Dragon Ball Super

Why is it so hard for people to believe that he could be stronger than God of Destruction?

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Why is it so hard to believe that Kefla is stronger than Goku?

Why is it so hard to believe that there's no way for Goku to win against Jiren?

> Potaras are alowed and almost everyone has a pair
> Goku will beat Jiren with Ultra Instinct (combined with Super Saiyan or Kaioken)
> Jiren will fuse with Toppo
> Goku with Vegeta
> Vegetto Ultra Instinct will beat.....idk....fucking Jipo
> Something something angles
> Frieza fucks everyone over, maybe even gets rid of Zeno
> Either Goku will fuse with Jiren or Vegetto will double fuse with Jipo to defeat Super Ultra Mega Frieza

It will be retarded as fuck. Screencap this

The same reason it's hard for people to believe that OP is a flaming faggot.

even if he can overpower a god of destruction I don't believe he can pull off a win before the fusion wears off

Can Beerus just literally use his god power and say "destruction" and instantly obliterate anything from existence? Sure maybe in an actual fist fight goku can hang but beerus still has his god given power to literally speak a word and destroy.

>vegito being smug while tearing freiza a new one
I want this

APPARENTLY

>he could be
>COULD
He's stronger. No doubt. Even if Goku was only a 50% of Beerus, that still means Vegetto can obliterate it since Vegetto is dozens times stronger

>mangastream
end your life

Base Vegito >= SSB Goku so SSB Vegito is thousands of times stronger than SSB Goku.

>not reading a good translation and then saving top quality scans from MS

>good translation
end your life

>top quality scans from MS
end your life

Son Gohan is beautiful!

I'm talking about the good translated ones and the good quality ones as two different scans, user

>good translated ones
>good quality ones
end your life

No, he's an ugly, balding cuck.

Considering that U7 recruited a villain like Frieza... in your opinion and based on motivations, origins, attitudes or even design, who do you think is considered a hero and who do you think is considered a villain in each universe?

Keep in mind that being considered a hero doesn't make you good and being considered a villain doesn't make you bad... Frost for many years was considered a hero in U6 but in fact he's more evil than Hit, an assassin.

how does goku gain stamina by fighting/beaten up? from freeza's small energy; he somehow gained enough strength to go kaioken super sayian blue.

Are you into gods or are you a furfag?

SS4 has better design and makes more sense, but I like God too.

He's so dreamy.

Gohan is easily the most pathetic member of U7 at this point. Completely outclassed by at LEAST 9 other character. Highlight of his tounament is literally hiding under a rock. Roshi has had more of an impact.

What a fucking joke.

he hasn't even left base form mate

I know rite?

>that one Gohanfags starts posting pics about Caulifla getting hit to feel better about his husbando jobbing for decades

>samefagging this hard

>I like tumblr hair
lol

>frieza steals potara and fuses with jiren
holy shit...

Why was Super saiyin green kale able to tank a SSB Kamehameha, but then SSB goku was able to fight SS green kale and SS2 caulifla?

Soon

because it wasn't a powerful kamehameha?

Because Super is trash.

Goku didnt use SSB's true power until he fought Jiren. All the times before that was him holding back to a degree.

See: One of the kaioshin stating "He finally decided to show the power of Super Saiyan Blue." despite it being used several times before.

yeah except for all that time he's spent in super saiyan 2 and the time when he already went mystic. Just chilling in his base form yup

>no proof
lol

Did you even watch the show or are you larping?

Why did Jiren not bother to knock out Goku but took the time to physically remove Hit from the Arena?! What kind of Ass logic is this?! Why does Goku have to continue on? Is Toriyama completely incapable of growing the side characters or is he just that stubborn? Does this series have to always revolve around Goku? Why is a character like Tien horribly developed in comparison to his earlier version in the original Dragon Ball? Why can't Krillin be more relevant? Why is Master Roshi more relevant than Yamcha?

He's been fighting the Double Dose Team the whole time in his base form and doing fine, saved Goku with Piccolo from getting anally wrecked after his fight with Jiren and also saved Piccolo again. He's doing fine.

>still no proof
lol

Anybody watched Light of hope?

There is simply no way to rationalize him NOT being stronger than a God of Destruction.

Kefla JUST served as a reminder that yes, the potara fusion indeed is powerful as fuck, moreso than SS God.

fuck off

It must be hilarious ignoring the fact your waifu is so shit that a tired base Goku was overwhelming her even as she was in her Super Saiyan 2 form while he was tired and in his regular state.

epic post bro

>Caulifla is a mary sue!
>Caulifla is a jobber!
>Caulifla is getting stronger too quickly!
>Caulifla is so weak she's losing to a tried base goku!

So this is the power of american autism.

All the GoDs are literal furfags though except for Heles who is just some "alien" despite looking human and the robot.

1. Who are quoting?
2. So this is the power of a spic being ass mad his waifu is garbage tier.

>literal furfags
Being a literal animal != wanting to be portrayed as an animal.

>1. Who are quoting?
Epic /jp/ meme bro, almost looks like you have an argument.

