Dragon Ball Super hate thread

>Shitty animation
>Terrible story
>Characters regressing into a childish behaviour
>Not even Dragon Ball anymore, more like Goku and colors
>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta, now a cuck
I hate this anime so much I think not even Gohan Blanco can save it anymore

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>Gohan Blanco
>>>/reddit/

You can clearly see on Vegeta's semble he accepted the cuckoldry lifestyle of being the beta male of the show and watching his wife relying on another man for protection

>>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta, now a cuck

Gohan is pathetic but he was anyway. Vegeta on the other hand has some really great character progression in Super and Super Vegeta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GT Vegeta.

>neck clearly smaller
>face noticeably more feminine
>less mad

Old Vegeta would rather end his life

>Implying Boo saga Gohan wasn't the peak of aesthetics in the show
>Implying he wasn't the chad of the show


You didn't live the good old days

can somebody give me more webm like this?

>you'll never get this animation badass muscular style ever again

we had good moments

Didn't keep up with his training couldn't even beat Dabura. Only became relevant after asspull god training, jobbed anyway and couldn't even catch potara earring.
>Chad of the show

The fucking state of Gohanpedos

And we never did again in Z.
Not a single moment has animation even close to that.

nobody cares about your fictional character war now fuck off and bash super.

In Z Goku evolved from a retarded monkey to an absolute Alpha male, calling Vegeta weaker, taking the reins of the crew everytime

>The moment where he threatens the Kaioshin to fight Vegeta
And today they turned him into a pathetic manchild who has never kissed his wife

Bro, he was 17 and an orphan

You can't blame him, his father is a piece of shit

>You don't seem to know what the word orphan means. And by the way, why did you post a picture of Yamcha?

El Shitposto Hilo

thats a really nice picture of gohan to my folder, thanks bro

>this guy is the best character on DB ever and doesn't even appear on the screen

fuck this moneymaker child show, fuck Goku I hate him now, fuck akira, fuck this godshit idea

super is trash and needs to be cancelled

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>Being this delusional

how can anyone even like the current traits of the show?

It looks plastic, artificial and a failed attempt to look HD

is piccolo made of paper there?

i hate how quickly memes become reddit

alpha men stopped watching on Z

Alpha men don't bother with fucking cartoons.

I hate how quick 4channers are to call memers underage in spite of their own raging hard-ons for memes

>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta
What reputation? There was nothing left to be destroyed.

I like dbs. Dbz had worse episodes. Fite me.

The Tournament of Power has broken me, I was the guy in my friend-group who defended the show when it was brought up in conversation...

>So what the animation isn't good in the first 30 episodes, just watch the movies!
>So what it makes no sense that Trunks can kill Zamasu without God Ki!
>So what Caulifla and Kale can get SS2 by just tingling their backs....
>So what...half the characters in the Tournament look like bad fan-art...

I just can't do it anymore, it's as bad as GT now

Dragon Ball has been impossible to defend since the Frieza arc.
>muh yellow spiky haircut: the show

>as bad as GT

>You can't blame him, his father is a piece of shit
boards.Sup Forums.org/r/eddit

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Needs more unnecesary cuts and zooms.

Similar pose, but clearly just a reference and not traced.

Cuando?

looks OK to me

90% of that would be fixed if it was adapted from a manga like before.

problem?

>>Shitty animation
This is true, though quality varies from episode to episode.
>>Terrible story
The story is fine, the pacing is what's lacking. Goku Black was a fine story hurting from bad pacing that just randomly slowed down and sped up, stretching parts that weren't key to the story as a whole and taking away impact from moments that needed a little more time to sink in.
>>Characters regressing into a childish behaviour
You're watching goddamn Dragon Ball. Despite a few dramatic moments it never really loses the original comedic tone.
>>Not even Dragon Ball anymore, more like Goku and colors
It's more Dragon Ball than it had ever been, letting the other characters have their own moments.
>>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta, now a cuck
>destruction
The characters aged and changed and it's absolutely fantastic that murderous Vegeta just became a happy parent that tries hard to mantain a tough exterior. Gohan being a family man is absolutely appropriate for the kid who never truly liked fighting. And he even had an arc that addressed his need to keep in shape while also fulfilling his duties as an adult man with a family to maintain.

