nationalism actually provokes more people against whites in general. It even provokes more whites against fellow whites.

"White pride" or lack of a better term would be feasible and sensible. White nationalism is unfeasible.

Do you think the United States will last forever?
The, unlike any other empire, it will endure into a multicultural utopia you seem to think is possible?

Consider that in the next 300 years it will fail, accelerated by ethnic diversity.
Then what?
What binds the whole of the former United States citizens together?
It's not creed or religion, nor race or ethnicity.
Nothing, nothing binds everyone in the US together so they will break away and form groups by race. Wars will be fought for territory and power in the name of survival.

That's a much more realistic prediction and we have historical precedence to call upon for evidence of it.

It will be successful eventually, because right wing people have lots of kids, while Liberals don't have kids at all. spics and niggers are only out-breeding liberals.

>Don't try too hard to defend your interests or you will lose
This is a standard Jewish hedging rhetoric.

Is this even a real tweet? I can't find it.

Here's the thing most other major alt-righters are not likable.

Mike enoch is a throaty jew sounding ass who loses his temper everytime someone asks him a question.

Andrew Anglin is a moron who somehow lost a debate to sargon.

Andy warski is autistic and JF is a pedophile.

Most of the alternatives to spencer are much worse than he is.

Libtards freak out about Neo-Nazis and the KKK all the time but they are incredibly small.
>The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[161] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States
>According to a 1999 ADL report, the KKK's estimated size then was "No more than a few thousand, organized into slightly more than 100 units
The main problem is that liberals are equating anyone who votes Trump as a Neo-Nazi or KKK member and anyone who is sick of the anti-white garbage from the media and liberals is also a white supremacist to them. I have family members who have never said anything racist ever in their life being called white supremacists in the past few years by deranged leftists just for having moderate political views. After WW2 Antifa was attacking regular people left and right in Germany and everyone got so sick of those retarded Commies that called everyone a fascist and attacked them that they had to become fascists just to deal with those absolute retards. The same thing is going on now. You can only bully and try to shame white people for so long until they wake up and fight back. Either liberals need to wake up and quit being retarded calling everyone with different views a white supremacist or they will get slaughtered when enough people say enough is enough.

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Exactly.
He had a Recent appearance and less than 20 people showed up.
There were more of his entourage than attendees.
Hell, there were more press people than actual attendees.

The media loves to put cameras on him because his spergish antics push people away from the right.

He is the lefts biggest weapon in fighting deportations and getting the open borders nation they desire.

"All white people are racist and we must stop them and take their power away"

"Not enough white people are racist for White Nationalists to succeed"

It's unfortunate, but he's entirely right. The overwhelming majority of white people consider white nationalism disgusting. These kind of views will never enter the mainstream and the white ethnostate will remain a pipe dream.

There's nothing offensive about it. If they don't want part of it, I'll still be here 50 years from now advocating. Their children will probably be easier to convert than they are.

I don't give a shit about any of that, I like those people anyways.

Another problem i usually see is that race politics really only works when there are other races. Even if whites got an ethnostate it would probably end in one of two ways. With no more whites the one uniting principle would cease to matter and the ethnostate would end up failing.

Or the worse possibility is that the whites start purity spiraling about not being white enough and then they just start attacking each other and destroying the state.

Go back to the 1940's and you'll find polls suggesting that white Americans, who were 90% of the population, wanted nothing to do with African Americans when asked about integration.

That's only 80 years ago, a drop in the bucket as time goes. There was a new element added to America during that period of time. Postmodern, Marxist thinkers had taken the Academies by storm.
Propoganda is extremely effective, it's why white Americans are okay with giving up their country and allowing it to transform, but the cracks in idea begin to show through when this faux egalitarian propaganda is challenged and stops being applied. People's natural in-group tendencies come out.

>white nationalism will just ruin race relations for normies
Good. Hope every liberal gets ventilated by a blue gum nigger. They deserve it for fucking over the working class.

"I like "
>Good, acceptable, normal.
"Let's accomplish "
>That's a bridge way too fucking far.
This is why centrists are irrelevant. Go back to sitting on the sidelines while other people get things done.

