Normie thinks the left is practical with solutions, help me
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Hudson Anderson
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Bentley Edwards
infinitely expanding the government while not addressing it's incompetence is not practical. Thinking that more funding = more positive results is not practical. It's also the basis of every leftist policy.
Joshua Watson
The fuck has the left ever done except managing to kill a couple of hundred million people?
Ethan Gonzalez
The left has memes. The left also has practical solutions.
The right just has (((capitalist))) cock smooching.
Gavin Barnes
What could possibly be more practical than importing millions of violent rapist shitskins?
Aiden Murphy
just bring up california
Nathaniel Reed
Win a revolution against all odds and establish a nuclear superpower to strike terror, red terror, into the hearts of capitalist cocksuckers all across the globe.
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You mean what the capitalist countries are currently doing?
Cooper Harris
>left
>”practical solutions”
Then why didn’t Obama solve any problems in his 8 years?
Gabriel Butler
>conveniently ignores the infringement upon human rights under communism
>conveniently ignores that communist countries had lower standards of living than their capitalist counterparts
>conveniently ignores that the USSR doesn't exist anymore (because it failed as a state)
are commieposters trolls?
Landon Morgan
Failed Art Students...
Asking me to be practical...
Let that soak in.
Luke Scott
Once you stop making the false assumptions that the right's arguments rely on, you'll see that in this case the normie is right.
Christopher Thomas
Partly because the Republicans blocked his efforts in the Senate.
But mainly because he was too timid.
Jeremiah Wright
>false assumptions
name some
Jose Mitchell
I am the TRUUUEE way my brudda!
Connor Johnson
The right
>judging by these statistics
The left
>Reee muh feelings, statistics are racist, african americans are a treasure, borders are racist, fuck police, ahh help me police.
Evan Morris
The left has hatred and lies.
Robert Robinson
>conveniently ignores the infringement upon human rights under communism
Free healthcare and education is now an infringement on human rights? Damn...
>conveniently ignores that communist countries had lower standards of living than their capitalist counterparts
USSR had astronomically higher standard of living than Feudal Russia. Communism turned Russia into an agrarian feudal empire into a superpower. Communism turned China from a state bullied by Europeans into a superpower that now leads the world.
>conveniently ignores that the USSR doesn't exist anymore (because it failed as a state)
Leaders gave up on the vision. Cybernetics would have ushered the world into a communist utopia.
Dylan Garcia
>following the heels of WWI
>surprised when the powers are too exhausted to fight a war in a larger theatre than what they had just fought
Ryan Watson
Suggest to them that the most right wing racist wont give up their guns if it meant their most extreme views would be carried out by the government.
Every leftist, however, will gleefully give their own weapons and take those of others to implement their most extreme views.
Benjamin Wood
If the right were actually smarter, wouldn't one of you have realized OP just did a post and run, and has no interest in actually pursuing this topic.
Jackson Hall
>free """"healthcare""""
free, not good
>USSR had astronomically higher standard of living than Feudal Russia
you might have me there, people had concrete boxes to live in, but the ussr couldn't even produce enough cars for people who wanted them
>Cybernetics would have ushered the world into a communist utopia
lol okay
Charles Russell
Russia got the worst of that war. Glorious Red Army leads a Great Power nation into glorious socialism against every other country.
Wyatt Garcia
"I thought it was only theoretical solutions since real communism has never been tried"
Liam Rivera
It might be also constructive to add to a bait thread to share a view to 3rd parties to OP who might also be reading.
Its not always required to be active in your own thread if the discussion premise is thought provoking.
William Thompson
Under normal circumstances, yes. In this case, no.
Ryder Bennett
how do you figure?
Nolan Young
>free, not good
USSR had world renown doctors, scientists, and engineers. All of which were encouraged and supported instead of the capitalist class like in the west.
>you might have me there, people had concrete boxes to live in, but the ussr couldn't even produce enough cars for people who wanted them
The industry of the USSR was focused on industrialization and the military. Capitalist Russia wasn't even industrialized and militarily and technologically behind. Also, the threat of all the neighboring capitalist countries invading.
>lol okay
Yes, this is the future, especially with the development of Quantum computing. But the capitalists will never allow that to happen.