The tournament has been mostly disappointing because most of the fights end up being a shower of random punches and energy blasts.
But every now and then you have characters using tactics and skills from the pre-supersaiyan days, and that's just great. I really enjoyed a tired-out Goku just using the basic afterimages technique. That sort of stuff is what made Dragon Ball really fun, and in general most fighting mangas. Sure, the protagonist always wins. But if they win by power alone, it's just isn't as interesting as winning by being clever.
But I guess we're just waiting until Goku re-triggers his new power up to hit his I-Win button.

its not about being traced dummy its about how even copying its completely shit.

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So much this

Vegeta has to endure his wife saying "even goku didn't beat him" and being Bills' pet

Everytime

reddit already stole it? what about el hermano and gohan calvo?

>I hate this anime so much I think not even Gohan Blanco can save it anymore
Then don't watch it, nobody is forcing you.

>Vegeta on the other hand has some really great character progression in Super
No he hasn't. If anything, he's regressed.

>It's more Dragon Ball than it had ever been, letting the other characters have their own moments.

New transformation: Goku
New god to fight: Goku
Someone to kill Freeza: Goku
New transformation again: Goku
Someone to be at the final of the 1st tournament: Goku
Someone to be the main guy to fight Zamasu: Goku
Someone to fight the new villain in the new tournament: Goku
New transformation on the 2nd tournament: Goku


>But check this DB and DBZ refference right here, the show is so good
The only thing holding the original fans is the name and a few nostalgia scenes. The rest is shit, deep rotten disgusting shit.

>The characters aged and changed and it's absolutely fantastic that murderous Vegeta just became a happy parent that tries hard to mantain a tough exterior. Gohan being a family man is absolutely appropriate for the kid who never truly liked fighting. And he even had an arc that addressed his need to keep in shape while also fulfilling his duties as an adult man with a family to maintain.

Do you think it's coherent to put the prince of saiyans, the first guy to absolutely beat Goku in a fight in a position of constant humiliation?
>Dancing to entertain Whis and Beerus
>Beerus stepping on his head
>Beerus calling him a good pet in front of his wife
>Bulma constantly reminding him Goku is the stronger one
>Whis and Beerus constantly telling him he is Goku's lesser

What the fuck dude, this is the definition of ruining a character. The guy was pride himself and now has to deal with shit like that, no wonder every video review about Super is a negative one.


Vegeta is dead

I'm just disappointed that it adopted the same thing that made me hate the Cell Saga; putting more focus on character power scaling than telling a good story.

>that guy

>>Implying Boo saga Gohan wasn't the peak of aesthetics in the show
What the fuck did Boo saga Gohan even accomplish?

He fused with buu.

I've never seen a fanbase that was more annoyed about the main character getting to do main character things

/fit/ was right about neck width.

But old Vegeta had pencil neck.

storywise everything after Namek sucks, but Vegeta's development throughout Androids and Buu arcs, ultra ssj form, gohan ssj2 and some good moments here and there make up for it.

Would watch again until Androids arc, I don't know about Buu arc though.

buu arc is pretty great
only part of the android/cell arc that i like is when cell first appears and he's playing it coy

that many things though?
If you want an anime where 10 things happen and the main character does 10 out of them you'll watch Death Note, One Punch Man.
Why would you even bother drawing 20 characters if Goku is doing everything

would save them a lot of ink and voice acting budget

Boo is the funniest arc on the show

It was definitely the one I enjoyed the most, even with some minor plotholes

I like Cell first form but I think the story went downhill and it's where power levels became too much non sense to care.

