I think we should institute a universal basic income(UBI)
It can be a way to deal with automation, and can help struggling families.Although there should be a regulatory body that makes sure deadbeats arent abusing it. And veterans should have a higher UBI. The money shall come from an increased tax on the rich. Im thinking the UBI should be $1000 per person, starting at the age of 18. Thoughts?
This better happen in every country in the world at the same time or the rich are just going to move to Spain.
Well since we are in the second gilded age, we wouldn't have to raise their taxes that much for the UBI. Also pulling out of a few occupations could help the government pay for it.
The U.S already has UBI except wealthy people dont recieve it or if you already make a significant amount there is no point of you recieving it. But instead of calling it UBI we call it Welfare
So when you go to spend your luxury money at a restaurant, who will be working there to serve you? Robots everywhere? You think that will happen in your lifetime?
This luxury money is made by rich people and forced at gunpoint to give to you for no reason other than you exist, by the way. You sound like a terrible human.
I don't think that it will, but it is better to have it set up early rather than later. I don't think we should have welfare as it is to easy to exploit and those who need it cant get it.
Also there are some families who have multiple jobs but still struggle to make ends meet. That extra thousand a month could really help them.
A UBI would still be cheaper than the wars we are in, and i have at least proposed a solution to paying for them instead of wanting our country to enter debt.
And those same rich people have more money than a person should ever need. They could easily be taxed more and still have more money than they could ever need.
>universal basic income
cant unto basic economics
Why would the government fritter away their money on useless NEETbux for people not to work? Just say you want to be a lazy nigger on welfare and quit trying to turn everyone else into one.
>Let's implement communism with extra steps and under a different name
There are a lot of issues with poverty, especially on the west coast of the USA, but handing out basic income isn’t going to fix that. It will only serve to further undermine the middle class which js hollowed out as is.
the only thing that will work is a negative income tax
Honestly I don't understand why you need a dishwasher or microwave.
You know most of the world lives on $2 a day. You have more money than you should ever need. I think it's time those people get together and force you at gunpoint to hand over some of that cash. And a fucking indoor toilet? My god half of India doesn't even have that. You've got the life, pal. You don't need all that.
Also free gibs for niggers, spics, and jews already exists.
UBI merely sets a new threshold for "zero" and all the same problems remain PLUS inflation.
Just cut taxes. Same net effect. But helps everyone equally.
maybe, just maybe we would accually see a armed rebellion at this point.
>universal basic income
so you want to force poor countries to pay people money that they can't afford to pay
$2000
Jeff Bezos can foot part of the bill by delivering free food to our houses.
Man look how much buying power people had during the great depression. If only we could be doing as well as people during the great depression.
No that helps people who are working, UBI helps those who aren't working.
Important difference.
I said i did not want it to be used as an excuse not to work, and if the person isn't working they should not receive it
I never said i needed it, it is useful for struggling families, and this country is richer than most of the planet yet we still have kids starving due to low wages, and this could help
And i offered ways for countries to pay for these thing, i do agree tax cuts will help, but im offering a solution to go alongside it,
Besides the rich in the world could easily pay for this, hence why we tax them for the UBI
That would work if landlords and corporations weren't told when you are allowed to keep more of your money.
If they know you have more untaxed income they will raise the cost of living.
But yeah UBI is a good way to destroy an economy that doesn't small population that consumes less than it produces.
I'm in favor of UBI too, but why bother trying to prevent deadbeats from abusing it? Just gib em the gibs, who cares? There'll be plenty to go around once the globalists are eliminated
UBI:
>tax on one thing is same as subsidizing everything else.
>subsidizing one thing is same as taxing everything else
>fiat, relative, valuations
>so UBI is same as steep progressive tax
>progressive tax doesn't increase incentive
>progressive tax kills incentive
>so UBI kills incentive, same as any other method of socialism
>incentive dies, production goes down
>caused inflation-like effects due to values of earnings not being equal to production, so prices also go up.
>production down, prices up.
>congrats, UBI, same as any socialism.
>let people either produce something of value or die, tragic reality of life.
I have a PHD in economics.
>Marxist ideology and feelings beats out math and facts though.
Would you be willing to be taxed above what you needed to survive so that those who live in poverty in America can be brought up to your level?
Or are you just a selfish asshole that wants to do that exact same thing to others?
cool you got a PhD in some horseshit
>You get money for free
Explain how market will manage to survive without printing money and inflation.
Also, explain how the market won't selfcorrect into making it moot.
At least in pooland we have mare it so it's only parents getting it for children, so there's SOME inc ntive
First we must prevent ethnic replacement of Europeans. Then we can think about petty things such as economy.
