How is it one of the biggest shows of the 2000s has dwindled to a small yet dedicated fanbase?
Literally the most entry tier anime in 2006, now it's that obscure, dusty DVD collection you find at the back of your local store. All because that fuck Tanigawa couldn't be bothered to get off his ass and make more material.
because it was a shit show, sometimes it takes time to reveal these things due to flavour of the month
Leo Jenkins
The same will probably happen to shows like SAO. Its not like Haruhi is the only forgotten 2000's series, Lucky Star used to be everywhere too but nobody cares about it now.
Noah Harris
Because lucky star is shit I still think she will come back, I want to go back to 2006 so bad
Anthony Perez
Lucky Star is still remembered fondly
Cooper Walker
because at it's core it's shit that was only popular when it came out
Luis Turner
Fucking hard to watch in the right order. Fans need to fix their shit and make playlists
Robert Richardson
>Because lucky star is shit I feel sorry for you, user.
Julian Sanchez
Why did this thread make me so sad It's meant to be watched in airing order
Aiden Long
Most sites don't have it in that order
Gavin Lopez
Just in the same way Haruhi is.
Josiah Cox
>Fucking hard to watch in the right order I watched it chronological not much time ago and didn't have problems with it. Maybe for people who want a strong arc during the whole thing broadcast is better but it's not like the LNs are all about strong arcs anyway, there are tons of short stories, some which are pretty good like snow mountain
Isaac Gray
S3 is never going to happen now, is it?
Logan Sanders
Blame the backward ass way Japan makes anime. They're utterly unable to properly monetize anime, hence anime is only a companion piece to any other material like LN, manga, and merchandising from figures.
There is already enough material to make S3, but they won't because anime on its own are not gonna make profit, they need to wait until the author to release another LN, so that they can make anime to boost LN sales and branch off with merchandising.
Daniel Nguyen
>There are kids right now getting into anime who have never heard of Haruhi
Landon Long
>Haruhi is going to fade into nothing because of Kadokawa and Tanigawa
Eli Murphy
More like Whoruhi
Jeremiah Johnson
This. If Haruhi were a western poperty we would already have like 6 season, 4 movies and two game shows.
Benjamin Carter
>Who-ruhi >Whore-uhi I don't know if the double entendre was intentional, but good job.
Logan Wood
Novels are dead, VA careers are dead.
Josiah Harris
Yeah but it'd also be full of fucking diversity and be pushing some sort of fucking agenda.
Maybe in the future we'll have some sort of happy medium, the way things are being made and distributed has already changed massively in the last 10 years and god only knows where it'll go from here.
Evan Morales
It will never happen to SAO. It's too popular.
Levi Clark
How many anime from the 90s can you name that aren't Evangelion, part of a constantly rebooted franchise like Gundam, or aired on North American TV in the 00s?
Logan Parker
How would a Haruhi comeback in 2017 even be received by the masses? I could see a shitload of kids being perplexed at the hype.
Jacob Nguyen
Look at it another way: Is any other anime from 2006 remembered as much as Haruhi? Haruhi's easily doing better than anything else on this list. Death Note, NHK, Ergo Proxy, XXXholic are critically acclaimed, but not super popular. Negima, Zero no Tsukaima, School Rumble, Higurashi, and Magipoka all used to be popular, but are now rarely discussed. 2006 used to be known as Year of the Trap (Ouran, Kashimashi, Otoboku, PriPri...) but few are into that anymore.
Bentley Gonzalez
Gintama is on that list and is doing better than Haruhi...
Isaiah Bailey
>Year of the Trap forgot the most obvious one
Isaac Harris
Plus SAO will probably be getting sequels for the foreseeable future.
Jaxon Martin
It'd be but a sequel to 2 seasons and a movie would target less people so I can see it not being ALL that popular.
Still running.
David Wood
Aria, Black Lagoon, Utawarerumono, Death Note, Negima, Code Geass, D.Gray-man
Grayson Martinez
Haruhi gets more threads than any of those. Except Death Note because of the live adaptation.
