Socialism is not the problem, U.S. economic sabotage is.
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U.S. Led Economic War Tearing Venezuela Apart
Lincoln Morales
William Gonzalez
What's the matter? Run out of other peoples money to spend?
Caleb Perry
You country is afraid of socialism working; therefore, it has to sabotage it.
Levi Murphy
Christopher Williams
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Luis Thompson
shut up
Jordan Cooper
Fuck off, your shithole nation is sabotaging another because they don't want the world to know that socialism can work. If people knew socialism could work, then the bourgeois class would be frightened.
Asher Garcia
You have to be a special kind of retard to not see the ruination socialism has brought upon a country that should be swimming in wealth.
Daniel Mitchell
Are you blind? U.S. imposes heavy economic sanctions on Venezuela.
Noah Richardson
Fag thread
sage and move on
Joseph Wilson
And it should be filthy rich regardless.
Jackson Diaz
Why would a socialist country need others? isn't the premise that you will work together producing what is necessary and distribute it equally? everyone should be thrilled and happy.
Samuel Rivera
retards who suck jewish american dick and think in a politically tribal manner
Thomas Morales
every country depends on international trade moron
Anthony Diaz
Just goes to show you the Capitalism (USA) beats (Socialism)... why because Commie shit never ever worked, in any form.
you need to go on a helicopter ride
Kevin Perez
Nicholas Howard
This should be obvious just by being alive and watching things happen in real time.
But the disinfo campaign has fried the population brain.
Brandon Taylor
>Socialism doesn't work when a large capitalist country sabotages a tiny socialist country.
Literally you are retarded.
Levi Phillips
Isn't this the same shit Lenin said when he was starving millions of peasants to death?
Jonathan Collins
The 1000 years of the big and powerful USSR sure are great
Gavin Cox
"I want my free stuff, now! I don't want to work for it!"
James Rodriguez
So, the whole nationalizing your country's resources (which was your country's primary source of income) and giving it away at cut-rate prices to your people didn't have anything to do with the inevitable collapse?
Bentley Robinson
do you live in a socialist country?
probably not.. you live in a capitalist society... if commie shit is so good and can work right why are you not there helping your fellow retards become great?
Luke Evans
holy shit you have to be trolling.
Joseph Scott
Yeah, that's why we're posting on Sup Forums.
Idiot.
Dominic Johnson
>The proven oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 297 billion barrels (4.72×10^10 m3) as of 1 January 2014.
kys
Blake Ramirez
Just came back from the border, holly fucking shit this is bad, venezuelans on every corner asking for money, and its spreading to every city.
Whe have been in a fucking war for 60 years but we have never been as and as venezuela, fucking commies
Brayden Perez
And even now venezuelans come to work here and colombians come to sell drugs.
Benjamin Collins
Stop buying drugs and they will leave you mapuche leftist cunt
Nolan Roberts
Fully educated venezuelans vs low life drug mule colombians.
What would you choose?
Cameron Turner
Socialism didn't work when the USSR was a global superpower, either.
Luis Nguyen
Columbians. Less chance of voting for commies in their new home.
Venezuelan "refugees" are just scorpions begging for some nice frog to save them before the frog they stung to death sinks below the river's surface.
Thomas Morgan
Untrue.
It is literally math.
Chavez made a massive system based on oil, the price of oil dropped to half, half their money went away so their social programs collapsed and they had to raise taxes and print money with produces masive inflation and a downward spiral.
I have live in several Commie countries and I am in one now.
You don't know anything.
Sebastian Evans
You are choosing with your fee fees then and that's pointless.
Nicholas Smith
The price dropped "for reasons".
Tyler Perez
This is a good thing, better for the world we just let this happen, not like it can get any worse for them
Leo Fisher
You are absurd.
Qaddafi was a great leader the USA and NATO took out.
Chavez was a piece of shit.
Logan Sullivan
Elections are based on fee fees, dumbass. Imaginary social constructs require imaginary tools, just as real world constructs require tools that operate under the laws of physics.
Henry Smith
Communists actively sabotage that, so it must not be important for them.
When a Communist whines about "economic blocks", it just means that people somehow tend to stop doing business with thieves.
Christian Lewis
A socialist country can’t thrive if the Us sanctions them? What a great system
Jaxon Roberts
Not my neighbor! OH N- who cares?
Christian Thompson
Are your aware that Mexico is a net importer for corn? You literally don't produce enough corn in your country.
Benjamin Brooks
>Doesn't understand markets.
Yes the price dropped because sand fracture drilling and other forms of drilling flooded the market causing opec to drop their price to compete.
You commies have such a childish view of shit.
The Venezuelan government is the biggest cause of their own problems.
The US could embargo and fuck with them but look at other countries the US has fucked with like NK and Cuba, embargoes attacks of all kinds, and cubans aren't dumpster diving for food. NK has low crime.
Venezuela sucks because of Venezuelan leadership.
inb4
"DA BIG BAD GAPITALIST AMERICUNTS FAULT"
Elijah Wilson
Weird how this oil price drop only had an effect on Russia and Venezuela whole leaving the economies of Saudi Arabia and Norway intact. Almost like the price itself mattered very little and had more to do with politics.
