Why is it that the Irish, Italians, and Slavs were not considered white back then but they are now?
Why is it that the Irish, Italians, and Slavs were not considered white back then but they are now?
Connor Baker
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David Edwards
Where the fuck is your citation
Isaiah Smith
Cause before they imported actual niggers. Europeans were racist against each other.
Jonathan Foster
They were never considered to be non-white, this is a myth and a meme.
Ayden Stewart
Religious lines. Protestants hated other kinds of christianity.
Jace Bailey
They weren't considered non-white, just lesser than natives. It wasn't a racist thing, it was a nativist vs foreigner thing. Even Germans and Swedes were discriminated against here at one point, but it wasn't racism.
Eli Barnes
Phase 2
Isaiah Stewart
Christopher Diaz
we were and still are considered an underclass to nordics and wasps.
Hunter Peterson
They weren't WASPs
Grayson Collins
That's more of an excuse for English domination of Ireland. It was really mostly a religious thing that differentiated them.
Brandon Gomez
Ryder Thompson
This is actually from a joke magazine.
Jacob Martinez
I remember Jared Taylor was going to address this in his "debate" with Tariq Nasheed until that ape kept interrupting him. I really wanted to know what he was going to say too
Bentley Reyes
According to whom shill ?
They were always considered kin
Europeans always saw themselves as at least being cousins since we look like each other.
Brandon Ortiz
What's the truth then? Genuinely curious
Jackson Hernandez
I don't know, but I would guess it has to do with culture specifically the lower living standards of the european immigrants coming in as well as high profile crimes in the larger port cities where they settled.
Jayden Reyes
That we hated each other's guts because of ethnics. We just took the white cluster and split that into further sub groups. That is all there is to it.
Oliver Foster
The reason irish were not considered "wyt" in America when they came over here, was because the Anglos still held resentment against the Irish since they have been at war for centuries, so when the Anglos settled in America, they brought these stories and folk legends that portrayed Irish in a bad light.
So when the Irish started to settle in New York, old grudges flared up.
It would be like Serbians and Albanians calling each other nonwhite.
Samuel Gray
Blake Collins
Jacob Evans
This meme again? Several of the signers of the Declaration of Independence had Irish ancestry. And our 8th prez was Irish.
Jayden Brown
Wait aren't Irish anglos? I thought that term referred to all peoples of the British Isles
Xavier King
No more infighting, ok anons?
Ian Mitchell
Uncle Sam is literally Happy Merchant in that pic.
Luis Reyes
No kek
Irish are CELTS , another great White Tribe
Celts were the first great white tribe i think
You could find celts in the British Isles, France, and also Turkey and the Levant thousands of years ago.
Turkey used to be called Galatia
Adam Ross
This one.
Robert Cox
Irish and slavs have earned it. Both are outstanding warriors.
Cooper Johnson
The Gauls were far superior as were the Iberians.
Anthony Price
Because time is fucking crazy, dude.
Carter Wood
Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Irish are Celts
Chase Martinez
spud niggers and goombas still arent white. slav are neanderthal sub human barbarians to this day. not white.
Cameron Rogers
Jews
Jackson Edwards
The Tocharian Mummies of Eastern China who were found in the 90's, had tartan celtic style clothing.
They were 6'6 and had redhair.
They were 5,000 years old, pre-dating the proto-Chinese by 2,000 years , they were still in Siberia.
Gabriel Sanchez
>current year
>still shitting on our big-brained hairy homonid ancestors
Fucking leaf cunt
Robert Reed
They're white by comparison.
Colton Wood
People joked about it, no one actually thought it.
You guys cling to this point like it absolutely destroys are whole argument
Noah Russell
Reading wiki, when the Irish were expelled from their land, they did a similar thing to what migrants are doing now, like suddenly show up in overwhelming numbers at docks and then hang around and steal shit (being poor as hell meant there was little alternative when feeding themselves). Best I can figure it.
Alexander Bennett
How do you read this text upsidedown?
Joseph Richardson
if your white your white, regardless of flags or memes
Andrew Moore
The Irish lived on those islands long before the anglos moved there from the mainland
Logan Stewart
lol, Sam's nose is always suspect
It comes up because most people have only a cursory understanding of history. Pic related is often used as evidence, but it's a satire of the moral qualities of many of the people coming in. There were anarchists and mafia coming into the US from Italy.
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>Soon after arriving in the United States at the age of 40, Galleani attracted attention in radical anarchist circles as a charismatic orator; he called for violence as necessary to overthrow the capitalists who oppressed the working man. Settling in Paterson, New Jersey, Galleani became the editor of La Questione Sociale, the leading Italian anarchist periodical in the United States at the time. He took undisguised pride in describing himself as a subversive, a revolutionary propagandist dedicated to subverting established government and institutions by disseminating a political philosophy based on direct action, specifically violence.[7] By all accounts, Galleani was an extremely effective speaker and advocate of his policy of revolutionary violence. Carlo Buda, the brother of Galleanist bombmaker Mario Buda, said of him, "You heard Galleani speak, and you were ready to shoot the first policeman you saw".[8]
Easton Lee
They were considered white back then, stop believing Jewish lies
Ryan Nguyen
Are the Irish cheddar men? Or WHG?
Jeremiah Miller
Emphasis in all of the political cartoons with a negative view of the immigrants is their morals, not their race.