William Richardson
Really? Cause the capitalists managed to get nukes AND continue to have food for the people.
Colton Nelson
USSR had more nukes and more food. Damn... lol
Bentley Jones
>USSR had world renown doctors, scientists, and engineers
and yet they still failed as a country
>The industry of the USSR was focused on industrialization and the military
so was the US, but the US still exists and has more than concrete boxes to live in and more cars than can be sold
>the threat of all the neighboring capitalist countries invading
>e-everyone was bullying the communists! i-it's not communism's fault!
Cameron Moore
>and yet they still failed as a country
Only insofar that the leadership let the country stagnant and fail.
>so was the US, but the US still exists and has more than concrete boxes to live in and more cars than can be sold
US has millions of homeless people and millions of peopleless homes. What a fuck up of a system. America doesn't even make its cars anymore, we import our cars from overseas.
Colton Gomez
>AND continue to have food for the people
You sure about that?
Alexander Cook
Communists getting all the repeating numbers.
Communism will win.
Luke Hall
These are people that think opinions can be good, or bad. You can't reason with them.
Dylan Cooper
US was pretty damn good until liberal elites (socialists and your ilk) started importing swathes of uneducated subhumans (who abused social programs in the US) and continued to expand said social programs in addition to legislation that incentivized the outsourcing of labor
Parker Reyes
this is a potentially misleading statistic since their are far more capitalist countries today than there were communist countries then
also
>using africa in those statistics
lol, sneaky
Isaac Sanders
Why am I unable to find a single ex Soviet citizen who will defend communism as adamantly as someone who has never experienced it?
Genuine question, I'd like see it if you know of any.
Joseph Edwards
Lol you still don't get it do you reddit refugee. First, liberals and leftists are completely different. Stop conflating the two. Second, it is the capitalist elite that has been lobbying and buying the politicians out to import cheap labor. More cheap labor means more supply which drives the wages down. This means capitalists can make more profit from exploiting the working class. Instead of paying the workers proper wages, the capitalists are using your tax dollars to support the under paid workers. Meanwhile, the capitalists stash their capital offshore meaning they essentially get out of paying their fair share like the rest of the American working class. You are a fool. This is why nobody takes capitalists seriously. This is why capitalists are laughed out of universities.
Kevin Davis
Most Russians want communism back
Easton Brown
East Germans miss communism
Cooper Howard
Cameron Murphy
In fact, most people who lived under socialism want it back. Westerners even want socialism now. The only people who like capitalism are boomers. Because of the nostalgia when capitalism was actually defendable back in the 50s
Charles Harris
Christopher Johnson
if you want to fight for a system that will take away your individual liberties and freedom of expression to a soulless bureaucracy, that's fine by me. im not willing to part with them. it'll be your loss.
>defending bernie
>unironically thinking socialism could work long term in any form in the modern US
the cost of non-whites in the US is equivalent to paying another US military budget
Christopher Jenkins
>when it's not real communism until the polls say people miss it so it actually WAS real communism (even though the definition of communism being sold to gullible teens is one of "classless, stateless society" which is NOTHING like the USSR or GDR) unless opinions change in which case they will have to build walls to keep people in all over again until the retarded system collapses all over again.
Adam Robinson
There are plenty of them, USSR had it's perks, especially since majority of ex-soviets today have no longer any idea about major purges and shit that earlier sovok had.
Blissful ignorance.
And of course there are plenty of imbecile kids who bite the gommunist propaganda to this day, so there's quite enough.
Compared to what happened after collapse, they have a point. The current state has everything thanks to natural res export and that's about it.
But opinions mean nothing. After half a century, Russians are nothing but zombies with mere sparks of independent will and initiative, which is why we are so shite.
Dominic Lewis
>liberals and leftists are completely different
not in policy, it seems
just to clarify, i'm referring to modern liberals, not the founding fathers
Josiah Johnson
>if you want to fight for a system that will take away your individual liberties and freedom of expression to a soulless bureaucracy, that's fine by me. im not willing to part with them. it'll be your loss.
There is no liberty when private property exists honey.
No, it was real communism, and it was glorious comrade.
Ryan Williams
Communism was funded by international capitalists.