It seems the destruction "energy" can be resisted (Freeza did it), so probably not.

woah... so this is the power... of mental gymnastics...

>Why did Jiren not bother to knock out Goku but took the time to physically remove Hit from the Arena?! What kind of Ass logic is this?!
Is part of his plan!

>Why does Goku have to continue on? Is Toriyama completely incapable of growing the side characters or is he just that stubborn? Does this series have to always revolve around Goku?
Because when he tried to make Gohan the MC, people got mad!

>Why is a character like Tien horribly developed in comparison to his earlier version in the original Dragon Ball?
Because nobody cares about Tenshinhan... and I'm saying this as a Tenshinhan fan.

>Why can't Krillin be more relevant?
He's relevant... in filler episodes, he's also Goku's best friend, even if he isn't relevant he will always be there.

>Why is Master Roshi more relevant than Yamcha?
Because Yamcha is now a joke and somehow Toriyama remembered that Roshi is possibly the best martial artist in the world, too bad he didn't help against the saiyans and other threats.

>Epic
Sudoku yourself at once, sub-human.

>h-hehe i called out his use of "epic", now noone will remember I got BTFO

Who are you quoting?

As I understand it, Hakai seemed to be a form of magic granted to GoD's for easy wiping. But if we have to include Toyo's absolute fuckup in the manga, I suppose it's rather a ki technique you can learn.

But, as with all "magic" bullshit in the DB unvierse, it can be resisted if your powerlevel is high enough. The same reason being turned into candy did nothing to Vegito, why Goku nulled Hit's timeskip, and why Jiren was able to break through Hit's time freeze.

Goku back then was 8, Beerus 10 and Whis 12. This is probably some gods power level counting thing where number represents the number of zeroes youd need to put behind your power level, making angels like 100 times stronger than GoDs which seems quite plausible from what we have seen.

This would mean that Angels are still far beyond Gods of destruction or anything in the tournament or they would simply steamroll everything there.

>Goku was still able to cause some serious damage of Whis but people were surprised when he managed to graze Jiren.

Doesn't this bother anyone else? Or is Jiren even far beyond angels level

soon

Friendly reminder not to race-mix.

When halfbreeds are considered filthy, what are humans?
>tfw you will never have a halfbreed offspring with Kefla

youtube.com/watch?v=UpH9kfF-U4g
I want to tickle Zeno

Hybrids are the strongest and are another plot point forgotten by Toriyama, Gohan is just a bitch that would rather study than become the strongest.

Friendly reminder not to stick it in smelly alien women.
But we still have Future Trunks whose better than the thots.

It wasn't forgotten, however half-breeds potential means nothing because they are cucks by nature and thus will never train unless forced to by their parents.

They have the strongest orgasms.

Caulifla is:

> non-invincible
> gets beaten and bruised
> tries their hardest but still doesn't
> requires teamwork from someone stronger (Kale)

This is the not what a "Mary Sue" looks like.

> but she achieved SS so easily!

She already had a high base stat. Renso (former Captain of the Sadala Defense Force) suggested that Cabba pick her over himself. She's already considered one of the strongest Saiyans in U6.

Do you people forget that:
> Vegeta's SS transformation was filler
> Future Trunks achieving SS through Gohan's death was a Toei creation? He had SS as a kid already in the manga
> Goten and Trunks achieved SS as toddlers. They don't even remember activating it when they were 7-8 years old...meaning it happened WAY before.

> it's not about having a high base stat!
Then what is it based on? Simply learning how to achieve SS? Then every weak Saiyan from Planet Vegeta and Sadala could've achieved SS.

Every Saiyan from Planet Vegeta had every reason to be angry enough to become SS due to being enslaved by Freeza.

Goten and Trunks learned it easily not only because they are Saiyan-hybrids (so is Gohan), but because they are part of the "tail-less generation". Guess who also doesn't have tails? The U6 Saiyans.

> but muh tingles!
Just a meme way of saying to "focus your energy". This was suggested by Cabba, and later confirmed by Goku that focusing your ki was an alternate way of achieving SS.

In martial arts, there are three Dan Tian/Tanden (energy centers) that ki goes through. The middle one, where the tingly feeling is on a Saiyan, is specifically the EMOTIONAL CENTER of ki flow. Super Saiyan is a transformation related to very intense emotions (such as rage).

I think you're confusing Gohan with Vegeta.

The following things have been 100% factually confirmed of the average Caulihater

- He's your typical uncultured, illiterate, race-mixed mongrel American subhuman (Untermenschus Burgeritus). It has been confirmed that U6 saiyans are liked everywhere else around the world. (Japan, South America, Europe)

- He has no legitimate reasons for disliking Caulifla. He will pretend that he does, but it will become increasingly obvious that they are just excuses and fronts to make it appear like he's being objective. The Caulihater overall just hates them for what they are (female, anorexic bodies, personality, etc. you name it).

- This causes extreme cognitive dissonance in the Caulihater, which is why they are so irritable and butthurt all the time. They call her a mary sue and a jobber at the same time, complain that her powerlevel is too high and then laugh because she's much weaker than Goku.

