Juni Taisen

>Bull/ox horns
>Dressed as a spanish matador
>Is a genius killer
I really like Ox's concept, but being the number one contender so clearly since the beginning means he won't win. My money is on rat.
Which one's your favorite?

My favorite was chicken before she was swiftly murdered.

I was surprised at the way she killed dog. He was a grade A moron.

I was losing interest in the show episode after episode and i finally've been spoiled the ending and god damn is it shit.

Chicken's design is stupid.

>No pockets
>Has a cloak that will make noise as she walks
>Carries a pitch fork as an offensive weapon but never uses it
>Has feathers covering up her privates

Sexy to be sexy and not practical in the least.

>Which one's your favorite?

>Combat veteran who has seen hundreds of battles
>Quick on his feet and loves setting traps
>Already won a Juuni Taisen by just fucking off and blowing up the entire facility
>Only doing this to protect his grandchild
He was marked for death in episode 1 and died betraying his own ideology. Shame, in a better series his death would have been cool and not an anti-climax like so many others in this show.

Shit character that had no right to represent the Sheep family. Honestly him winning the last tournament was the dumbest thing I seen in the show. Spend at least a few minutes giving context instead of showing some half assed way to kill off 11 fighters.

He didn't kill 11 of them, we only saw a couple through the windows. They most likely formed a team and got betrayed by him

> Carries a pitch fork as an offensive weapon

Except it's only real function as far as we know is to give her better control of the birds.

No...he destroyed the entire station. We can assume he killed off all the fighters in one blow. He even tried doing that in the beginning of the current Juuni Taisen.

Face it the old man is a hack of a character and they needed to diversify the cast so they put in the "old master guy". Glad he got wrecked in a quick fashion.

He got killed by best grill though.

> but being the number one contender so clearly since the beginning means he won't win.

It's clear from the first episode that the characters were going to die in order of their zodiac, in that case, Ox comes second, so his praise isn't really poorly earned, Rat's power is just fucking broken.

What is his power, anyways?

>Honestly him winning the last tournament was the dumbest thing I seen in the show.
I can fix a lot of things, but shit taste is not one of them. Sheep and Papa Boar had the right ideas, set the stage in your favor and kill your opponents as efficiently as possible. No reason to fight a bunch of super-powered killers when you're floating in a tin can in space.

I'm betting on boar

he is raiden

O
MY
HUNDRED
PATHS
He can experience 100 choices at any juncture and choose the ones he wants to progress down. he basically played hundreds of Juuni Taisen's trying to figure out the best path for survival.[]spoiler]

He can see 100 different realities of every decision he could make and pick the one that is most favorable.

Hands down the most stupid power in the show. No other character even remotely comes close to this level of brokeness.

She needs a weapon if her birds are dead or she can't access them, hence the fork. Stop being a retard.

Oh wow. I guess it makes sense then that his wish his to forget everything.

> Hence the fork

We literally see her use it when ordering the birds around, just because it CAN be used as an offensive weapon doesn't mean that it's the #1 intended use.

As it is, she's generally fucked regardless of what weapon she has if it comes down to close combat, since she's obviously geared more toward subterfuge and ranged combat with her birds.

No way the family will only allow her birds as her main weapon. Nope. She was adopted and groomed to be a fighter for years and so damn right she was trained in closed range combat using the fork.

>arguing about Chicken
It doesn't matter how she fights because this series is so shallow to begin with. She has a pitchfork because of her animal theme, we'll never know if she could fight with it because the only ability of hers worth showing was her birdemic power.

The one I wanted to win:
Chicken

The one I figure will win:
Monkey, after hearing each person's story she's going to win and then bring everybody back to life as normal people as a "good ending".

Would be neat:
Rat, since he's the lazy one

Why carry the pitchfork and face it toward Ox if her birds were dead? If she only had her birds as her only offensive weapon then why not use hands?

Face it the fork is there because it can help guide the birds and she can use it to kill enemies. It isn't fucking rocket science.

Nice.

