How would you improve these characters?

How would you improve these characters?

With Goku’s seed all over their face.

Make them male with muscles and facial hair.

Have them eliminated by Freeza

Either kill them to never come back again or set up an arc where they get a thorough comeuppance (kind of like what the Red Hulk got after he pulled all kinds of retarded shenanigans just like these two) and then a redemption arc.

Have them win the Tournament of Power

Get Toei to STOP artificially giving them Super Saiyan powers.

Caulifla has a fleshed out personality, but Toei instant need to just power her up unnecessarily is idiotic. Nobody would be complaining about her if Toei would have done things naturally.

As for Kale, she needs less time on the Legendary Super Sayian transformation and more time dedicated to making her an actual personality.

Thats easy

Kale: Make her like Shoot with HxH, someone with talent but lacks confidence and is a coward.

Caulifla: Make her like Garou from OPM, someone who uses techniques and has impressive talent which makes her grow in battle.

Caulifla could use a flaw to overcome, like Gyro from Jojolion's lack of resolve.

*SBR
not Jojolion

more Doujins

Let Freeza kill Kale(in an accident way), so Cauliflas resolve is wanting to revive Kale with the Super Dragon Balls.

(You)

Have them kiss

They're perfect.

Yes, perfect death fodder. They're destined to lose anyway, so why doesn't Toei try and makes them at least tolerable in the process? That random mook with a familty Gohan eliminated had more of a personality and motivation and a cooler gimmick than both of these bitches combined. Holy fuck.

Give them abs and make them less stickfigured
In fact, do this to every martial arts woman in Dragon Ball universe and you've not only gained a boner, you've also improved the entire franchise by atleast 400%

>Caulifla
She is already an interesting character, but needs to suffer an astonishing defeat (hopefully, not to Gohan). Caulifla is a slave of her own overconfidence, she needs to learn where she currently stands, she's a big deal for sure, but she isn't on the same level as Goku, Freeza, Vegeta and the likes yet.

She listened to Cabba / Kale's request last episode, so she is nowhere near as stubborn / blockhead as someone like Vegeta.

>Kale
She needs to grow up and stop being so dependant on her sis. She is developing, last episode she wasn't afraid of disagreeing with Caulifla.

Also, I understand she's female Broly, but lets see how she reacts to Goku next episode. She needs to overcome her obsession with him and become her own character too. Broly's behavior was interesting for a single movie, by the Second Coming it was already tiresome.

Remove Kale.Give Caulifla a better design give a bit of a ditzy money hungry side along with her delinquent personality. Lengthen the time before the TOP to give her a longer training arc. Give her and Cabba a sibling rivalry. Give them Hit as a mentor figure.

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make them fall in love with Gohan

Shouldve been written like Fubuki and Tatsumaki.

You have to be careful not to stray into dyke territory though

Gattai

Having them each learn one new power in the ToP is fine, but if Caulifla jumps all the way from basic Super Saiyan all the way up to Blue in one tournament then I'm calling bullshit. That took Goku the entirety of DBZ- the years of training and dozens of crazy experiences to achieve.

I guess its too long since I've read SBR, what do you mean with Gyro's lack of resolve?

>How would you improve these characters?
Making them fuse to fight Goku. The universe 6's equivalent of the fusion dance is tribbing.

But Tatsumaki is terrible user

Something like pic related

tails
give them muscles so they dont look like stick figures

Goku always had to innovate, he was always the first in his universe to figure out a new power. When others see how it's done it becomes much easier.

Make Kale whiter

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Fun fact thats not lipstick Kale just has plump sexy cocksucking lips.

Make them fatter.

Give Caulifla better pants.

He inherited everyone he had so he didn't have a strong enough drive to persevere.

He inherited everything he had so he didn't have a strong enough drive to persevere.

too much abs

4 u
they're supposed to be warriors for god sake, they should literally have the same physique as goku but due to our sake, having them keep the female shape and sexiness is important

This. Have Freeza be the one to get rid of all the U6 monkey garbage once and for all.

Replace all the boring 17 episodes with episodes about them and the rest of Universe 6.

Also this.

They couldve made their characters like pic related.

Caulifla= Ymir, the badass tomboy

Kale = Historia, the gutsy cute girl.

Please God this.

Man k-on was ugly

>Jojo

Speaking of that, if Toei wanted to use the delinquent aspect, Caulifla and Kale personalities and bonds couldve been done like these guys.

More well toned/defined bodies is a must and a couple fun filler episodes, like DBZ had, would make them enjoyable. At the moment, both of them are two dimensional, physically and personality-wise

>hey're supposed to be warriors for god sake, they should literally have the same physique as goku
Saiyans are clearly a sexually dimorphic species. What you're asking for is retarded regardless of powerlevel.

Her voice is so irritating

Is this loss

Yukana isnt that good but directing doesnt help her either.

She was alright in episode 112 because she was playing the straight guy role to Caulifla(which Yukana already did it before in Bleach with Isane).

Make them just a little bit thicker. That's literally it. Make them look less like string beans. Just give them some weight. They look anorexic.

I said they "should" have, not that I'm asking
All I want is some generic athletic look with visible abs so they'd look like they actually train

Give them tails.

A return to the original? I don't like the wimpy noodle look in general, which Cabba also has.

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>giving saiyan Rei a personality
only when the real Rei gets one.

>I said they "should" have
No they shouldn't. You think human females (which the female saiyans are clearly modeled after) get exactly the same muscle hypertrophy as males if they do the exact same training? I actually agree with you on warriors having a physique that reflects their lifestyle, but you're factually mistaken about the specifics.

To be fair Cabba looks just as wimpy and stringy as they do.

The sad part is that an argument could be made that both of these designs are non-canon (since Toriyama didn't draw either of these)

>jojo
>delinquents

>Rei
>nothing like Rei
More proof Superfags are clueless casuals.

This, just with a little more toned abs

nobody gives a fuck about toriyama anymore, his designs are getting worse by the minute and even fucking Videl/Launch look more saiyan than any of Kale, Cabba or Caulifla

Toriyama isn't responsible for quite a few good things, like Bardock.

tbf, Caulifa will never be as upfront and brash as Jotaro would

His design is pretty weak, but the animators really didn't do justice with the oversimplified stylization

you can find enough similarities with the eva kids and U6 saiyans

Give Caulifia a skirt

I'd hate them less if they had good character designs. Don't need to be muscle girls, but the thing look needs to go.

twig look*

Toriyama did design Fasha's final look though. Get your facts straight.