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Have you embraced the Fourth Political Theory?
Samuel Cook
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John Ramirez
duginists are marxists
Dominic Jackson
You mean the "run off in the forest and LARP as a pagan" political theory?
Joshua Evans
What is different about Duginism that doesn't exist in fascism and Marxism?
Brandon Fisher
>duginists are marxists
completely false. The 4PT rejects Marxism. Don't conflate everything that you don't like with Marxism
Chase Walker
this
Kevin Price
firstly, the 4PT rejects the state as the center of its ideology as well as the class struggle. Those respective aspects of fascism and Marxism do not apply to the 4PT
Jacob Edwards
is it true he wants to bring about racial consciousness?
what are his plans regarding the united states?
Camden Walker
>is it true he wants to bring about racial consciousness?
racial consciousness insofar as each civilization recognizes its own race, yes. Racial supremacy, no
>what are his plans regarding the united states?
Dugin rejects the idea of the unipolar world with The United States at the top. The world should be multipolar, and the United States will have its own pole.
Andrew Roberts
is it fair to call it "anti-racist fascism"?
people are starting to bite hard for duginism. 15 years have passed. i hear a lot of people telling me "if the US gets into a conflict involving russia, i am NOT dying for zog, fuck this place." cant be sure how much of it is a larp.
3rd > 4th
Christian Butler
Dugin explicitly rejects Marxism
Jeremiah Russell
>Dugin
fucking worm-faggot
Bentley Perez
Retards unironically believe that Dugin is a Marxist because he flirted with National Bolshevism in his younger years. 4th PT is basically dialectical Hegelianism.
Jaxson Edwards
>is it fair to call it "anti-racist fascism"?
no, because there's nothing fascist about it. Fascism was a product of modernity. The fact that we are in a new era necessitates the creation of a new political system. Fascism was a product of its time. Time to try something else. Do you seriously believe demonstrations like Charlottesville actually changed anything? You would need at least a hundred more Charlottesvilles for neo-Fascists to be taken seriously. Until then they are cringy LARPers pretending to be something that they don't understand
Caleb Richardson
he also frightens neocons, which I find funny
Adrian Richardson
That's why (((Glenn Beck))) did a hit piece on him a few years back.
Eli Gutierrez
why is it Russian posters that always shill against Dugin the hardest?
Jaxson Johnson
that guy is such a hack. How he has such a large following and a net worth of over $100 million is beyond me
Mason Ross
>advocates for the use of foreign special forces on US Soil
No, but I'd gladly embrace a 7.62mm bullet into Dugins skull
Noah Sanchez
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if what beck is saying here was true i would be in for it, but unfortunately he is a retard and most of it is dogshit
Josiah Butler
how else is Atlanticism supposed to be defeated?
John Cook
James Jackson
Duganists are just globalists who want the world to be controlled from Moscow.
Austin Lopez
> 4th PT is basically dialectical Hegelianism.
So Marxism without class struggle?
Luke Anderson
how can it be globalist if it proposes a multipolar world with several spheres of influence? That's the complete opposite of globalism. You guys don't know anything about Dugin other than muh NazBol
Andrew Myers
I meant to write dialectical heideggerianism.
With that said, Hegel wasn't a Marxist. Marx just took some of his ideas and twisted them to his own agenda.
Asher Walker
>workers of the world unite
Marxism is fundamentally globalist. 4PT is not
Henry Gomez
It's not. Granted I can respect Dugin for his hypernationalist Russo-centrism, the truth at the end of the day is that his plan is and always has been the internal destruction and collapse of my country. That makes him my enemy.
I would personally kill him myself of given the opportunity.
Liam Edwards
Do you actually take the ramblings of this schizophrenic ex druggie seriously? I think we can all agree western liberal hegemony is a cancer on the rest of the world but I won't trade one form of globalism for another, even if it is traditionalist.
Jose Powell
your country its disasembling its empire itself
just one example:
your new war on "trade deficits", the us dolar is the most valuable product your country has to offer
no ammount of "american jobs" will ever compensate what you are mutilating yourselfs
Luke Richardson
>the internal destruction and collapse of my country.
4PT only has one enemy; liberalism. It just so happens that we live in the premier liberal country.