>This mad over their waifu getting killed off
>Acting like I care about her combat potential
Like everyone else in this series she gets one cool moment, some backstory, and killed off as soon as those two points are covered. She could be a master quarterstaff fighter for all I care, she still died without using the pitchfork as a weapon so it will forever remain speculative.

Relax dude, it's not that good a series to get this invested in.

>if her birds were dead
Because it still is a weapon? And not all the birds were dead.

I like tiger for no other reason than her slutty outfit.
I was hoping monkey would win though, but of course she wasn't going to be the one. I think Rat is a safe bet to be honest. But who knows, nobody would fucking expect it to be tiger, aye?

Please show me where in the story we're told that.

She's obivously been trained to use firearms, but it's obvious that even if she WAS trained in close combat she could never hope to beat the fucking masters that are in the juuni taisen, the bird attacks were her main ability, secondary abilities to compliment that were her manipulative skills as well as the bird surveillance network.

And, as I said before, we literally see her using the fork to help her control the birds somehow.

I won't relax until that retard who said and I quote

>Except it's only real function as far as we know is to give her better control of the birds.

my only point is that it is a fucking weapon and she knows how to use it. Thats it. I don't give a damn about anything else until that dipshit swallows his shit and accepts his defeat.

>164758062

Jesus fucking christ the whole of my post was that it is weapon. Learn to read assfuck.

> If her birds were dead

They weren't, she just couldn't use the swarming attack again so soon after boar because the birds weren't hungry enough yet, so she says.

Also, like I said, it's not like she couldn't use the fork as a weapon, but thats clearly not it's main purpose, and generally speaking she's fucked if she is forced into close quarters combat in the first place because she's weak as shit physically and relies 99% on her birds and her manipulative skills.

She was also under the influence of one man army when she fought Ox, so it's very possible she would never use the fork as a weapon under any other normal circumstance and would rather just run away.

Luck if they are going by zodiac traits.

> she knows how to use it
obviously not.

Literal autism. You fucks love to argue over semantics far too much.
>as far as we know
Is the key part of his sentence, we never saw her actually fight with the stupid thing so we don't even know if she actually does know how to use it. Which is a pointless argument in and out of itself since tridents are effectively a fancier spear which are the single most basic weapon in human history that even a child could use.

You stupid dipshit. My original point was this

She has no pockets and can't carry any other weapons on her retard. So please tell me how she can take on close combat fighers if her birds were dead. Not only that who is to say there would be enough birds in the city that strong enough to rip human flesh? How do we know the tournament organizers didn't kill off every single sentient being in the city?

To many goddamn variables are in place for chicken to just have her birds as her only weapon. Hence where a little fucking inference goes a long way. We see her taken in by a family who wants to win the tournament and clearly she is trained. Why the hell would they not train her in weapon combat using a fork? Think. Use her fucking head. If her birds are down and an enemy is coming at her. then she could at least use it to defend herself.

ALSO SHE FACED THE FORK AGAINST MONKEY AND OX. SO CLEARLY SHE CAN USE IT.

Fuck off and stop wasting my goddamn time.

Literal plot armor

>He was a grade A moron
Agree.

>I won't relax
>stop wasting my goddamn time.
You can literally close the tab and move on with your life instead of sitting here getting mad over a girl in a chicken costume.

>nobody would fucking expect it to be tiger, aye?
Tiger will die in next two episodes. What the fuck are you talking about

Are you serious? Boar and Monkey have slaughtered hundreds of birds, rendering her army of birds a pultry some of what she had in the beginning. Her army was useless at this point even if they were fed.

No no don't try to slither out of what you said you retard. You said "Except it's only real function as far as we know is to give her better control of the birds" so don't know try to say she can use the weapon.

I don't give a damn if she is fucked if she has to rely on the weapon, the point is she is trained in using it besides bird control.

OX AND RAT EPISODE 12 SWORD FIGHT AND RAT WINNING
THIS ANIME IS SO UNPREDICTABLE
AMAZING WRITING
AOTS
AOTS
AOTS

Semantics my ass. He knows what he said and my point is that you can use that brain of yours to infer that a tournament of highly trained killers has more than one fighting style. Bird control and pitch fork prowess. Stop wasting my goddamn time with this stupid shit.