I would be willing to be taxed
That would actually work much better than UBI, i didn't even realize that existed. Im just trying to think of ways to help struggling families without letting deadbeats abuse it as those who need it cant get help
It is perfect way to invite everyone in the world to move to UBI countries. No thanks.
Great.
Kill any incentive to work towards building a business because the government is going to steal your money to give it to niggers. Kill any incentive to work at all because the government is going to give you "free shit" that other people worked for anyway.
Kys.
So my state gives everyone a check every year because of oil profits. Its a free $1k that I just invest. And if you have kids, every kid is another $1k.
it's deadbeats and homeless you give this to not people who want to interact with others outside you dumb faggot
Have you even read my posts, i already said only tax the richest, which will barely put a dent in their earnings, and to regulate it so deadbeats dont abuse it, with the purpose making sure working families still can feed themselves
Does your state have a lack of incentive to work because of a 1K going towards people? because thats what everyone seems to think will happen due to 1k
Or we could just purge those who aren't beneficial to society,
Ya thats bad, logical, but bad
The proposal got shut down by the public.
You are late.
The problem is that policy makers are corrupt deadbeats who would abuse it for their own gain and that the money that entrepreneurs make through the sweat and toil of building a business is still not yours or anyone else's to take (including the government), you thieving socialist retard.
Kys.
Why? Standardised equality, when applied to stupid people will always be abused. Take it from me, my country was once developing, but now is overruned by liberal and religious retards who pop children out like no ones business.
Eliminate the filth from society, don't yry to neutralise it.
>Brazil
>Universal Basic Income
It's just for niggers my dudes
It will never happen in Italy, M5Soros proposed free gibs to convince all the retarded terroni to vote for their party.
Most entrepreneurs will never reach a rich enough level to be taxed an increased amount for this
Im talking about Jeff Bezos type rich, where this will barely put a dent in their net worth. It is also the right of the government to tax money, as it is stated in the constitution.
Ya i agree, Brazil should not have UBI, itll be abused by the niggers down there
top kek Switzerland is on this list cause leftists can easily get 100k signatures forcing a public vote.
all they have to do is walk across the big university campuses and thy have it.
every single time though the people then go to give it a NO
>Ya i agree, Brazil should not have UBI, itll be abused by the niggers down there
>he says with an American flag
WEW
This would be the ideal solution.
I'm not willing to pay for to give free shit for Deshawndra and her 7 illegitimate little nigglets with 5 different baby daddies but I wouldn't mind paying to fund abortion centers in ghettos across America to get rid of the problem before it even starts.
They have more deadbeats then we do
"he Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"
Just gonna put this out there for anyone who says the government doesn't have the right to tax people
It's still his fucking money that's not yours to take. What is it with you fucking liberals and the notion that you somehow deserve or have a right to other people's things?
Canada did a test back the in the day.
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"
Pretty sure the founding fathers were thinking everyone should be taxed at near 100% one day.
It was their intent.
> Defense and general welfare of the United States
We already have this. We pay enough taxes for defense.
General welfare of the united states means the upkeep of the country and not necessarily of its citizens. The state can levy taxes to fix roads and infrastructure that are in disrepair, because crumbling infrastructure is a danger to the state. Feeding starving niggers who are too lazy to work and taking care of illegal beaners is not.
It’s actually for families. That’s why it’s called “family purse”
Most of our money for wars come from loans, which is a whole other problem, and i have stated that it shall be taken away from deadbeats, and Illegals aren;t citizens in the first place so they wouldn;t get any. Also the governments main duty is to protect and helps its people.
It's not going to be taken away from deadbeats. Tons of niggers are getting my taxpayer money right now. If anything, the liberals are only going to keep giving more gibsmedats to those cunts because they get votes in return. That's how socialism works, you dolt. Why do you think illegals love democrats? Because there are many recorded instances of beaners getting rent money and fully funded scholarships from the taxpayers.
Levying heavy taxes for this bullshit is only going to make it worse. Ask the people of swedistan and frankistan.
>NL has launched a UBI pilot
what
no we haven't
Ever hear of something called regulation, if they aren't working and haven't applied for a job in X amount of time, no UBI for them, if they cant show photo ID, no UBI for them, if the illegals are already getting scholarships, either they have some good forged materials, or the schools need to be fined for not following laws
Photo i used is old, im prety sure the pilot was over a year ago, and hasn;t made headlines since
Are u completely stupid?
Universal basic income means enough money to survive not enough to live, plus being discouraged from finding an actual job.
Not to mention that nogs are just waiting a similar Law in order to come and parasite
> We should have UBI to help with jobs taken by automation and for families without jobs
> We shouldn't give UBI for people or families without jobs after a few months
Yeah, ok...
Maybe we can even give a name to this novel concept. Maybe... Welfare.
You can sugarcoat that shit all you want. You're still taking money away from people who worked for it.