>Freeza and Vegito are the last two people in the ring before time runs out
>There's barely anything left of the battlefield
>Vegito passes out and Freeza throws him out
>Freeza's going to get his wish
>Tenshinhan reveals he could make one more clone who has been hiding in the rubble this whole time
>Tenshinhan can never beat Freeza 1v1 so he destroys the remaining ring and Freeza falls out first
>His wish is to bring back the other universes. But Zeno immediately erases them again because he still doesn't want to look after 12
>Tenshinhan wins the Tournament of Power and still finds a way to job

>ONLY GOKU IS ALLOWED TO BE FIGHT-AUTISTIC
>ONLY VEGETA IS ALLOWED TO BE COCKY
>ONLY GOTEN AND TRUNKS ARE ALLOWED TO EASILY ATTAIN SUPER SAIYAN FORMS
>ONLY GOHAN IS ALLOWED TO HAVE POTENTIAL AND REACH NEW HEIGHTS WITHOUT TRAINING
>ONLY ROSHI IS ALLOWED TO USE ITEMS
>ONLY 17 AND 18 ARE ALLOWED TO FIGHT AS A TEAM
>ONLY GOKU AND VEGETA ARE ALLOWED TO USE POTORA
>ONLY VEGETTO AND GOTENKS ARE ALLOWED TO BE SMUG FUSION CHARACTERS
>ONLY JIREN IS ALLOWED TO BEAT UP GOKU
IT'S NOT FAIR, GUYS!

Reminder that Android 18 is beautiful and has more KOs than Kale, Caulifa, and Jobhan.

I don't get Toriyama's intention. He nixed the idea of Marcarita and the clown GoD being lovers because an angel must be neutral, right? Then why did he greenlight Mojito and Cus? They're too angels that aren't neutral at all.

How the fuck did sprain her ankle?

After the episode where Cabba got eliminated and Toppo confronted Vegeta, the directors did a livestream Q&A.

During the broadcast they said that:
> "goku will get back to ultra instinct sooner than fans think" and that "Vegeta hasn't even begun to get serious"."

SOON?

...

>potora

Gohan posters and Caulifa posters should just get a fucking room at this point.

>"Vegeta hasn't even begun to get serious"."
SO IT WASN'T JUST HOT AIR
THE BASTARD REALLY IS HIDING SOME SHIT?!?

Let me guess, Sup Forums doesn't like Light of Hope either? Too normie? Let remind you Dragon ball is one of the most normie franchises in anime history. And don't tell me Light of hope is shit when super is a wet pile of shit itself

Vegeta hasn't fought anyone other than total fodder. Toppo is his first real fight, but since the plot demands all the focus be on Goku and Kefla, we hardly get to see that fight.
I do think Vegeta will get UI, but not until after the ToP

Freeza tortures caulifla

Waifu fags: OMG toriyama is so sexist. Violence against women is never acceptable. FUCK DBS!!! REEEE

>normie

Yeah imagine my shock when the Vegetafags were actually right.

the problem with waifufags is that if their female character got beaten up like a male they would throw a hissy fit. "OMG how could spopovich who is pure evil beat up videl so badly?REEE"

>fuck Yamcha
Also all the characters had their moment to shine. The fact is that nobody likes Tien and Krillin went out after his tag team with 18. Roshi had a couple episodes of him being badass. They all had their fights and then left. They are outclassed by other fighters. If they were still in you would be bitching about power levels and shit. They all contributed and got ring outs. They all had their moment of cool.

I honestly can't wait for based Mereidth to voice the ToP.

Are you constructing your strawmans in advance now?

It won't be UI, but I bet it'll be SSB2, or something like Ultimate SSB. Whis said Vegeta thinks too much and Goku gets careless (read: isn't always thinking), so UI's freeform, natural movement is fit for Goku but not for Vegeta. Something like an enhanced SSB would fit Vegeta more if it requires significant mental stamina and endurance to maintain.

Haven't seen it yet. Hope it's worth the ridiculously long wait.

The Tien episode was the worst episode of the ToP.

Idk. Had to do something to reduce her OP-ness I guess otherwise pepsifag would have gotten blown out.
>happens off screen
I'm disappointed Toshi.

What?
Kale getting tortured was what made me waifu her.

> saying "normie" is too normie

its not a strawman when videl and spopovich proved it. When napapa held up kale the autistic screeching began "Omg rape"

I was pissed pepsifag was daring to throw a punch at this beautiful work of art. Why is Toei trying to make 18 gimped?
>taken by surprise by Shosa
>off screen injury
The fuck?

She is trash. Female characters should stay at home being a housewife for a real fighter, like Videl does.

Where were you when people were supposedly complaining about "omg rape"?

You sure you aren't just projecting? Or imagining imaginary scenarios for whatever the fuck reason?

Base Vegito >= SSB Goku

Can't wait for SSR Gohan in about 10 episodes

i was laughing at the idiots complaining about it. OMG female fighter getting beaten up! Reeee!