I personally dislike Buu and is by far the worst arc in my opinion but I can see why people like it though.

I could watch Super for the sake of nostalgia but what they did to Vegeta is unforgivable.

to be fair, Toriyama didn't like Goku in the Z anime, said it changed his character too much

Super Goku is more what Toriyama intended.

Not only to Vegeta, almost everyone was ruined, but I agree he is the most serious case of humiliation

It was fun indeed but I enjoy the Saiyans and Namek's arc more. One thing that fucked the Buu arc for me was that everytime someone was able do destroy him but for whatever reason they fucked up. One time is okay but it happened like 3 times.

Re-used animation happened even in Z, it's just that Z had (generally) better looking stuff to re-use

Rest well Prince.

>look gohan blanco up
>it already has a know your meme page
>people are claiming gamefaqs made it and that we stole it from them because some faggot posted it in early october

as someone who doesn't post on any other websites it baffles me as to why someone would take shit from here and post it on places like gamefaqs or reddit. What's the point? What do you gain?

Saiyan saga: Brutal fights, alphaness at its finest, manly characters with real fights. Extremely short and poorly developed though

Freeza saga: I consider it a continuation of saiyan, but less intense.

Cell Saga: Great storyline and plot evolution. Interesting developed characters.

Boo Saga: Funniest one, you really enjoy watching it, few serious moments, you grow empathy towards the villains, relaxed atmosphere with great new characters like Gotenks and Fat Boo.

I respect your taste Satan, but maybe I'm just too edgy to enjoy the overly relaxed atmosphere of it.

Saiyan and Namek were more tense and appealed more to me. Also I liked the idea of Goku being the only SSJ and avenging the saiyans against the Freeza as the emperor of the Universe (or galaxy? can't remember).

Obviously I love Vegeta and Trunks SSJ but as a story, I think Namek would be the best end and the tense atmosphere was great (though the pacing wasn't).

The Cell arc didn’t really have a great storyline. It was all over the place and was more clear than ever that Toriyama just developed ideas as he went on. The characterization is strong but they are at their dumbest that arc and consistently make awful decisions. I’m a fan of the arc but I’m hesitant to call it “good writing.” It’s not good writing, it’s absurd, and that’s why DB is so fun

Really?
I thought Mirai Trunks was the greatest card they could have pulled to keep our interest on the show.

>Another super saiyan
>son of Vegeta
>with Bulma!

Would Freeza saga be a nice ending/ Yes, but there was so much room for more that it would have been such a waste to end there. Also, Goku 'avenging' the race he became aware 6 months prior to defeating Freeza isn't very appealing to me.

Regarding Cell, yeah, we get a little of that relaxed environment vibe, absent on saiyan and freeza sagas. It gets serious though, with hardcore training(possibly the most intense training they ever had), powering up, Vegeta and Goku interacting with their sons, I liked it.

>not even Gohan Blanco can save it

That's where you're wrong

>fusion is eternal
>only for the immortals, vegetto gets the same timespan as gotenks
>kaioshin's fusions are permanent
>nope, kibito kain is shin and kibito now
>a saiyan hair is born with him and never changes
>well, now goku and vegeta have beards
>"i'll wait for my tail to grow back" - vegeta, 3 decades ago. still waiting for that tail
>"you can't enter the time chamber too many times"
>just forget about it, let's enter it 4 more times


Super in a nutshell

>Do you think it's coherent to put the prince of saiyans, the first guy to absolutely beat Goku in a fight in a position of constant humiliation?
He embodies the spirit of post-WWII Japan. A proud nation humiliated, busying itself with domestic endeavors. Do you even anime?

are hate threads even allowed? seems like an excuse to shitpost

>a saiyan hair is born with him and never changes
You must've really hated Dead Zone where a guy lops off a big chunk of Goku's hair and it's magically restored on the next scene.

