Debate me faggots
Race is a genetic construct
Lincoln Davis
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Jackson Diaz
explain this
Andrew Lee
explain what exactly?
Everything top to bottom?
Ethan Thomas
I know that pointing out anti-white double standards of political correctness is very 2013.
But think about how insane this system is: If race were truly a social construct, then anybody who racializes anybody else must by definition be racist. Because they are projecting something onto the person that, by their own belief, does not exist.
Sebastian Young
Or I should say, *by our society's own belief.
Parker Ortiz
>race is a genetic construct
>race is literally created by genes
nice one op
Brayden Foster
Explain the difference in implications of race being a social construct vs a genetic construct.
Josiah Wright
Drunken geneticist, is that you?
Regarding the topic, see pic related
Benjamin Thomas
The classifications of race are a social a construct but the differences between these races are genetic.
Jonathan Williams
OP is a faggot. Debate me you doublenigger.
Parker Hernandez
we aren't here for marxist dialectic
the former is the pet theory of jews that believe in muh environment/nurture (totally debunked at this point), the latter is the truth of the matter.
nope, that's someone else
Charles Butler
I find it humorous studies that break things down by race are becoming more and more rare as with few/if any exceptions they all show just how truly horrible niggers are in every single aspect of human life. Race war NOW!!
Brayden Sanchez
I get that, but I need the facts in order to translate it so that normies can digest the info.
Xavier Richardson
debate?...out of phase Lizards work at the Guardian newspaper, voilà.
Benjamin Bennett
I demand answers damnit!
Ayden Young
>satanic trips
well I guess the devil demands I answer you.
Essentially we have identified genes, alleles, and SNPs that belong to the various racial groups on the planet. These genetic entities can be either higher in frequency in a specific racial group, or they can be unique to a specific racial group. A good example here is skin color vs. blue eyes. We can measure the phenotypes of both, however statistical genetics is necessary to tell us about the genes responsible for skin color phenotypes, while simple Mendelian genetics will work for the eye color phenotypes.
Afaik the principal skin color alleles (flavors of a given gene) are shared among all races, what's important here is the composition of the gene at the skin color "locus" (location on the chromosome where this gene actually sits), this is what is racially delimited and gives us the phenotype.
David Murphy
>Debate me faggots
No. You are 100% correct and should be commended for your work.
Henry Reyes
just trying to bait in normies and educate the half-redpilled. Public service really.
Ethan James
Quit being so modest. You're clearly doing God's work. Have a bump.
Oliver King
Austrians (Germans) are humble and rarely commend eachother on great work since we expect it to be up to a high standard from the get go. It's an awkward flaw in our psychology, a very adversarial training method.
Thanks for the bumps.
Isaac Rogers
what this shit even means? what you're trying to prove?
>inb4 hurr durr amiermutt educaetion
Joseph Martin
Thanks. Gonna look into everything you mentioned since I'm a brainlet.
Bump 4 u
Hunter Price
>what this shit even means?
It is evidence supporting that racial phenotypes have associated racial genotypes.
>what you're trying to prove?
That race is the result of genes rather than environment and that these genes vary from race to race and that there are racially-unique genes.
Grayson Carter
Well I think everyone here agrees with you. So this thread is pointless desu. I guess we can wait around for a shill or a larper to come in here and start an argument.
Lincoln Young
Here's a quick table of words:
Gene - string of "bases" (chemical compounds), AT and CG, only one side is ever read (A and C, or T and G), resulting in a sort of binary code that is "backed up" by having a complete copy of it running along side.
U is a special base used for DNA replication (during cell division) to let the molecular machines know that its dealing with RNA for the time being.
Allele - a variant of a specific gene, this can "slot in" at the locus and various alleles can be said to be competing with one another to make it onto the locus
SNP - Single Nucleotide Polymorphism, essentially a mutation at a single DNA base pair that can affect the organism being built. An example of a particularly powerful SNP is the one responsible for sickle cell anemia, although SNPs of this magnitude are rare.
just looking to help normies along
Carter Jones
Damn. I'm learning on Sup Forums of all places. Have another bump.
Hunter Morgan
PIN AUSTRIAN THREADS
NOTICE AUSTRIAN POSTS
REPLY TO AUSTRIAN POSTERS
David Brooks
Grayson Wood
What do they mean by West Asia?Udmurts, Mari, Chuvash or people from the Levant and the Arabian peninsula?
James Bennett
Rice is a generic construction.
Blake Carter
The Levant.
Jayden Stewart
>Austrians (Germans)
You guys are genetically closer to Hungarians, who are Magyarized Slavs, than to North Germans.
Landon Cooper
Brayden Jackson
>doesn't post the whole thing
pleb. Noice flag tho
Nathan Richardson
I'm glad we agree, friend
Ryan Ortiz
you gave yourself away with "North Germans", there are two flavors of Germans, a northern and a southern one.
Aiden White
>be welsh/irish/kraut
Feels bretty ok.
Brandon Cook
>debate.
>2 posts by this ID.
Wow what a debate.
Andrew Baker
Jeremiah Morgan
Gave myself away?
There are as many flavors of Germans as you want really. The Southern ones have less Scandinavian and more Celtic influence. Austrians are more or less equidistant to Hungarians and South Germans. Depends on the region.
Brayden Nguyen
1. so what is pc1 and what is pc2
2. of course race is caused by genetics because everything is caused by genetics, it's like saying all humans are animals , it's pointless unless you can specify exactly which part of the genetic code is responsible for which racial trait
tjhat^'s all for now, let's see what u got
David Moore
citing a literal trash publication by a trash author lmfao
Anthony Gonzalez
I like this, this is a simple but comprehensive explanation of what race is.