You idiot. Comparing a rank amateur wielding a weapon to a weapon's specialist who can master its movement. This is like comparing pre-time skip Zoro to Mihawk. Yeah any assfuck with half a brain understands how to use a sword but are they effective in using it?

Her outfit is the best. If it was just the tiger print underwear it would be alright, but the leather jacket on top of it is top tier.

Why does this show not feel like something written by nisio? I am a nisiofag and I am bretty disappointed.

Jesus user calm down, I doubt your time is that useful if you can argue freely about some crappy chinese cartoon on Sup Forums.

> if her birds were dead.

Again, they weren't, she basically had them on standby since they needed to be hungry in order to do her bird/piranha attack, which she just recently used on Boar.

> How do we know the tournament organizers didn't kill off every single sentient being in the sky?

What? Birds aren't sentient, and we already saw her use the attack on boar earlier, the announcer guy said at the start that he doesn't care what methods they use as long as they get the jewels, so using birds wouldn't be considered illegal.

> To many goddamn variables are in place for chicken to just have her birds as her only weapon.

What, as opposed to the guy who only has a sword? Or the lady who only has guns that you don't need to reload? Overall there are a fair few combatants whose matches would be really horribly one sided if they were matched up together, so I don't see why Niwatori was at such a disadvantage when she had what were basically a flying death swarm, really good manipulation skills, and a city wide surveillance system, being able to use a pitchfork or any kind of melee weapon definitely seems like it would be pointless to her since she's weak as fuck under normal circumstances.

Only real reason she would hold it up against Ox is A) She's out of it with drugs that make her want to irrationally protect someone even though she had no bird back up, and/or B) Since she had super strength due to the drugs, she thought she might actually stand a chance in close combat and the fork was the only thing she had, either way, she couldn't even react at all to Ox's attack, let alone use the fork as a weapon with any degree of competency.

Monkey didn't even see the birds until Niwatori was already dead what the fuck? Did you even watch the show ? The birds Monkey was fghting were the ones killed by Boar.

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Like Fruit Basket all over again.

Are you even watching the show?

Seriously, how the hell did Sheep lose to this?

Don't know if not caught up or... cause monkey is dead

This thread is terrible. People arguing over a dead character's weapon being used or not.

Age made him experienced, but soft. So he took her at face value and understimated her. Drunken fist was too hayai for him.

Why did they adapt this?
They could've gone with Zerozaki, it's way better.

> Monkey

Monkey only killed birds after chicken was dead.

> Rendering her army of birds a pultry some of what she had in the beginning

There were still enough left to completely consume her?

> It's only real function

Yeah, notice "REAL" there, you COULD use it as a weapon, but that's not its intended purpose, for the third time, we SEE her using it to control the birds better, and as it was, under normal circumstances she is physically weak, she's basically in the same boat as the sheep guy in that once she gets found out she's at an immediate disadvantage, since her main strength is ranged combat and being undercover, if it gets to the point where there needs to be a physical fight, she's already lost, the only reason she thought she had a chance against Ox with her fork was because of the drugs.

So is everyone just going to continue to underestimate rabbit?

First Boar, then Monkey, now Tiger! How many of my waifus is this asshole going kill?

I mean, he might have won even if he was dead already if Rat wasn't so OP

>which she just recently used on Boar.
This was her biggest mistake honestly. Boar was a shambling zombie and Chicken has the best tracking ability in the tournament second only to Snake. Why she chose to remove what essentially had become an environmental hazard instead of saving her trump card for someone like Ox is beyond me.

>nisio
He is a hack

Boar was also and environmental hazard though, as long as she still had Non-reload she was just a walking disaster to anyone around her, Bird definitely should have avoided her for the time being, but as it was, someone needed to take her out.

>crappy chinese cartoon

Gtfo you don't belong here.

>Again, they weren't, she basically had them on standby since they needed to be hungry in order to do her bird/piranha attack, which she just recently used on Boar.

Fantastic another variable to include as to why having her birds as her only offensive capability is asinine.

> the announcer guy said at the start that he doesn't care what methods they use as long as they get the jewels, so using birds wouldn't be considered illegal.

