Why is it still unsurpassed despite so many attempted imitations?

Why is it still unsurpassed despite so many attempted imitations?

Because an imitation is bound to fail. There has to be some innovation in a work to surpass its inspirations; it can't just be an empty rehash.

cuz of her

You'll make her blush.

>imitation is bound to fail
This guy disagree.

Moetan surpassed Evangelion.

Fuck off Gil

Umaru was the closest anime has come to reaching NGE level.

because of the time period that it was made in

It's funny how the film grain makes that image 929KB. Film grain is like a jpg compression jammer.

It's an intensely personal work in a medium that rarely allows for such statements.

Not even including the actual quality of the show from the viewer perspective there were a number of factors that helped

>anno is an autist and a really talented director and animator
>he was extremely mentally unhinged during the making of the original series and EoE
>was a trendsetter and had a lot of original elements
>made at the very end of the traditional animation era right before digital animation methods began to take over

One of those truly one-off series that will forever be unique and weird and inspiring that was the product of an autismal sadneet

There is nothing to surpsss

One of the first television anime to take itself seriously. All the others were content with being pulp fiction cartoons for kids.

No anime before Evangelion would've dreamed of showing characters so flawed, who suffered so much. No anime before Evangelion would've had a main character who hits so close to home with the audience. Directors just assumed audiences wanted a sugary sweet experience.

Because imitating shit just creates more shit

Good bait

He knew his audience well too because he was essentially part of it, and really critical of being that way.

A fiction story is nothing more than an entertaining lie.

And as every skilled liar knows, the best lie is the one which skirts closest to reality.

But Anno is a dedicated liar, one that puts all his passion and drive into it. One of the few who wants his viewer to have an experience, a memory, instead of just seeking entertainment.
How long is the skirt? Does it take just a little bit of wind to reveal the truth, or is it a longer one that requires more effort? Is there absolute territory involved?

But Asuka doesn't like Shinji.

There's ample evidence that she doesn't just like him, she's genuinely in love with him as a person.

If only there was a way to see into her mind and find out what she really feels...

In a country that rarely allows such statements. It's usually considered arrogant or immature to do something differently from how it's always been done. It's why their culture remains more intact than many other countries during westernization.

His mental unhingedness added a very different mood to the show compared to its contemporaries.

Evangelion is an extremely depressing setting. There's been an apocalyptic cataclysm. Large parts of humanity have been wiped out. Literal alien monsters are invading the planet and wiping out life. Humanity is at the brink of extinction. The only people that can fight these monsters are children that get mentally tortured as they enter these machines that are actually alien monsters themselves.

With each passing conflict, the threats get more serious and humanity gets closer to extinction. The children become more unhinged, and the people forcing them to pilot these monsters become more desperate as they struggle to find ways to extend human existence just a few more days.

To top it all off, it's packaged in doomsday christian babble with a batshit ending where humanity fails to save itself and the world ends.

It's fun to shit on Evangelion and its franchised commercialism but at the end of the day, the original series was pretty unique for what it ended up doing. Either intentionally or unintentionally.

That might be the whole reason Shinji started instrumentality in the first place, so he could get closer to her. I'm gonna make an image explaining this soon

Are you fatefags seriously telling me that the message of Fate is that mindless rehashes are perfectly acceptable?

Oh, that actually makes perfect sense, considering

they're making an inside joke, sweetheart.

AND SO I PRAY
UNLIMITED KUSOGE WORKS

You didn't understand his post, but you think he's the person who misunderstood. You poor thing.

She really did mean that much to him, did she? Too bad I'm not in a chinese cartoon and can't give the world to someone.

With Rebuild (and in particular 3.0) he took off the skirt revealing his hairy asshole. Too far. Nobody wanted to see that.

Damage control.

There's a world inside you that's yours, and you can do anything with it that you want.

I'm trying real hard not to have this mental image. Who was the other party during the skirt lifting wind? Was it Moyoko? Iku-chan? Or was it simply an empty theater with a cross down the middle?

The entirety of Studio Khara, held captive (or, really, bribed with money and forced to watch)

Anything but that one thing I consider important. So it really is the same as in EoE.

Did they have to clap their hands? Did they all stand around the slutted-up Master and say happy birthday?

What, imagine?
Just do it when you have time and don't try to multitask it.
It's also easier in dim lighting

The concept artists were forced to record his poses.
Those poses were later used as the basis for Rebuild figurines, especially Mari's.

I can't do it like I always do anymore. Not after yesterday. Not after not being able to breathe for the entire day. There's only her now.

There's no way this thread isn't just one guy talking to himself.

I haven't ever had anything that severe, only some moments that made me tear up. I can never tell if it's because of how tender they are or if it's regret that they're not real (and two-sided, so to speak)

For one, it just looks nicer. People don't properly appreciate just how tight the visuals are.

Some of the middle episodes got the filler treatment, but generally it really is beautifully drawn

Those craters on Lilith's mask, I wonder if it's because she was on the moon originally.

It was always real on my side, I meant everything I ever said. Someone changed me as a person. That person deserves my world.

It can be real to you but she'll never experience it

She's torn down all my barriers. Whenever she's not here, I spend the time looking for all the signs and messages she's left for me. I've saved all the nicest things she said to me and all the images she's sent me. Spend the day thinking about her.