I've already explained that 4PT is not globalist. American global hegemony is the enemy, not you or I. Consider this the great liberation. All empires fall, and may live to see the fall of ours. Good riddance, considering that our empire stands for LGBT rights and corporations and not much else
Jason Gonzalez
No the reverse
Its stalinism but more racist
Isaac Brown
4PT explicitly rejects racism. Clearly none of you have read the book
Blake Scott
can you summarize it?
Nathaniel Baker
Lincoln Thomas
>t.
We have our own resources, you and Canada are leeches.
Charles Scott
>1st political theory: Liberalism/Democracy
>2nd political theory: Marxism/Communism/socialism
>3rd political theory: Fascism/National-Socialism
the 3rd political theory was forced off of the scene of history. The 2nd died of old age. The first stands unopposed and stronger than ever. The 4th political theory is simply an invitation to devise a new way of thinking that opposes the first political theory.
Ian Brooks
>russian
o wew thanks lad
russia has the most resources in the world
how is that helping the rubble m8?
see? historians will write about how you traded the global currency for some jerbs
>an invitation
so, nothing its settle
whats wrong with liberalism/democracy in duggins opinion?
for me, its the dictatorship of the masses, a hidden oligarchy
but i see nothing wrong with liberalism, why is duggin in war with it?
Jason Harris
>the world right now under 'democracy'
>well off
ok amrikki/mutt
Sebastian Baker
>why is duggin in war with it?
because liberalism imposes itself on the entire world and makes pariahs out of everyone who dares to reject it. Liberalism should be designated to the places that it arose out of, not the entire world. Russia is fundamentally illiberal
Nolan Hill
I thought this was the comped sushi guy from Vegas.
All these bearded faggots look the same.
Levi Gomez
are we talking about liberalism as political way?
or liberal morality?
because i have seen lots of russian babes twerks videos with lots of likes
if political, russia is iliberal... because its centralist? or autoritarian?
Caleb Mitchell
100% Globalism by the inventors.They gottit the dumb lefties singing the praises of the Rothschild invention to ruin everything so the Rothschilds can just walk in and take everything!
Wutta buncha dumfukkerz !
The Bible says a double minded man is unstable in all his wayz! These lil' stupid prix are double minded gender fluids.They're even STOOPITER than the way the Bible said it'd be!
Dummmmmmmmmb fuggerz!
henrymakow.com
Stoooooopit Basrurdz! Marx lubbin leftyshit maroons deserves the Darwin Award!
Ahahahahaha
Aiden Rodriguez
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Cameron Ramirez
No, because his thesis is built around the idea of 2PT being opposed to the very modernity it helped bring about.
Chase Evans
ten more minutes then I'm out. If you have any more questions, ask now
Adrian Martinez
how would dugins society work?
you only said its an athitesis of liberalilsm
Daniel Morgan
>only has one enemy
Any person that puts foreign soldiers on my countries soil is a pretty well defined fucking enemy. You want to destroy liberalism? Cool, me too. But if you put boots in my nation I support killing you. Sorry if basic concepts of soveignity are hard for you.
>Mexico
While your comment is not wrong, I take pride knowing my country will collapse WAY after your shithole does.
Jordan Ross
I need a quick rundown
What are his theories main points?
Ethan Peterson
does anyone has the translation of this? youtube.com
Carson Long
calm down, this isn't Red Dawn. It's an ideological war, not necessarily a fighting war
Austin Allen
societies would get to choose how they work, without liberalism imposing itself on said society. The 4PT isn't a map of how a society should work, it's the suggestion that the entire world shouldn't have to subordinate itself to liberalism
Benjamin James
alright, that's enough for now. I hope I answered your questions, and I also hope you learned something from this thread. Bye
Grayson Reyes
does 4pt deals with the traditional points of friction between societies?
neoliberalism kind of fixed the resource struggle (its either that or war)
what about borders? does 4pt encourages an eventual global government?
Noah Parker
Bentley Watson
Jack Perez
Chase Bell
Jacob Anderson
I'll turn him into a westaboo. Just wait. He's already tsun tsun.
Leo Richardson
Eurasianism: Rise of the Russian Empire
why are Russian oligarchs interested in the National Riffle Association and why is Dugin present?
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politics divide by uniting opposing ideas.
Charles Cox
It rejects "racism" which is defined as "based on the belief in the innate objective superiority of one human race over another. " but embraces ethnocentrism for all ethnos.
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Jose White
>1 hour
>9 episodes
>a summary
Dominic Clark
I gave you a link with a timestamp at where he talks about racism. And summerized it in the post.
Adrian Reed
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