>feasible immigration return

What did he mean by this?

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All my ancestors were Border Reivers.
That means they hated both England and Scotland.
They were extremely violent clans who existed up until the 17th century.

Border law meant you had six days to gain bloody vengeance when you had been wronged without legal consequences.
I have these extremly violent, murderous genes in me and it has saved my live many times when I lived in London.

Tooth sharpening does not make you crazy.

>Consider that in the next 300 years it will fail, accelerated by ethnic diversity.

It probably will.

>What binds the whole of the former United States citizens together? It's not creed or religion, nor race or ethnicity.

True to an extant

>Nothing, nothing binds everyone in the US together so they will break away and form groups by race.

Lol. Not really. The thing is people care about ideology more than race. A religious conservative white would rather associate with non-white evangelicals than with white sjw liberals.

A purity spiral didn't exist in America at any point prior to 1965 when it was majority white.
It won't happen in the future ethnostate.

White anything is unfeasible thanks to shitlib white cowards. Hopefully they are all killed by their pets.

They're all awful and the entire movement should have never left the internet.
They broke the cardinal rule of never revealing their power levels.
Now they all infight on YouTube "blood sports" while the left is mobilizing.
We won the White House, but if immigration isn't dealt with, then we lose the war.
I'm not even alt-right and I know that the country can't withstand a demographic shift. The US will Balkanize or even worse.

Except the alt-right isn't traditional right wing. The right wing has more children because the right wing is traditionally religious and religious people have more children.

The modern alt-right is secular and non-religious. They aren't going to have many children.

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Good for you, but the point of propaganda isn't to win over people who already believe in it. You need likable people that appeal to swpl whites if you ever hope of winning

he's right, you know.

>These Jews used to laugh about it, they thought it was a joke. They aren't laughing anymore...today they realize the gravity of the situation. It was a struggle especially against the people who...seemed to have omnipotent power in our nation.

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Huh I think this Jewish faggot with the 56%er butt buddy has some important contributions to make to the white nationalist movement.

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>A purity spiral didn't exist in America at any point prior to 1965 when it was majority white.

>forgets about the great awakening religious movements

>forgets about how different white groups would vote along party lines.

>implying just white people support white nationalism

(((identity politics))) is always commie niggers. white people judge based on merit and if you seek to take pride in group accomplishments you did not directly contribute to you are simply a fucking nigger.

We have those, they just aren't alt-right. You need to understand how the ideological pipeline works. You aren't pulled to the right, you're pushed from the left.

Organized and peaceful replacement and extermination of Whites in the West

It's not even group accomplishments. Atleast then you contributed. White nationalists take credit for their ancestors accomplishments. Which is pretty stupid.

>it's all ideology
Who makes up the "conservative" voter base?
Whites.
Who makes up the Democrat's voter base?
Non-whites, effectively.

There are ideas that are inherently tied to one's identity, race is an extremely powerful identifier. Non-whites identify with race more than any other trait whereas whites are much more balanced between race, ideology, and religion.
If an idea doesn't benefit one's in-group, or completely opposes them, they are unlikely to vote for something.

The people going to University to be brainwashed into Neo-Marxists is dwindling, and many who go into STEM careers avoid most of the indoctrination. Higher education is expensive and increasingly offering more useless degrees which damages their credibility.
Their influence on young whites will dry up and the cracks in their lines of thinking will cause the generation after to be in a more natural state.

>White nationalists take credit for their ancestors accomplishments. Which is pretty stupid.
Societies that do this have been successful in the past, so how is it stupid? You physically ARE your ancestors, so why would it not make sense to take credit?

>if you take welfare away from immigrants and make their feels hurt they won't want to leave
what is this Trudeauian nonsense?

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who is this person?

Historical precedence is a great predictor for future success.
Given that Whites and White countries have made 90% of significant historical events, figures, and contributions to the world, it stands to reason that they deserve continued existence as an identifiable group just like any other people.

We have known that pro-whites would be blamed for it taking so long to stop immigration since before we to push the White genocide memeplex, as a way for the cucks to absolve their own guilt in the eyes of the now pissed public.

That this jew now confirms it, just shows that we are winning.