Josiah Martinez
Joshua Hernandez
I don't know what either of those things are
so
maybe?
Christopher Johnson
The truth is that they were never considered not to be white people. All that "Irish need not apply" horseshit was in Britain and by a handful of British people who operated businesses here in the US.
Dylan Torres
End of
Very much this
The white race is the most diverse race. It is a colourful race with different skin tones, eye and hair colours etc. Not surprising we divide each other up. Do not forget we are brothers
Zachary Myers
And the other are outstanding chefs
Jordan Edwards
Not going to lie that Neanderthal skull looks exactly like Larry King's head shape.
Nolan Clark
You gullible fuck.
Robert Johnson
>create cartoon detailing how prosperous Jews have become in New York
>Oy vey, telling everyone how rich we've become is Anti-Semitic!
Charles Moore
Whites don't actually exist it's some racial category created by burgers to tell who was hip and who wasn't.
The correct term would be native European or European descendent in america or European american.
Kayden Martin
Where's Irish, Dutch, and the few other Europeans missing from that cluster?
Nathaniel Collins
the mustache-sideburns is a good look. I wish we could pull it off these days and still be taken seriously
Levi Morales
Benjamin Williams
When I was a kid Portuguese, Spaniards, Italians, and Greeks were not "white" they were "Mediterranean". Easter Europeans were not "white" either. They were dirty gypsy slavshits, and rat commie bastards.
White used to mean Nordic, Germanic, or Anglo (AND Protestant, AND NOT a commie). Being a "ring kisser' made you an honorary nigger, while being a commie made you an honorary corpse. But now that we have niggers, spics, poos, and everything else the White Nationalists have lowered their standards.
Hey it's the 90's we'll take what we can get.
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Nathaniel Collins
This
Eli Cooper
Theyre white dw
Jacob Williams
BUT WHERE ARE THEY
I guess Dutch falls under or between German/Belgian while Irish is considered British, at least for the purposes of that study
Chase Diaz
Yeah, I want to meme about it but sarcasm is lost on half of you. They were never not white.
Asher Collins
ok, I cry evry tim
Liam Collins
This is pretty much the best explanation. The less brown people whites have to deal with, the more whites will subdivide. Most Asians can't tell their races apart by looking and go by language and culture to discriminate against each other. Blacks, at least the American ones, generally seem to be too dumb to tell any one black culture apart from any other, so they'd be the most united if they weren't always killing each other.
Ryan Ross
Oirish = celts = Indo-Europeans = Aryan
Landon Hernandez
Yup
Nolan Watson
>Turks are whiter than Sardinians
kek
Christian Torres
It was banter. A joke about how some group of Irish acted like a bunch of niggers at some point and it got revived as Jewish propoganda now
Joshua Miller
White ethnic groups in America had bantz with each other but it was never full scale hatred. Then we tried having bantz with brown people and they couldn't take it.
Julian Martinez
They still had attachments to Europe. Not truly "American ethnicity" yet.
Ethan Thompson
Because whiteness is a social construct. Doesn’t mean that there aren’t genetic differences between ethnic groups, just means race as understood and utilized by Americans is socially constructed.
Blake Carter
kek
The purity spiral
What about half Irish half Italian. Is that white?
Blake Walker
I don’t have a clue but I know white nationalist movements are dead I the water if they don’t include them.
Jaxson Bennett
The idea of Blackness is a social construct. Look at the wide variability between groups in Africa, as far as morphology, cognitive ability, etc. goes. But as far as dynamics between them and other groups outside of them go, the category is useful because it gets at something. Darwin said the only difference between a species and a genus is that species within a genus are more similar than genuses are to each other, describing degrees of separation, familiarity, unfamiliarty, and that this categorization goes down to the individual and expands in ever larger concentric circles of genetic familiarity encompassing at the extremes all life itself. The existence of sub-groups does not undermine the validity of a group (as a heuristic for categorizing individuals).
Hunter Campbell
It was just a method of keeping America predominantly Anglo Saxon and Protestant. They just called them non-white to gain favorability among the population.
Jayden Davis
I don't even care. I suspect all this talk of White Nationalism is same as the Alt Right. A label created by our enemy to lump people into then whip up the normalfags into hating as evil racists or whatever. I'm an ethno nationalist. Italy for Italians, Ireland for the Irish, Poland for Poles and so on.
What I see when I look at countries today. Is that western countries, both in Europe, including Eastern and Mediterranean, all have low native birth rates due to same reasons. They are all being flooded with 3rd worlders or basically anyone not of European ethnicity or culture. These are our friends and allies. The people responsible for this civilization destroying demographic changes is the enemy. It's as simple as that.
Asher Perry
Nativism was anti-Catholic, and anti-immigration, rather than anti-specific-"other"-white-nations. Also they were poor as fuck and prone to crowding up cities. Would you want that shit near you?
Carter Ortiz
It was banter. Irish are known for drinking and acting like faggots when drunk, so people called them niggers. Jewish propagandists took it out of context, they cite jokes and banter as proof that whitey is the devil and you wouldn't even be considered white 100 years ago. It's divide and conquer.
Nolan Martinez
Because they acted like savages. In order to not be outnumbered white Americans quietly started accepting their savage ways (alcoholism, organised crime) as normal.