Ayden Hughes
Death Note is still very popular. It recently got a new movie (a nip one, not the Netflix disaster) and a dorama a couple of years ago.
Liam Perry
And Code Geass cause the movies have rejuvenated interest.
Hudson Campbell
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY LN12 TANIGAWA
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY SNOWY MOUNTAIN SYNDROME + EDITOR IN CHIEF OVAS KYOANI
Mason Gomez
What spits in the face even more is all the 2016 Haruhi hype because of the 10th anniversary, then the sense of slight melancholy during the Christmas stream rewatch of the show because we got fuck all.
Adam Bennett
stop rewatching for a while it lowers expectations and eases the pain
Jose Walker
The last time I watched Haruhi was last Christmas.
It's only now I'm picking up all the anime news because I've fully reintegrated myself back into my Sup Forums routine. It's sad to see this place in such a state where nobody points on Tumblr filenames or can tell who Suiseiseki is.
It's suffering being an oldfag.
Chase Bennett
Looking at these mid-2000s airing lists always makes me feel weird.
Aaron Baker
So we already got to the point of feeling nostalgia over pre 2000 shows huh. Feels kinda weird
Adam Diaz
I meant over 2000's shows*
John Taylor
Haruhi was too popular, but it's dead. SAO will continue though since they'll keep milking it, with Haruhi they can't since the author is gone.
Jack Gonzalez
In two months time, people born in 2000 will legally be allowed to post here.
Unless Sup Forums raises the minimum age to 21.
Brandon Rivera
10 years is not an insignificant amount of time.
Jack Gonzalez
The early part of the 2000s were over half my lifetime ago. Is it wrong to feel nostalgia for something from when you were a child?
Jackson Davis
Because anime is invariably shit
Thomas Nguyen
It's more following in the footsteps of FMP, where people spent a long time expecting a continuation that didn't come. So most people just gave up caring.
Sebastian Price
I never said it was wrong. I just feel like it was yesterday that I watched Haruhi, not like 10 years have already passed.
Ayden Morris
Anime fans are fickle. Why you think we have waifu of the season threads.
Jordan Gutierrez
Less succinctly, after kyoani told fans to go fuck themselves with endless eight people stopped caring, then when Disappearance came out and was excellent everything was forgiven and hopes turned to S3, and now it's been almost eight more years and there's no chance of another series so people stopped caring again, but for real this time. The only reason Disappearance was acceptable after S2's slap in the face was because it completely outdid everything from before; I can't imagine a televised S3 could possibly live up to that.
Isaiah Lee
Nah, it's like a bunch of starving niggers. They'll eat anything that's put on a plate in front of them, same goes for Haruhi fans.
Henry Cooper
cant they just animate the manga? cant they even do that?
Eli Roberts
You have to completely delusional to think Death Note is still not incredibly popular. It just got a Hollywood adaptation and it's the most watched anime on MAL with over 1million watchers.
Lucas Davis
I miss 2006-2009 a lot.
Gavin Cox
>manga >not the LN
Before the live adaptation we had no DN threads
Jaxon Peterson
Is the manga different to the LNs?
Camden Russell
We had no DN thread because there wasn't anything left to discuss, but for most people getting into anime Death Note is still baby's first non Naruto anime.
Frankly it butchers the LN by skipping lots of monologues and stuff. The art isn't good until the last volumes. On the plus side it does have some nice bonus side stories. I think these were written by Tanigawa like the Someday in the Rain episode and the ending Yuki sings at the end of Disappearance.
Jaxson Jenkins
People will watch it for the memes, just like people will turn out for Geass S3, but unless new Haruhi has the same level of technical or plot upgrade from Disappearance that Disappearance had from S2, people will walk away shaking their heads, "it's a failure," "Haruhi is finished", etc. And they'll be right.
James Sanchez
This also used to be everywhere too but nobody cares about it now.
Nathaniel Williams
Perhaps this is what Tanigawa is doing? Honing, rewriting and drafting his material so that a Haruhi comeback is just as explosive as we expect it to be?
