Homosexuality in Ancient Greece

How much was real and how much is a gay mafia revisionist meme?

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All of it was a gay mafia revisionist meme

Can't be 100% revisionism.

Pretty real. The one getting fucked was seen as feminine and submissive though, so it was mainly done to younger people, by older men.
Two manly men fucking each other probably wasn't a big thing.

Swedecuck is telling the truth. It as pretty much like conventional yaoi, where the uke is a cute girly beautiful guy and the seme is a tough strong beautiful man. Read any good yaoi, or watch a good yaoi show like "Love Stage!" you'd get a good feel for it.

I have done so for research purposes, ask me anything.

Who of the great leaders and philosophers were into it?

This hollywood garbage shows that everyone was homosexual all the time and no one had a problem with it.

(In reality it wasn't like that,)

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Proof

The Romans were into fucking, the Ancient Greeks not so much (if Plato is to be believed).

The Greeks preferred frottaging and, I think, oral sex.

They were crazy about foreskins tho, and loved the smell:

The eroticization of the prepuce is also evident in the Thesmophoriazusae of Aristophanes, where the lusty father-in-law, pressing to his face a garment owned and worn by the young and handsome poet Agathon, exclaims: "By Aphrodite, this has a pleasant smell of [a little] prepuce [ποσθη]!"14 The diminutive posthion (ποσθιον), as opposed to the standard word posthe (ποσθη), is most likely used here as a term of endearment.

But anyway, I think I'd prefer the Ancient Greek system to the modern homosexual lifestyle which is gross and decidedly unedifying. Where the Greek lover at least taught their beloved manners and how to behave in a civilised society, modern homosexuality teaches attention seeking, drug abuse and high risk behaviours (eg barebacking)

Fuck gays.

It is all 100% real, it has been documented in ancient greek gymnasiums they had problems with actual pedophilia, and sexual relations with other men, in part with most gyms in ancient greece being only nude.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

im reading a book by Kyle called ancient sport that has a whole chapter on the pederasty in gymnasiums

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It's a gay meme.
>Muh Ancient Greek philosophers used to loved sodomy
Helps fags deal with the cognitive dissonance of being defected.

Don't forget that the ancient greeks were pederasts. It was common for an older male to have a teen aged boy as a sex toy.

Aside from the sex, it was also supposed to be a mentor/teacher type relationship.

Because in reality only like 1 % of people are openly gay, at least here in Europe.
And it always was like that.
It is mentioned that someone sucked cock at some point, sure, aber homosexuality is not an usual thing.
It comes from corrupted sexuality like if you get touched by old men when you are young then you will touch kids aswell when you are old.

Sure, perversion is highly accepted in noble circles, but common people would have stoned you to death for letting their sons suck your dick.

Also Hollywood likes to exaggerate when it comes to degeneracy.

"Proof" ... common sense is enough, you cockgobbler.

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Again, that was the Romans, not the Greeks. And the Romans weren't allowed to have sexual relations with Roman citizens, they had to be slave boys or otherwise non-Roman.

The Greeks treated their teenaged lovers with respect and adored them by all accounts. They also had male prostitutes so who knows?

no you are wrong, the romans thought that the greeks were boy touchers and refuted from engaging in pedophilia, read a book called, Sport and Spectacle in the Ancient World, by Donald Kyle. It states the actual belief of the cultures by evidence and documents from the time through poetry and other artifacts as proof. your statements are baseless.

Wrong, it was common in noble circles, just like it is today with all celeb pederasten.

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Because they took the word Mentor and made it pedrast.

Its a perverse revisionism.

Canaanites and Pharisees started both boy fucking civilizations, they were known as the Sea Peoples by Ramses III's account or "mw" by historical accounts

But they're not, the Romans loved buggery and sodomy, boys who were Roman citizens were untouchable but a Roman man could fuck whatever he pleased. The Romans believed treating Greek boys with "love" and "adoration" was effeminising but not the act itself.

Don't be a rude nigger either.

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If pederasty is so bad for Western civilisation why did the Jews try so damned hard to outlaw it in every country on earth, and indeed outlawed it via Justinian and (((Christianity)))?

Greeks are subhumans

The Sea Peoples were actually a combination of Greeks, Sicilians, and Phoenicians (Hebrews). Genetically they are the same race.

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As with our own civilizations, homosexuality was an extreme taboo at first in both Greek and Roman societies. It was seen as a colossal hubris (essentially sin) to sexually penetrate another man in the Greek cities, and homosexuality could be punished with death both in Greece and the Roman Republic. However, as their societies became more wealthy and decadent, faggotry and even transgenderism became normalized. So it's really dependent on the period we're talking about, but it seems to me that normalization of these wretched behaviors are is a sign of a society near implosion.

It was the same as today. The upper class, rich people and pagans practiced it.

check out the symposium.

>women are stupid animals and are incapable of experiencing love
>the only way to have reciprocal love is to find a man that loves you
>both physically and emotionally
>have a women to fuck for having children and to beat up when angry
>have a man to love tenderly for companionship

still better than modern fag culture though.

I think that jews brought homosexuality and other sodomy from Babylon to the Greeks once the Greeks conquered Babylon.

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You know, you can have deep friendship without sucking each others cock, Shlomo.

>local nords are experts on gay porn

cry wew, and let slip the lads of war

they specifically use έρως you paranoid kraut why don't you pick up a fucking book.

lmao

makes sense your greek saying it was the romans.

>boy toucher proclares hes not a boy toucher

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dudes fucking one another back then was sort of one of those "boys will be boys" things. a lot of dudes did it when they were young and no one really cared because even gay men still understood that only women can have kids so they still only married them while fucking dudes on the side.