Liam Cooper
>steal all foreign property in your country
>complain foreign countries don't do business with you any more
lel
Connor Ortiz
BTFO lol
Luke Allen
Russia has been doing incredibly well in terms of growth etc. during the entire time that Venezuela has been chimping themselves back to the stonage, stop being silly.
I know a bunch of Venezuelan and they blame maduro and chavez because they aren't retards.
Have you ever been to a communist country?
Noah Parker
You can vote the non famous not all day in the television candidate no one stops you but your fee fees, fyi
He was all that and he also was Venezuela's business partner.
Venezuela did fairly well during the Chavez age until Gaddafi got killed by NATO, unless you can justify killing Gaddafi I'll have to assume it was done to stop the alternative to the petro dollar, which killed venezuela.
Jeremiah Flores
Yes, and Russia just a couple years ago had huge budget issues when oil dropped, only because of US led sanctions. They're growing more because oil had stabilized. I'm not saying the Venezuelan leadership shouldn't be replaced but to blame it on the economic system in place is internally dishonest.
Ryder Turner
Christopher Perez
>I'm not saying the Venezuelan leadership shouldn't be replaced but to blame it on the economic system in place is internally dishonest.
except socialism is completely the problem in venezuela, they could have survived the drop in oil prices like every other country instead things got severely worse
William Lewis
Go pay your TV license Mohammed, and stop posting on 4chin before the police get you for hate thought crime
Benjamin Cox
There is no reason to believe so
Alexander Rivera
oh yes, just a coincidence that no other oil dependent county is doing as poorly
Jonathan White
>Openly proclaim your intention to destroy capitalism
>Capitalism imposes sanctions
>Collapse happens
>Complain about capitalism buttfucking you
Talk shit, get hit faggot
Andrew Phillips
PSUV slowly and steadily pushed away markets and consumerism. This is what they got in its place—a Cuba, only way worse.
Venezuela's problems are not because of oil prices. Oil prices are double where they were two years ago. Even when oil prices were outrageous, Chavez bemoaned Venezuelans buying cars and getting breast implants. It was all too decadent, even then, and Chavez was the equivalent of the pope; the national watchdog over "the cause," in which the cause was adherence to a righteous ideology that no one has ever lived by, except for maybe some tribes hundreds of years ago before there was such a thing as a refrigerator.
Venezuela's problems are not because foreigners have abandoned her. They're there when they are allowed. Goldman Sachs was a PdVSA white knight. China and Russia state-owned enterprises and lenders, as well.
It's not because of the CIA, Maduro's favorite boogeyman. Washington doesn't control the economic policy-making decisions of PSUV.
source: archive.is
Brody Fisher
holy shit why didn't we do this to the USSR?
Isaac White
It's not dishonest to blame the government for thier woes. Venezuela used to be a productive realitivly wealthy country less than 2 decades ago. The only thing that changed is you got an authoritarian regime that runs the economy. You can try to blame the US, but we haven't done anything different in a decade, hell king nigger was even friendly towards his fellow travlers
Josiah Long
Okay.
Yes sanctions embargoes etc can hurt a bit, I never said the didn't
Think about this:
If you get a job making 50,000 a year and you take out loans and spend outside your means and then your hours get cut in half or you lose your job and have to work for half, and you steal your family's belongings and continue to spend and accumulate debt?
If your family doesn't want to drive you to work or live under their roof, is it their fault?
IF they built their system keeping in mind it was fragile, they would haven't had the problem, you either don't undertand the topic, or you don't understand economics.
And Subway was business partners with Jared the Pedo, that isn't an argument.
Qaddafi was God tier, Chavez was shit tier.
Venezuela did well when the price of oil was artificially high, they built it on a literal bubble, the bubble popped now they're fucked.
Accept the failure and follow better.
Elijah Miller
The main complain was that capitalism was ruining our countries (true to this day with haitian migration).
He saw an alternative by siding with anti jew/anglo countries, Syria, Lybia, Iran, NK and Cuba.
This worked until Hillary killed Gaddafi.
Lucas Smith
Yes, there are.
Because Norway and Saudi Arabia had an economic system different from that of Venezuela.
Jaxon Wilson
Yet you ignore my post where I point out that Russia felt the same effects of the price drop which can be directly attributed to the sanctions put in place. All countries rely on trade for things they cannot produce in enough quantity: Mexico imports corn, China imports soy, etc. With the sanctions put in place it hinders the country's ability to get the items they need. It's also worth pointing out the hypocrisy at play here. The USA is upset over Russian interference in the past election whole actively interfering with Venezuelan politics though these sanctions.
Ayden Foster
The companies producing nukes needed more $
Asher Morales
You are conflating government and economic system. Even in socialist countries there is a distinction.
Leo Hill
Socialism relies on capitalism ?? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Owen Clark
>Yet you ignore my post where I point out that Russia felt the same effects of the price drop which can be directly attributed to the sanctions put in place
Russia was never close to being in the same situation when oil prices fell
>With the sanctions put in place it hinders the country's ability to get the items they need.
except even the things they do have they can't produce anymore
Dylan Roberts
Get off the chins and go prep muhammed so he can properly bang your wife, Limey.
