When are you going to learn japanese to watch the anime you love user?

When are you going to learn japanese to watch the anime you love user?

Who says I haven't already?

I tried taking a Japanese class but I gave up because it was difficult and I didn't care enough to put in more effort

Depressing story

I'm too dumb.

Currently learning other languages I plan to use in the future.

Story of your life, eh?

Daily reminder

It's listed as the single hardest language for native english speakers anywhere you look up
You literally can't learn japanese

It is pretty easy to learn how to read and comprehend japanese though.

I never understood this. Sure, the kanji is a pain, but the grammar is pretty simple compared to shit like German with its three "the"s and long-ass words.

Is Animegataris worth watching or is it just a Poor Man's Genshiken?

But I'm already watching anime.

I'm on it user, a couple years in, but still a long way to being fluent.

It's futile and we're all going to die

I have a genki book literally within grabbing distance from me but I am lazy.

I took a Japanese class like eighteen years ago, then decided to take JLPT N4 on a whim. After that, now I'm disappointed in that if I had kept at it all this time I'd easily be fluent by now and could watch all the animes.

How old are you user?

>when you know chinese so kanji is already second nature

If desire to learn was all that was needed, I would have done the same, and been able to tell others to just learn it themselves.

Why did they make it so friggin hard?

Because nearly all of it comes out with English subtitles within an hour of airing in Japan already?

Old enough.

Watch it and you'll find out.

>learn japanese
>get into popular kusoge
>find my waifu, love of my life, reason for living
Learning japanese was one of the best things I've ever done desu.

毎日頑張ってるがJLPTがもうすぐ来るからテンションが上がってるな

I'm trying my best, dammit. Stop taunting me.

I'm autistic. Just getting English right is hard enough. I still fuck up tenses a lot of the time, forget about foreign languages.

I don't get it. Like how can anyone even learn japanese? I mean how did even natives managed to do that? There are literally thousands of kanji that usually have more than one reading and you gotta learn how they read within thousands of words. I never understood character based writing system it's such a stupid concept. For those who somehow managed to master this language to decent or above level, how long did it take to reach level? I want to at least give the language a try but the retarded concept of kanji is big daunting wall that's stopping me

Kanji looks impossible until you actually start learning it.
It's just a character that's supposed to convey a meaning to you not unlike objects you always see in your daily life.

Kanji having multiple readings isn't a problem, it's the ridiculous number of kanji that sound the same.

Is there any videoplayer that can enable me to pause the video and copy subtitle directly from the screen?

I am, I already know nani, baka, nandayo, onii chan, imoutu, aho and KYAAAAAAAA

Why do you think Japanese people spend their entire lives in school and do so much study grinding?
They grind the kanji and it takes them decades.

I'll do it tomorrow

What would you rather read/write? 3842 or threethousandeighthundredfortytwo?

At least kanji are mostly constructed using radicals as building blocks, and there are (relatively) fewer of those. They just go together in various combinations. 曜 is an early-grade kanji that seems tough at first glance, but split it down into 日, ヨ, ヨ, and
隹 and with a bit of practice, it's routine enough to use every day.

But that just increases the opportunity for puns.

>It's listed as the single hardest language for native English speakers
Why didn't the U.S. just force them to speak English after bombing them? I remember the Japanese emperor was even willing to ditch their "god", and to worship whatever the west did, because that was the eastern tradition. It wouldn't have been a far stretch to just ask them to start speaking a reasonable language. Besides, their shit is pretty much not even a language, they just "draw" thoughts like uncivilized savages that draw hieroglyphics, that's why they need so many chicken scratches to describe every-day shit. Today's generation probably would've been thankful they wouldn't have to learn all that ridiculous shit they do just to communicate

Is there goddamn anywhere that does radicals first because it drives me nuts going in JLPT order and looking at some crazy thing and it's like "hey here's the radical this is made from" and having no idea what the fuck that is either. 　

If only they looked as simple as numbers. Most of those Chinese characters look like cluster of random chicken squiggles even if you say they are composed of radicals. I'd rather learn a couple of alphabets than those thousands of characters

Doing in JLPT order is better anyway.

I turned off subs once and realised I could actually understand most everything they were saying
verbal Japanese is easy but I won't bother with their arcane runes

I've been studying 30-60 mins a day for the past 5 months and japanese is fucking bullshit. Will take me 3 years at this rate to understand most speech.