Crazy thing is we're hundreds of episodes into this and it's only just starting to marginally get good

>good
>2 frames of punches repeated 20 times over mixed with some ki blasts is a fight

pick only one mate

Yes, GT is still worse.

That has always been the case. Bulma's always been thirsty for Goku' s cock. They should have just married eachother in the first place.

>shitty animation
Z had shitty animation too and it still worked out.
>terrible story
Z wasn't that much better.
>Not even Dragon Ball anymore, more like Goku and colors
It stopped being Dragon Ball towards the end of Freeza.
>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta, now a cuck
Gohan's reputation was already trash and your shitty Blanco meme is making it worse.
Vegeta has arguably improved.

>Dragon ball super hate thread

Redundant. Every Dragon Ball Super thread is a hate thread if you ignore all the ESL spics.

>Vegeta has arguably improved.
>Z wasn't that much better.

are you a cuck or are you 9?

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Kibito Kai used the dragonballs to unfuse

That wasn't an asspull, it just makes them look fucking stupid for not thinking of it sooner

Z had it's moments of shit, but I have yet to see super reach the quality of Z's animation at it's peak.

Z had a lot of issues but Super is just horribly fucking paced.

I will agree that Z peaked during the Freeza arc, but at the very least someone else go to be the hero of at least one arc (cell)

I don't actually entirely mind Gohan and Vegeta's changes though. Peace times do this, and I like seeing Gohan develop into trying to be an actual functioning adult instead of being his father. Z fucked up Gohan more by giving him the mystic powerup, only to become fodder to buu.

Vegeta I'm a bit more mixed on, but I do like how he's developed into an actual caring father. It's a logical change for his character to make.

what about Goku hakaiing Zamasu in the manga?
totally not an asspull

being a good father is much different than being Beerus' pet, getting humiliated by everyone and sucking on a pacifier. God, not even a saibaman would have respect for him now

>Gohan fights legbot for half the tournament
>Caulifla onehits him and his two buddys in base and then goes SS2
>Goku shits on her in base
>spics claim ultimate gohan is on god level

it would've been an asspull if it killed zamasu.

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>spics

I can tell you're a spic.

>everyone who says spic is a spic

>impliying the others db threads are better
get gud paco

I'm not trying to advocate Super, but it really isn't as bad as people think either.
The main issue is that there are different directors for even the same episode, and since they're making this up themselves, Toei can't deliver meaningful fights or plot progression.
>defending anything after 1st form cell

youtube.com/watch?v=ntmOJA4mx4c

Trips confirm DBfags on suicide watch

I guess Krillin is blue level too then

this is why we can't have nice thing on dragon ball

it's power level pornography now

>gohan blanco
Just wait until we see kaifa violeta and destroy goku, negro

>Using a meme from 2015
wew

>Terrible story
Dragon Ball has always been shit, we've just been blinded by nostalgia.

>>Characters regressing into a childish behaviour
They were always like that user.

>Not even Dragon Ball anymore, more like Goku and colors
It hasn't been DB since the Sayian Saga.

>Utter destruction of characters' reputation such as Gohan and Vegeta, now a cuck
Not really. Gohan was already ruined when got outsmarted by Buu and Vegeta is arguably a better character now that his family life has been more fleshed out.


>I think not even Gohan Blanco can save it anymore
Why would that save anything?
I swear nobody in these fucking threads even watch the show.

>implying Gohan had a reputation

Since the inception of Sup Forums there's always been a site that stole and distorted memes from Sup Forums. People bitched about ebaums, 9gag and now reddit.

The solution is the same now as it was then. Ignore the people stealing shit and keep doing your own thing.

Yeah, the time travel shit got me hooked up when I watched it for the first time, and the mystery behind Cell's origin is really good and a bit detailled even if it's a bit flawed. Same as Roshi's explanation about the Red Ribbon's experiments and Gokuu's raid at their base, even if the androids were cute in the end instead of some sort of bio-monsters (and that concept with Broly looked like shit either way).