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the biggest problem is there are too many non-whites now. mass deportation is a hard sell and killing them is not going to fly with most and the longer we wait, the more of them there will be.

Doesn't matter, what matter is that those right wing personality traits get pass on on their children, todays centrist would be the new left wingers

btw alt-right IS traditional right, there is nothing traditional about neo-cons, they re liberals.

sort of
At this point nearly every white country has so many shitskins you'd need to pull off a proper genocide to fix it, and there aren't enough people who support that even among the anti-immigration voters. Most people willfully blinded themselves to the scale of what was happening. The best hope for the US is for like-minded people to go north and secede with the regions that are still overwhelmingly of European decent, make a new country with a constitution much more clear and specific than the one we have now.

Ethnonationalism is inevitable. War is most always avoidable

those are one and the same

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When a majority of Whites finally wakes up to how we are being genocided, it's over, because then it's the anti-whites that will be discriminated against.

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that's part of the plan sillybuns
balkanization will lead to new nations, fostering new potential civilizational hotspots
the current west is dying
loss of land will entice a new civilization of whites to stand and reclaim land for whites considering that race realism will be common day fact by that time
a new west will rise
smaller but retaining the purity of the white blood
and in the end, they'll take over the world again, just a bit more radical this time, having learned from past mistakes
>tfw born too late for hitler, and too early for the rise of new imperialism

It's just Jewish tricks.
This guy is our enemy why would he give us real advice?
He wants us to go the way of South Africa.

This. I think our core animating ideas will succeed because they are already becoming mainstream for conservatives. White nationalism is unfeasible. But I don't think that extremists will sabotage the whole movement like he said. Every movement has extremists in it that push the envelope and keep our ideas fresh.

It will matter eventually.
I'd like to see state instituted religion in the Ethnostate, probably Christianity.
We'd prescribe in a mild way so Church is just a mandatory 1 hour service on Sunday.
People will think it's stupid, but religion's functional purpose within society is to grant collective axioms to a tribe. Means better harmony within the group as well as a higher birthrate.
They're Trotsky-ites.

He's talking about his (((fellow whites))). And he's lying, jews are the most in group prference of all races. He's just trying to keep hope alive that the next expulsion isn't right around the corner

no lmao fuck niggers

>Given that Whites and White countries have made 90% of significant historical events, figures, and contributions to the world, it stands to reason that they deserve continued existence as an identifiable group just like any other people.

It's not though. If I asked this question in the year 500 you would predict Asians and Mediterranean are the best predictors. Just because western europe has dominated for the past 400 years doesn't mean that will continue to be the case.


You also have to consider that western domination over the past 150 years is mostly due to jews.

Whatever. That's besides the point. Alt-righters are not going to have, and they dont, kids because they are non-religious

>If they're trying to smear the alt-right spencer is the worst choice
Spencer is getting most of the flack, and as they work on taking him out, 100 others will go under the radar and grow bigger than Spencer was a year ago.

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>western domination was due to jews
Literally retarded and delusional.
Jews have never had as much power as they do today and they certainly weren't responsible for the lion's share of events, figures, or inventions.

You aren't Jewish by chance, are you?

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>Just because western europe has dominated for the past 400 years doesn't mean that will continue to be the case.
yeah, because you filled it with violent, unintelligent subhumans
not wholly unlike what happened to Rome
>mostly due to jews.
literally kill yourself

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You do realize the majority of democratic voters are also white? People vote along social lines. It's just that the kind of social groups that vote republican are mostly white. The groups who vote democrat are mostly white as well but contain most minorities as well

Rome was filled with germanics which if i'm not mistaken those germanic's descendants are the ones who rule today

>People vote along social lines. It's just that the kind of social groups that vote republican are mostly white.
Hmm... I wonder why this is.

And yet 50% of California's population is planning to leave the place. Frankenstein meets its monster and does not want to stay in a room with it. They are choosing race over ideology.

No, what you are saying is besides the point. those religious peoples kids will be more suspect able to becoming even more right wing and as the whole political spectrum shifts to the right, they will and those views will become more acceptable.
Many Christians whites aren't really that hostiles to white nationalism.