As he said at the end of the last novel he did, he isn't going to stop. But at the same time we haven't heard from him at all for the past six years.
Josiah Cooper
>Welcome to the NHL is more than hen years ago
Where the fuck did the time go? I demand a refund!
Brayden Evans
It's not about time. He wrote Disappearance in a few week and it's still a masterpiece. He's just lazy as fuck but maybe Haruhi will come back someday.
Angel Morales
I still saw merch for it all over the place when I went to a convention a few months ago, which would seem to contradict your assertion.
Bentley Lopez
>file deleted
What the fuck did you post?
Xavier Walker
Don't underestimate a lack of ongoing content, especially in this day and age where you're bombarded with easier access than ever to all kinds of media
Asher Evans
that's because it's garbage and has been overtaken by all the other flavour of the month hippo turds you faggots consume. haruhifaggots were the original hamster squad and just as cancerous
Blake Gray
Would a S3 have music as patrician considering current kyoani?
Dominic Jenkins
Perhaps.
Jayden Cox
E7 was still airing in 2006 (spring 2015-spring 2016) and its more remembered, if just not properly discussed as being a complete change in thinking in the ecological approach to the medium and in general. Haruhi doesn't have that sort of actuality.
Justin Carter
incest kiddie porn
Noah Rogers
Just animate the spooky mansion faggots
Christopher Howard
some generic feels guy, probably deleted it himself for attention
Noah Lopez
>E7 was still airing in 2006 (spring 2015-spring 2016) and its more remembered, if just not properly discussed as being a complete change in thinking in the ecological approach to the medium and in general.
Please elaborate.
Nolan King
Me too. But I think it only seemed so good because everything after 2010 sucked. The internet takeover by normalfags started, video games started getting shitty, popular music got shitty, and a bunch of other shit. I know I was having a blast in high school and enjoying life, but this isn't just rose-tinted glasses here, everything now is objectively worse than pre 2010.
Adam Powell
maybe youre him and youre just trying to get more attention by drawing to the fact he was trying to get attention
Evan Williams
I'm not sure that I'd agree that everything is worse but it's certainly a worse time to be into a lot of niche and formerly niche interests. The sweet spot was when the internet made things easily accessible for people already into the niche, but didn't do much to draw additional people in. Though I'm sure that Usenet diehards would say exactly the same thing about AOL and the endless September.
Jacob Butler
It literally approaches various topics within the so-called 'environmental humanities' in ways that have never been done before. Basically, it combines the cutting-edge of the field with traditional popular literary forms and a somewhat ignored dismissal of modern evolutionary thought. I have no clue how to explain this clearly and plainly without assuming a lot of prerequisite knowledge, but it is genuinely such an incredible accomplishment that I am in disbelief at how bad everything directly or tangentially related to it has been. It's almost as if nobody was aware of what they were doing while they were doing it. Read up on the 'environmental humanities' and particularly religion and ecology, then rewatch the series. Nothing will ever be the same after that. I am probably the only one who has written anything, formally or informally, on the two, and I still cannot explain it aptly. Any ecological topics rendered in anime or even serious film seem to dwell in a sort of vacuum that ignore the 60 or so years of what can be recognized as 'deep' scholarship. I have tried my best to find other examples, but there just aren't. So often it's just incredibly simplistic and not even self-aware, even fucking AO is more self-aware of its topic with the whole matter of coralian mining. Any other potential example seems to just suggest an immanent disaster, but then only focuses on one thing that would be impacted by that disaster (as a popular example, look at Interstellar: food is a crisis, and at some point it seems to suggest that the Earth is unique for humans, but at the end it's just about family and everybody moves to some biotic ship in space no problem, with no sense of loss.) There are a lot of cases where 'unpacking' something ruins its capacity to express, but E7 just becomes more powerful as it is revealed. Nothing, absolutely nothing, was done unintentionally. The major scenes seem trite and overly sentimental, but especially episode 26 and 50
Jason Powell
hit the post button by accident when editing something: >but especially episode 26 and 50 are unmatched in their 'obvious subtlety'. I could unpack 26 for a long time, but I don't have the time unfortunately. In short, I can only describe it as the moment one realizes that they care about the planet they call home. The entire arc, which is probably the most popular arc of the series, leads up to that incredibly well. By far, episode 26 is the most incredible thing I have ever seen.