Adam Johnson
Lefties always rely on gibs.
ALWAYS
Brayden Wilson
Juan Diaz
Russia's budget was shattered, this was very big news when prices plummeted a few years back.
Hudson Lee
Elijah Lopez
Ok , Venezuelan girl from WhatsApp posted these in her status the other day. I can’t read Spanish well but the pictures are self explanatory
Jose Richardson
Boy in the street
Noah Turner
True
Robert Adams
>Russia's budget was shattered, this was very big news when prices plummeted a few years back.
Russia was never close to being in the same situation when oil prices fell, ex. constant power outages, food shortages/rationing
Carter Gutierrez
For the above photo , there is no food in the groecery stores .
>but muh sanctions
Then why the fuck does President Maduro arrest people bringing food across the Colombian border ??
Also, this photo is a man dying of hunger field dressing a stray dog in the street
Oliver Price
Venezuelan Government is extremely corrupt
Venezuela is not a place anyone wants to live, unless you are government, thug, or military, that is why there is a diaspora happening.
So long as Maduro can feed his military, he will keep Venezuela right under the thumb of perpetual poverty, while a small select few live like kings.
The chavismo philosophy has convinced the Venezuelan people to trade their limited freedom for even less. All while hating the american capitalists that have ruled south american wealth, they do not realize that they have given all the power and wealth to the new government ruling class, who have successfully managed to squander the vast wealth that Venezuela sits on.
It's a truly shameful thing, seeing what was once a fairly modernized country, by south american standards, be run to the ground in such little time. My only hope is that someday the people wise up, but I doubt that since the poor are merely puppets.
Tyler King
Venezuela has the largest gold reserves in the world , and even if your stupid comment was economically accurate, then why doesn’t Saudi Arabia fall since the price of oil is low?
>Not sure what this pic is, something in Venezuela though
Nicholas Thomas
In the same way as Russia also Saudi Arabia and United Arab emirates had their budgets affected due to the fall in the price of a barrel of oil.
independent.co.uk
Julian Harris
LET US SEE THAT LEAF
Joshua Sanders
Yeah boy.. the evil yankees again right? Go fuck yourself disgusting baizuo, you don't know shit about latin america politics.
Leo Evans
They started shit. We wanted to be friends. But they wanted to play at "Bolivlarianism" or some such stupidity. It's on them now. Fuck em'.
Bentley Harris
Don’t let the media fool you. I’ve met MANY Venezuelans , they all hate Maduro and Chavez.
At one point , in the late 90s , I’m sure they loved him.. but I’m not sure.
But NOW, 85% of the population hates socialism. The other 10% is the military (which you’re spot on about) and the other 5% are his cronies
Grayson Myers
>Venezuela has the largest gold reserves in the world
nope
>and even if your stupid comment was economically accurate
it is
> then why doesn’t Saudi Arabia fall since the price of oil is low?
socialism is shit
Cooper Campbell
Quick, someone post that wiki screen about how the US makes up about one third of Venezuela's trade.
> the US are undermining our socialist dream!
> they're also our biggest trade partner
Christopher Harris
You’re 100% a CIA nigger
Jaxon Nelson
This is far from the reality in Venezuela.
The military is also suffering due to the economic crises caused by socialism and most people are totally against socialism and chavism, even the poor
Levi Rivera
> help! our biggest trade partner is undermining our socialist dream!
Noah Gonzalez
This might help
>pic related
>GDP is 371 billion
So basically you need to do the math. It’s not hard to figure out Pablo
David Cruz
Here's what it sayd, screenshot is cropped, so certain words come out of context.
"Thousands of venezuelan children at risk of death by lack of food and medicine in Venezuela caused by the ____ of the world.
>Open the "Humanitarian channel" now! Venezuela is dying of hunger!
>...the ingestion of dog meat. Hunger doesn't wati, we have to survive
Connor Morris
>This is far from the reality in Venezuela.
The military is also suffering due to the economic crises caused by socialism and most people are totally against socialism and chavism, even the poor
ah. apologies for misconstruing, I was not aware the situation is that bad now. ive got family in Barquisimeto
Adrian Brooks
but...its more communists.....
Hudson Bennett
Is it "ante la mirada del mundo"?
Nathan Reyes
Yeah while Chavez’ $20 billion dollar daughter is sucking Justin Bieber’s dick
Grayson Jones
Not really, they all hate socialism now.
Which it's understandable because they got ruined by it, what they can't see or just like you don't want to see, it's how the world banks can ruin countries with sanctions and some military actions.
Jason Perez
I have family in Barquisimeto too
The situation has actually been much worse than people can imagine.
Jaxon Walker
>Telesur
Sage
Logan Perez
>Thanks based Texas
Here’s a decropped version
Charles Reed
And I don't feel bad about it at all.
Carson Sullivan
I see, it would be something like "In front of the world's eyes" then