Is there a non-cucked version of communism? I say yes. We need to bring back a masculine, strong form of communism to deal with the destructive world order. Fuck identity politics. Fight only the real enemy: the capitalist.
Leftist ideology has been infiltrated by feminism, pride faggots, traps and other scum, basically distracting us from reaching real communist utopia.
General leftist thread. No right-wingers welcome. Also fuck Antifa.
a non-cucked version can only emerge if the old ways are forgotten and the "communist" stop going under that name. In only a few short years the U.S did what it does best, they took the idea of east-european socialism and turned it into a comercial consumer product. People are still in for far-left ideas, it would be stupid as a worker not to be, they just don't like the name
Problem is western neo-marxist faggots don't want to understand this but go and protest for agrarian reforms, transgender rights, drumpf and other irrelevant things. Communism has been commercialized, this is the lowest we've ever been
You're looking for fascism (Remember Mussolini was a socialist prior to WW1) my friend, there has never been a real communist state in the history of mankind, no society ever reached that Marxist Utopia. For example, even the Soviet Union still had money, even if it was largely worthless. Communist states aren't supposed to have money, Lenin even said that a communist society shouldn't even have a state, because everything would be peaceful, there would be no crime etc. . IT IS A FUCKING UTOPIA, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL.
Samuel Edwards
get a job cuck.
Oliver Moore
Interesting post. I like the way I go from 'friend' to GET THAT THORUGH YOURTRE TICHICK SHKULL!
James Allen
Explain to me how a system reliant on the state isn't matriarchal?
Liam Williams
feminine; weak, needs the community for protection and food; highest worth is 'equality'; if everything is equal, of equal worth, what are you supposed to do, how to judge ? Leads to nihilism and death. That's the female manifestation in the political sphere.
I can't stand commies but I appreciate the effort to de-faggot your movement. Unfortunately communism has become completely synonymous with anti-white sentiment and intersectionality and I don't see you guys ever managing to go back. Maybe if you try being commies in an anti-faggot country like Venezuela you might have a chance but you'd have to know that your movement would have no chance of affecting the world at large. All communist movements in developed countries are cucked.
Luke Cruz
I would like to apologize snowman with a lot of oil, but communists really make me want to go full Breivik sometimes. Have a nice night, I hope you're not to cold.
Aaron Stewart
Not happening faggot, WE ARE ALL EQUAL!!!! Even that tranny that sliced off his dick and now has it gorilla glued to his forehead and believes he is a unicorn! HE IS YOUR EQUAL!!! WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEANS!
and if you go against that its just a contradiction in your belief.
Hey Sup Forums - attack our enemies' lack of masculinity/homosexuality. All commies are gay/furry/trannies etc.
Christian Campbell
Yes I know, you're supposed to undergo the whole dissolution of the state thing after the proletariat have overthrown the bourgeoisie and transformed society so that it won't need a state and all goods and services can be shared freely as needed. Of course, the dissolution of the state never happens because communism isn't aligned with human nature, so socialism is as far as you've ever gotten. Since I'm going off the premise that true communism is impossible, I'm saying that any and all forms of "communism" that will ever exist a.k.a. socialist/central planning systems are systems which are fundamentally reliant on the state. Since all socialist systems that have ever been tried are reliant on the state, it's not unreasonable to suggest that IRL communism is matriarchal.
Christian Lopez
The Kraut has you guys figured out.
Austin Baker
>Is there a non-cucked version of communism? Not in a century, no.
Mason Cox
I think the state even in socialism can be a good force if we ensure a homogenous and somewhat nationalist spirit. Maybe the meeting point between fascism and communism could be interesting.
Julian Powell
>All commies are gay/furry/trannies etc. FBI is gay, CIA is furry, NSA is tranny
The most simple part of communism I struggle to get my head around. Why would anybody work a harder job if they get the same pay as a person in the easiest job? What's the thinking behind that?
Carter Ramirez
Imagine being this unironically delusional
Also anyone using that piece of shit hammer and sickle flag immediately loses all credibility by default. USSR nostalgia is literally retarded.
Benjamin Moore
>I think the state even in socialism can be a good force if we ensure a homogenous and somewhat nationalist spirit Change ur flag m8, u are nazbol
Justin Foster
Tankies
Leo Jones
It's a crabs in a bucket ideology meant to keep poor people happy as long as no one gets past them and has a great life.
Robert Myers
Now that's a different point entirely and you could argue that the state could be beneficial to the society at large, but at that point as you suggested you're edging more towards fascism and beginning to move away from socialism. I really don't believe patriarchical socialist systems are possible in developed countries now; Zionists have made sure with (((institutions))) like the Frankfurt School that all modern socialist systems are modeled off of intersectionality and anti-white hatred. If you want a masculine/traditional state-run nation you're probably a fascist who just doesn't want to accept that you're a fascist.
James Lopez
Technically with true communism pay is irrelevant because there is no money, you work simply for the good of your countrymen around you because everything is equal. Of course this is a pipedream and precisely why true communism has never existed.
Luis Gomez
It’s called fascism >en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation There’s an example of corporate structure favored by some fascists. Here’s a list of why fascism is what you’re looking for. >both genders should be expressed to their fulles, traditional roles, while accomadting the 1% who don’t care as much(see German female film makers) >they believe that industry needs to be regulated enough that the good of the nation is put before profit >they support unionization via syndicalism and corporatism(which means that all people in a field are organized into one semi Democratic Union). >support for private enterprise so while plumbers may be part of their corporation (that handles negotiations for worker safety and that sort of stuff) they can still be their own boss.
Daniel Howard
Worker ownership and cooperatives are the only path forward for the radical left. Marches and protests lead nowhere, running for office in the fake civilian government leads nowhere, SJW identity politics leads nowhere, weather underground style terrorism leads nowhere, dissenting media is good but can only do so much, technological salvation is a meme, and off-grid communes are too isolated to be revolutionary.
Worker owned businesses and cooperatives are the only viable path forward because they can exist and grow under a capitalist system while also changing power relations for average individuals and communities. One is not faced with the sometimes insurmountable challenge of abandoning capitalist society all at once, non-radicals or those who consider themselves apolitical can be attracted, and there is a persistent but lawful threat to the status quo that won't simply fizzle out like a protest.
>yfw it's the exact same and the commies were really just Nazis and Hitler needed to show them the way wewlad
Anthony Young
Not an argument
Justin Jones
So it's like socialism... but it's nationalist. Huh, wonder if there's a word for that.
William Morales
>so it's like socialism like socialism and socialism are not the same
>but it's nationalist nowhere was that stated or implied
Brayden Price
It's implicitly nationalist unless you're some kind of open boarders faggot. Worker-owned businesses can't compete in an (((international))) market and can only ever benefit the nation and its people.