Justin Ortiz
Here's the last chapter.
Nolan Robinson
>35 posters DEAD AS FUCK
Ayden Richardson
does Japan even remember this trash?
Ryan Wright
If there is no new material or someone who finds an interesting new viewpoint everything will eventually be said about a show. Then it will only be flinging of opinions and head canons which is not interesting discussion.
Angel Allen
Yep, then those niches get flooded with new people, and because the average user is now relatively new, other users do not feel as pressured to familiarize themselves with the material or how the original community operated. Then, if the community in question involves a purchasable product, the company now waters down the product to the lowest common denominator in order to serve the majority of the customers who are now newfags.
Owen Reed
I loved S1 fuck literally fuck Kyoani I really hope people were fired for Endless Eight.
Disappearance was absolute art, though
Angel Cooper
Pretty much. Sup Forums and Sup Forums actually mirror each other pretty closely in how the interest has gone to shit, though in Sup Forums's case it's a little more pronounced on account of a somewhat nerdy and semi-niche interest suddenly turning into a Hollywood-tier entertainment industry inside a decade. I think in the case of Sup Forums it's more that what was for a couple of decades a fairly tightly-knit community has been dissolved. It's been spread thin and far thanks to the utterly gigantic numbers of people getting 'into it', to the point that what's being 'gotten into' today doesn't even resemble what it once was. It's something I always find interesting about the 'nerd chic' kind of crowd. They manufacture an image and identity around a niche interest but only at the most surface and mainstream-acceptable level possible. They wait until it's completely and utterly accepted and normal.
Jace Carter
I just realized Haruhi and all her friends are almost 30 by now.
I hope they're all doing alright.
David Cruz
Well, part of the trouble is that when Kyoani went independent from Kadokawa, they lost the rights. I dunno if they had any bad blood with them, and they may have since rebuilt their bridges since Amagi was another Kadokawa property, but yeah, too much time has passed now.
Shaft better not do the same with Madoka (though they seem to be).
Cameron Cook
That's the thing. Unless some new books happened or something, there wouldn't be a reason to revive the IP. It's possible but not worth the effort in its own right.
Noah Gonzalez
Feels good to not have watched Haruhi at the time so I can watch just a few episodes of E8 and enjoy the arc
Matthew Rivera
No.
Thomas Lopez
I feel like you are too young to remember things before the North American anime industry crash.
Julian Turner
>North American There was more than one anime industry. A similar kind of thing happened here in Australia, though. Things got borderline mainstream for a couple of years and then kind of died down. I'd take how it happened then over how it's happening now, though.
Joseph Lewis
Because the seasonal anime flood drowns people in so much they don't tend to go back and watch old stuff.
Wyatt Harris
Remember, there's people, a lot of people that 'watch anime' like it's an activity in its own right. They watch anime to watch anime, not because they actually want to see something.
Adrian Green
Sure because the internet as a whole is fucking dogshit now
Aiden Allen
Thanks based GodAni for dropping this shit for real eternal masterpieces such as Phantom World and Violet Evergarden!
Carter Butler
And yet...
Joshua Fisher
Nah, S3 could do really well. The stuff that it would cover is some of the strongest parts of the series
Andrew Diaz
Oh, you were talking actual ecology, not 'media environment' ecology.
You should try to flesh that out to a few pages and post it someplace just focusing on Eureka Sevens themes, because media analysis like that is totally valid. I do happen to be in a position to understand most of what you might talk about, having run through the series a couple times and having an interest in environmental issues that led to taking some courses back in college and generally staying abreast of news.
I can think of a half dozen anime alone with environmental themes from Blue Seed to Now and Then, Here and There to half the Studio Ghibli catalogue, but you're right that they don't tend to have a nuance to them. But then, they don't have 50 episodes to play it out in either.