Bentley Long
the person who drew this up literally just grouped geographically close groups next to eachother
russians are much farther racially from europeans than italians
Cooper Morales
Charles Powell
What do PC1 and PC2 stand for or represent?
Aiden Myers
yers, and what was measured?
your picture means absolutely nothing
i could literally draw some random dots on a map and post it here
wtf happened to this board
Nicholas Reed
>what is dynamic IP, the post
Jared Taylor's a great author.
>Depends on the region.
yeah it really does, and it appears as if you're defining Austrian by the 20 miles along our southeastern border and ignoring the bulk of the nation which is south German.
>1. so what is pc1 and what is pc2
Whatever the computer program decides they are. The point is to take n-dimensional data and plot it on a simple Cartesian coordinate system.
>it's pointless unless you can specify exactly which part of the genetic code is responsible for which racial trait
Question of time before we have that. The important part is knowing and being able to prove (for some) that racial differences are genetic, we don't actually need to point to the genes themselves to make our case.
It's actually based on a custom mapping of a SNP database. I will post a similar finding from a different author.
see above
Carter Bennett
FST was measured with principal component analysis.
That's what all of these are.
Charles Lopez
>yeah it really does, and it appears as if you're defining Austrian by the 20 miles along our southeastern border and ignoring the bulk of the nation which is south German.
I didn't really say anything that's wrong. The average of country is about equidistant to both South Germans and Hungarians. Obviously the people at the borders will will drift towards their geographical neighbors.
Nathaniel Richardson
saying "dats rayciss" at high volumes on the Internet will always win more social capital
Andrew Baker
proof of this wide reaching claim?
any two dots are more distant on the plot the higher the aggregate gradient in gene, allele, and SNP frequencies is, as this indicates increasing divergence between two groups.
Find attached the "European Axis" on which poo on loos find themselves.
Wyatt Torres
Robert Edwards
Great thread user. You should post more of these. BUMP IN ALL FIELDS
Ryder Miller
Where do you get these graphs from? I am Baluch and curios what other ethnic groups surround our genetic graph. Like where are Pashtuns for example.
Joseph Williams
sciencedirect.com
There are a lot of studies coming out of Saudi Arabia now as that country attempts to fix the problems of generations of inbreeding and is currently a world leader in genetic research as they've embraced genetics rather than pretending it doesn't exist.
also see here I'm honestly surprised that wikijew has an article like that, will review the sauce
Wyatt Hernandez
thanks user
Wyatt Price
dumb frogposter
Joseph Young
His names is pepe you fucking wanker
Benjamin Hall
>I'm honestly surprised that wikijew has an article like that, will review the sauce
Yea, I know, lot's of interesting stuff though and confusing connections.
Camden Young
Lincoln Ortiz
>Tfw can't read 8/10 of these charts
y-yeah guys race is genetic!!!!!
Juan Ward
>Debate me faggots
>2 post by this ID
faggots stop bumping this garbage
Kayden Green
>Baluch
Just google PCA + what you are looking for.
Here's one thing I found, but it looks like one of those made by amateurs based on online data
Luis Thomas
Culture is a racial construct.
Dominic Gonzalez
Read the thread he changed ip and kept replying.
Luke Powell
Also, download this and open up the pdf's here to see where your people cluster.
eurogenes.blogspot.com
Seems to be mostly around brahui and makrani, just like on the fist image I posted.
Thomas Roberts
naise threads thanks OP. i learned a lot
>proud Austian tonight
Benjamin Young
>when you're all out of arguments
Levi Sullivan
You have to make a full argument before someone can check its validity or soundness. I suppose not to you constructivists though.
Juan Hall
Thanks user. That was helpful. Makrani and Burahi are also Baluch and not a different ethnicity. I am a Makrani Baluch myself. Apparently we are between south asians and middle easterners genetically. Reminded me of pic related which was my DNA.LAND result.
Noah Flores
Glad to be of help
Lucas Powell
My dad always called me a bastard. Guess he was right.
Lucas Carter
>West Asia so close to Europe
Fuck off Schluchtenscheisser
Elijah Sanders
Depends on how you classify West Asia. I would say what truly defines Europeans is the ancient Siberian hunter-gatherer component.
Samuel Turner
I love geneticist osterbro, no homo
Aiden Perry
It's to some degree a social construct. Obviously the two groups on opposite ends of the maps are different but what about the obvious continuum? I noticed east Africans were left out. When you include these groups there is a continuum between SSA and the other groups.
This concept also extends to species. Species A can breed with species B and B and C can breed but A and C cannot breed fertile offspring. There is not a clear division as armchair biologists and geneticists would have you believe.
Jace Bell
>muh genetics
kinda irrelevant frankly and you are playing the enemy's game
race is a natural concept, it doesn't need to be contorted into some new context/framework like it has been to justify it, just like you do not ask your local pet shop for a dna test if you want a Labrador or whatever
Thomas Russell
EZ.
The further to the right, the more intelligent they are.
Dylan Jackson
Oh hi!
Well the whole 'genetic distance' stuff truly is rather redundant, it does not tell you more than you already know (except for some populations which truy are surprising in their ancestry). I'd rather be interested in how these populations, these 'races', have evolved and adapted to different selective pressures they had to endure in their history. This may explain the true differences between races on a functional level ... of course not many scientists dare touching that issue under the current political climate. Although we would have the means to do it...