Aren't they already required to take English classes and have English questions on their entrance exams? That's kinda close.

all animu worth caring about gets good subs though
I'd rather learn russian to watch all the underground russian kino

It's still the same concept. If you know the characters it's easier to read than writing systems based on pronunciation. That's why like everyone uses those arabic runes for numbers.

>Why didn't the U.S. just force them to speak English after bombing them?
Not only is that nearly impossible, but occupation forces ditched a lot of plans for a lot of other political reforms and let a lot of business and military leaders off the hook so they'd be more willing to cooperate against emerging communist sentiment in Asia.

...

and yet the average nipponese still can't speak or even comprehend english above a 3 year old's level

>learn japanese to watch the anime
No thanks, I learn japanese to play porn games.

I am considering it so I can read the countless webnovels that aren't being translated (fast or intelligible enough)

Memorizing vocabulary alongside 30 other people when your teacher can't even speak the language for shit won't get them anywhere.

I've met some teachers who are really good, but the further you get from major cities, the worse the teachers get (in terms of ability; most mean well).

>曜
I know you understand it, but just step back and analyze it from a neutral perspective. That's not even a language, that's some drawing to represent "things", that's why they need to memorize so many different "drawings" to describe the world, similar to how the Mayans drew shit in little squares to document their lives. That kind of nonsense has no place in the modern world (sorry to offend you if I did)

Yeah, but that's because aside from tests, they have no real need to use it daily, can get along just fine not using it, and lack of practice makes lack of perfect.

Rolling in there and saying "No more speaking Japanese. Everyone speak English now." would have been harder than it sounds, even with an uncontested military occupation.

>I'd rather learn a couple of alphabets than those thousands of characters

I think you're really undermining the complexity of the English language. Besides, unless you have the mental capacity of a second grader or a learning disability, I doubt you read every single letter to understand the meaning of a word.

You spell out word every time you think of them in your head, do you? You have the words, as well as all the rules on how to use them, memorized.

Yeah i get the concept. Just tell me which looks easy to learn and write 世界 or せかい. I don't think that analogy of yours works well with Japanese. Most of the time kanji can be written down using one or two simple hiragana or katakana alphabets Whereas there's simple 3 to replace three.

I'd find 世界 easier to read. At a certain point of kanji learning, you prefer having them because it lets you know you got the right word as opposed to the wrong word that's spelled the same way.

All-kana is a fine way to start off, but one has to move onto solid food sooner or later.

I live in an east euro shithole, we rarely use english in our daily lives but most people younger than 30 know the language at least at a basic level and college students are generally know it fairly well by default

Japan must just have shit language education

onyomi is homophoneland
kunyomi is inconsistent and can be long
it's more convenient to get the inherent meaning directly from the word 世界 instead of relying on a sound in your head

I don't know shitposting on Sup Forums is part of your daily life. Japan has a strong enough media market of its own that they don't have to resort to sucking anglo cock to stave off deadly levels of boredom induced alcoholism like you do.

It's never too late. There is no age where learning stops.

Teaching english=/=general proficiency
A language is for communication. It has meaning because it is read and spoken, and receives a reply in kind. One can certainly learn fundamentals, grammatical rules, syntax, vocabulary, and so on, but it is a great leap from there to understanding and being understood.
The Philippines, one of the best asian countries for english language proficiency, is where it is because english isn't simply a school subject, but something you're actually supposed to talk. University education is almost entirely in english. Western movies are shown without subtitles, unless it's a french film, in which case the subtitles are english. The laws are in english, which unfortunately functions to shut the poor out of legal knowledge.

Be honest lot of people learning Japaness just to start watching anime with original dubs. And lot of people use it in normal life, for example i have holydays in japane and i thanks god learn japaness

I did user and I did it in two months. I set out to learn nip so I could read Negima raw while everyone else waited weeks for Aquastar to get things done.

Watching anime and learning japanese at the same time using Japanese subs is the best way to go.

Is there a place to get closed captions aside from Kitsunekko?

So the losers are a group and the cool people another group.

>japanese subs
W H E R E

>All-kana is a fine way to start off
Kana is for first 2 days.

On the import blu-rays.

>tfw you're not a dirty EOP

There's kitsunekko.net to get sub file.There's also streaming sites like animelon.com that stream anime with Japanese subs where you can select the text on screen and use rikaisama or something

I was going to take Japanese classes.