Capitalism has it's flaws in that it puts markets before people, but you'd have be a fool to think communism is the solution.
You probably can't even relate to a hard days work.
Do you have any footage of people explaining why they preferred it? A few articles claiming they do with a picture of a fat cat isn't very convincing.
Matthew Jones
Completely in policy. Liberals are completely against socialism.
Christopher Torres
>There is no liberty when private property exists
what, you think just because people can own land no one is free? public property exists too retard. being able to own land is an individual liberty
you also didn't address the many other violations of rights in the ussr
>it was real communism, and it was glorious comrade
>communists think killing innocent people is glorious
Christopher Parker
modern self identifying liberals are socialists
Levi Perez
>"real communism"
>a State exists
Kek, nope. Better re-read Marx bud. Real communism has never existed and is an impossible fantasy system designed by & for retards.
David Brooks
>Do you have any footage of people explaining why they preferred it?
Because capitalism has been miserable for them. So many former-soviet citizens are impoverished with no hope for the future. If you want people to like capitalism, show the people it can be a benevolent system.
Wyatt Bailey
Where do you live comrade?
I'm hungry and I need a place to stay.
Wyatt Richardson
I asked for footage.
Thomas Anderson
>what, you think just because people can own land no one is free? public property exists too retard. being able to own land is an individual liberty
You don't know what private property is.
No they believe in private property, just like you do. Both you and the "liberals" are the same. Like really, what even is the difference.
>I'm hungry and I need a place to stay.
Yes, capitalism is taking its toil on you.
What footage, the polls are there. The people have spoken. USSR was better than impoverished modern soulless capitalist hell.
Luis Long
Kikes (aka oligarchs) took advantage of "privatization" and ended up owning all the most valuable property in the former Warsaw countries thanks to outside assistance (international jewry & finance) and collusion with their friends still in the governments.
The reason life sucks for the Eastern Europeans has virtually nothing to do with "capitalism", it's because they are STILL under the thumb of the kikes and now it's just less obvious who the people need to rally against. The jews (and native traitors) have merely traded their commissar positions for corporate ones.
Alexander Sanders
>"Private property is a legal designation for the ownership of property by non-governmental legal entities"
unless you think individuals are somehow governmental entities, i have no idea what you're talking about
Nathaniel Martin
Yes because polls always reflect reality.
I want to see an interview or something written by someone who lived under the soviet regime explaining why they want it back.
You won't show it to me because it doesn't exist.
What do you do for a living? If you're a communist surely you must be a humble, hard working man.
Gabriel Collins
>No they believe in private property, just like you do. Both you and the "liberals" are the same. Like really, what even is the difference.
>i'm the same as modern liberals because i agree with them in one way
but the ussr, even though it demonstrably wasn't actual communism, was still actual communism?
Gabriel Diaz
Memes won the election. Practical solutions turned Detroit into the utopia it is today.
Cameron Perry
They dont go to the root causes of any problems. Instead they try to implement quick fixes that will fail and make things more difficult shortly after enacting them.
>college is too expensive...
Instead of asking why college is too expensive they say make it free. Same with healthcare.
>Crime rate is too high
Instead of looking at the decline of American households they want stricter laws.
>housing costs too much
Instead of figuring out the root cause and attacking that, they just opt for government subsidized housing.
It goes on and on. Tbh my biggest gripe is the way they write off basic economics that allowed this country to flourish in the first place, for some stuff theyre just making up as they go along, and normies dont realise because they dont teach economics in school anymore.
Ian Davis
the only practical solution for the modern left is throwing them from helicopters
Jordan Cooper
practical racism
Ayden Turner
The left has resentment, and are easily manipulated by the deep state.
Josiah Anderson
Whats your excuse for the first few years they owned house and a super majority in the senate you memeflag faggot?
Logan Stewart
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Here you go, knock yourself out.
*Destroys your helicopter with a Soviet made SAM*
Heh, nothing personal cappie
Easton Cook
There wasn't a single point in that video
You didn't answer my question.
What do you do for a living?
I'm an apprentice electrician myself.
Easton Green
1. Unironically bring back Communism in Russia.
2. Relocate leftists to Russia.
This is a good solution to our problems.
Jayden Thomas
the left has memes they just suck
John Richardson
Left has no solutions.