The only good anime that consistently referenced Eva (I wouldn't call it an imitation though) was Eureka 7.

Bake has a lot of introspection and visual storytelling that made Eva Eva.

I didn't think the setting was depressing. The ending was, but the setting could've been much worse
Texhnolyze has a depressing setting, Evangelion doesn't

An imitation is bound to be inferior to the original.

I've seen Zeta and it has nothing on Eva. Tomino only ever reveals glimpses of what the characters really feel or think about. And it's only for the sake of keeping the audience interested. Any time there's a risk of revealing anything genuinely interesting and human, the scene changes and the subject is dropped. What makes Char tick? What makes such a confident and honest person hate his own name? Even when we do get bits of explanation, it's all explained in a mechanical, matter of fact way. We never get to the manly tears. Zeta isn't a bad story by any means, but it simply lacks the passion Eva has.

>An imitation is bound to be inferior to the original.
Imitations make for great cooks though, and they got a lot of precision and dedication behind them.

Then why isn't she concerned about his well being? Why is she so different around Kaji? Why did the staff condemn the LAS ship? She literally calls him pathetic, disgusting and that she would rather die than be his girlfriend.

They literally changed Asuka Langley Sohryuu in Rebuild to be in love, that they had to rename her. Sohryuu would NEVER EVER cook for Shinji, not in a million time loops.

Well, at least we can all agree on something.

The only person besides her mother who betrayed Asuka was Asuka herself. She didn't want a relationship. She wanted to be desired. She wanted to have all of someone attention and affection. Not so she could love. Not so she could be loved. But for the sake of that one selfish, pathetic moment of rejection that makes her feel so powerful.

I'm surprised no one took this

but there's nothing to like in shinji
he truly was the beta otaku self-insert

Because it hits close to home. We all want a sugary sweet experience where we can just be passive observers and not engage ourselves mentally or emotionally. How many people would say Eva is about life, and how many would say it's about a purple robot having an orgasm?

For you I recommend TTGL.

At least you bothered to respond.
Tell me one thing. Does the fact that someone spend every whole day with you, for a month, mean anything TO you? I need to know.

You are still young.

Please stop telling me this nonsense. Please tell me the truth.

Because mid 90s japan was fucking insane and you can't just make deep depression appear out of nowhere.

Zeta was vastly inferior to its original.

You mean ZZ's original.

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This week was the happiest time I can remember. I was ready to give you everything on a silver platter if you just asked for it.
Now you accuse me of being emotionally manipulative. Towards you. I have no words. I don't know what to say. I can't say anything.

uh...

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>merch is a part of the story

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I don't see how this quote devalues the characters or the story in any way.

Some borderline pedophiles known as Reifags and Asukafags. Nuff said.

its not a crime to be attracted to a drawing

grandpa bones is superior

The imitations dont have the qualities that makes eva great. For one thing, the show has an extreme overlap between characterizations and world-building. essentially 2 birds 1 stone. (pic related good example)

Essentially everything is important. You care about the characters because you know what makes them tick and at the same time it's tied to the overall universe of the story.

It all amounts to a narrative that's engaging and emotionally-engaged.


Lackluster shows and imitations dont achieve that level of basic storytelling. (achieving 2 things with 1 scenario)

Bah. That faker is only good against Goldie and to some extend Berserker due to the way God Hand works. He is pretty mediocre against everyone else.

FPBP

NGE was popular because it was different compared to the other anime from its time.
Series that reinvent their genres like NGE and Madoka or are somewhat unique like Lain tend to gain popularity. Imitations are often good but rarely as memorable and they get compared to earlier animes.

Just noticed the plugsuit and the pod. Someone knows...

explain?

Look at the picture again. Then open Misato's page on the wiki and see if you can find an entry plug that's the perfect size for her height and build. Misato was the original pilot.

>Madoka
>reinvent anything

Isn't that what validation means? Some of us use that to describe Asuka's character, but it makes some posters mad that she wasn't genuine with Shinji.

But your pic IS the imitation.

That's not validation, that's the opposite of. She ruined her own life by ruining someone else's. She neither grew as a person nor gained any positive memory or experience. And she kind of did the same thing to Shinji that her mom did to her, except emotionally instead of physically.

A good show has merch after it's success.

What's he trying to say?

I think he's trying to imply samefag.

I don't understand you people, Evangelion was cool but it was not the Be-all, End-all of animation. It started off as a creepy harem comedy and they fucking ran out of money in the last few episodes.

it was not a creepy harem comedy, what are dumb, it was a plot focused action mecha type thing

>it was not a creepy harem comedy

>I think he's trying to imply samefag.
how so?

>cherry picking at its finest

At this point I wonder if people even watch Ideon.

It's got one seed and 80 downloads. That should give you an idea.

>one seed and 80 downloads
Only?

Well, the '91 market crash from which they've never entirely recovered and ended the good times of the '80s was still a recent memory. I can see why a lot of Japanese would've been depressed around that time.

And I'm supposed to take you're one of those 80 people?

It did set the template for magical girls in coming years. Yes, there haven't been a whole lot of MG anime in terms of numbers, but the influence is there.