But then I visited Japan, and that desire seems to have disappeared. I still watch tons, I just don't give a shit now. At least I can understand the gist of what people are saying.

Idk maybe some Chinese sites like kamigami

This.

I've tried learning german and japanese, and moonspeak is way easier.

Deutsch grammars sind ein pain in the ass whereas japanese is extremely simple.

Animelon is pretty good but it doesn't have a lot of shows. Makes me wonder why sites like crunchyroll aren't providing that service. If they provide japanese subs for currently airing shows i would definitly get a subscription.

>There is no age where learning stops.
if death is close, what is the point of putting in the effort

>Chinese girl at comiket

Is this China pandering?

I've been fighting that battle for over 5 years, on and off.

At first (after memorizing hiragana and katakana) I tried playing unlocalized games and browsing boards on futaba, while consulting a kanji radical identifying tool online to figure out the ones I wasn't familiar with. More recently I went through the 2k anki deck cards. I've mostly stayed at the same level though. Being able to get the gist of most written Japanese I come across, but probably not enough to give an accurate translation.

They learn kanji all the way through high school. That's 12 years of learning kanji. They don't learn it all in a year. Just look at you and English. You don't even know all the words.

Are you planning on dying within the year?

I started 5 months ago. On a week long hiatus of Anki decks because I'm feeling burnt out.

I only understood the first half.

>There's kitsunekko.net to get sub file.
this is not a reliable source, unfortunately.
Raw providers should include Japanese subs from TV broadcast...

Fuck flash cards. Just read shit. Then reread it. Then read something else. Then re-reread the first thing again. Then reread the second thing. Then find a third and a fourth.

I've always thought Chinese was supposed to be the hardest for native English speakers, followed by stuff like Arabic and weird language isolates like Korean and the Basque language.

Start playing games completely in Japanese. Get Nintendo 3DS and read 12 sai, i'ts pretty easy. Flashcards is a bullshit.

never

I'd suggest Akage no An books. It's prose, it's written at a level for kids to read but it's not overly simplistic like tiny young toddler kids' books, it's got helpful furigana, and occasionally includes manga-type illustrations.

>Gave up learning Spanish in high school
>Gave up learning French in college
Started moon a few months ago. Think I'm doing alright.
I don't even watch that much anime anymore, it's just the only language left that interests me.
I refuse to be an EOP.

How many hours have you spent watching and reading poorly translated Japanese media though? Just admit that you're lazy, there's no need for any other excuses.

Sure, where can I get these books?

maybe 5% of the media i consume is not my native language

Well, i had 5 hours per week of english classes and i also studied 1 hour per day by myself...it took me 7 years to really become fluent, but i still make a lot of mistakes.

I began learning japanese this year, but this time i'm not taking any classes...so instead i'm trying to study at least 2 hours every day, i don't think i will get anywhere near fluent in 3 year though...maybe you can get to jlpt n2 in 3 years if you break your back studying.

Normally, many people besides japs don't have to. Even if they do have to "suck anglo cock" they get all their "worthy" things translated or dubbed so they don't need to learn anglo creole gibberish for good if they don't fucking want to. On the contrary, anglos stumble and fall all over themselves as they try to convince peoples who speak languages with over 100 million speakers, no matter how irrelevant their language is, about the "relevance" of English for their careers and wathever, but in practice, those individuals just can go through life without uttering a single word of anglospesk since it has no practical use in their self-contained environments.

You're better than me, since you're still actively trying.
>gave up on Latin in HS.
>Learned a fuck ton of Russian in a special summer course before going to college on Uncle Sam's dime.
>Had to drop out of that college because it was a Senior Military College and I injured my ankles during orientation week.
>New college doesn't have Russian, pick up German instead.
>Drop that from lack of interest.
>Try to pick up Russian again after college
>Drop it again from lack of motivation.
>Want to pick up Japanese and give Russian another try, but I know I'll probably drop them both.

Saging for blogshit.

It's like it takes an avg human 12 or so years to not sound like a child or something. You're complaining about 3?

>7

Seht euch diese Schwuchtel an und lacht.

German is fucking easy-mode compared to russian.

Basically any Japanese bookstore, Amazon.co.jp would work too. Might have to be specific to get these particular editions, but Anne of Green Gables is one of those things that will never ever be out of print in Japan.

>23
>Life-Satisfaction

And I'm just sitting here being depressed