Every leftist statement is "resist" "drumpf"
"not my president" "still with her"
"mueller time" etc.
Not one snippet of anything constructive
is to be found in any leftoid rants.
Prove me wrong.
Kayden Bailey
>starve 100 million people to death in the 20th century
>"practical solutions"
The only real solution is the final solution.
Nathan Murphy
Here watch this video since you seem to be interested how capitalist russia is different from communist russia
Lincoln Thompson
Whats practical about denying biology and importing 3rd worlders to destroy your own culture?
Jose Roberts
>He doesn't even work
Adrian Kelly
I'm finished arguing with you.
Wyatt Ward
Here is a party program of the Communist party of Russia:
en.wikipedia.org
This is literally Sup Forums
Cooper Turner
wow what faggots
Colton Diaz
utopian fantasy is a thing because utopia, i.e. an absolute, is fantasy. natsoc asslicker
Isaiah Turner
Just look at literally anyplace they're allowed to infest public offices. Yeah the right governs some shitholes too but if you look at a place like rural Mississippi it's a better place for the average person now than it was 50 years ago, can any Democrat say that of their enclaves?
Hudson Rodriguez
I work but it doesn't matter. This isn't about that. This is about the future. I just hope you open your mind and think about this. It isn't as clear cut as you might have thought. You could be able to do what you want and enjoy the fruits of society and not have to be stuck in an anxious stressful ever expanding unstable system.
Jeremiah Johnson
Says the lame leftist meme...
Adrian Bell
>"practical"
>you won't get the ADL and SPLC getting you fired for doing what we say. Therefore you must do what we say.
Nah. They ADL and SPLC is currently frying under the harsh rays of public visibiliy that online communication created. Their lives, those like them, and the anti-white policies they hold in place will continue to erode
Benjamin Richardson
>utopian fantasy is a thing because utopia, i.e. an absolute, is fantasy. natsoc asslicker
Idk, you tell me : )
Don't give up on the future, never lose hope comrade
Kayden Rodriguez
I have met several people from russia and italy that left to escape communism, and when they experienced 8 years of obama they were starting to have panic attacks that they could not escape it
Gabriel Stewart
its probably a moral relatavist neo liberal pushing the "but why is it bad tho" ad infinitum fallacy
Hudson Hall
worst leftist meme ever
Carter Torres
>Practical solutions...
Such as, and to what problems?
>w-well b-ban guns and hatespeech
Make everybody criminals for nothing, got it.
Noah Diaz
Fake and gay.
Grayson Sullivan
>leftists being this mad they don't understand the formula to a good joke
Why are city living pavement apes so retarded?
Jackson Morales
Bitching ad nauseam actually does work. So does losing your shit completely.
A few days ago, my neighbor’s friend died, and she sounded demonically possessed for about 2 hours. What sucks is, she quit after 2 hours. She was SO CLOSE to bringing her dead friend back to life. Hell, even another 30 minutes of hell-tantrum might’ve been all that was needed. But she stopped, so I guess it’s too late now. Obviously, she didn’t really love her friend enough. But she could have. But I know what I witnessed. And I learned a lot.
So remember:
1) Lose all self control
2) Don’t stop until you get what you want;
3) Keep going until you die
Noah Myers
>Confirmed for definitely not having a job
Mason Hall
Ok I have to admit this song is good. Did you make this? What is the story behind it?
Why would I espouse socialism if I didn't work or want to work?
John Wood
Because real socialism allows you to not work or do shit
Blake King
Free shit bruh. Everyone else does all the world and you reap the benefits...kind of like a business owner without actually having done anything.
Jaxon Garcia
solutions?
lefties need the final solution
William Russell
No, real socialism allows everyone to participate in socially necessary labor. Just because of the lack of surplus labor, work is more efficient meaning people can work shorter hour days. I don't know what you think socialism is, but it isn't what the fat boomers on fox news are feeding you lmfao.
James Hughes
Whatever you think it is, it surely isn't real socialism, since you claimed the USSR was real socialism
Henry Murphy
So socialism is free shit. Is this the extent of your understanding on your opposition. Damn, I don't have to do anything then, your own ignorance is doing all the work for me.