My point is how do you know if the Birds will be there huh? Remember's sheep flashback when they were fighting in a spaceship? It is a variable that is very important to consider.

>What, as opposed to the guy who only has a sword? Or the lady who only has guns that you don't need to reload? Overall there are a fair few combatants whose matches would be really horribly one sided if they were matched up together, so I don't see why Niwatori was at such a disadvantage when she had what were basically a flying death swarm, really good manipulation skills, and a city wide surveillance system, being able to use a pitchfork or any kind of melee weapon definitely seems like it would be pointless to her since she's weak as fuck under normal circumstances.

Again I don't give a fuck if it is pointless and if other people have better weapons, she clearly can use it as a main weapon.

>A) She's out of it with drugs that make her want to irrationally protect someone even though she had no bird back up

She held out her pitch fork against Monkey and Rat as well as Ox. This isn't a coincidence. She can use the goddamn weapon.

This anime is basically stupid people fighting over to see who is the least stupid.
The winner is still stupid as fuck, but he is so much of a Gary Stu he can still win.

>So is everyone just going to continue to underestimate rabbit?
Pretty sure the zodiac signs tht are known to be smart are going to catch on.

What else is there to talk about?
Story? AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAH

>Winner of tournament is gary stu

Jajaj wait until you see how this shitshow ends. I am sure you know the winner but how he wins it is the icing on the cake.

Ox dies though

>rat is broken
what even is his power? what can even defeat Ox's thing?

Yeah, but he is my favourite hack, and this feels like nothing written by him.

'91 fags mad as hell

Should have been born in the year of the Ox baby.

>He even tried doing that in the beginning of the current Juuni Taisen
You aren't even watching the show are you?

>but as it was, someone needed to take her out.
That's not wrong, but Chicken basically had a one time use hail mary and blew it on a target that she only needed to keep an eye on for the time being.

Especially at the time where she hadn't gotten softened up by monkey, she knew about Rabbit, and Ox was still at large there were a number of more important targets she should have moved on to.

> Fantastic another variable

It's literally what's said in the show, if you don't like it at that point it's just your opinion.

> How do you know birds will be there

She didn't, same way fucking tiger would have had no way of knowing that she would be able to find alcohol, she would have been fucking useless otherwise, but we don't hear you complaining about that.

> She can clearly use it as a main weapon

Except it ISNT her main weapon, the birds are, her thing is 'killing by pecking' not 'killing by pitchfork'. Like I said before, it COULD be used as a weapon if she needed to finish someone off, but as it is, the birds are her main weapon and the fork is used mainly to control them more efficiently.

Her being weak under normal circumstances DOES matter a fair bit considering that, in a fight, even if she DID know how to use the fork, which we are never shown, she would still be absolutely wrecked, so it's pointless, her main advantage is the birds, secondary advantage is her surveillance network, third advantage is her manipulative skills, that's more than some of the other competitors got.

> She held out her pitch fork against Monkey and Rat

Any idiot can stab someone in the back while they aren't looking regardless of whether they have training in the use of that weapon.

>what even is his power?
Foresight

His power is being able to see 100 different timelines and being able to pick the one he likes best, in this case, he picked the only timeline where he survives the tournament, he beats Ox and Tiger by blowing them up with Sheeps explosives, at the behest of Ox himself since he and Tiger find out that even when Rabbit is dead his zombies stay alive and they get overrun

Remember rats have killed more humans than every war combined

Oh I thought that was Ox's. Guess I misread.

no question that Rat is going to win in the end, probably with some stupid shit after Ox kills everyone else.

Please spoil me on what his wish is. I hope it's to revive everyone.

I think he considers it, but in the end his wish was to forget about the zodiac wars entirely.

>Please spoil me on what his wish is.
We never see his wish and there is an entire manga chapter that was released separately where he agonizes over what to wish for.

To forget about the tournament and never fight in another JT again

To forget about the war so he can join the next one without any prior experience

If you are going to spoil at least get stuff right

He doesn't see the realities, he experiences them and can choose the one he wants


>he beats Ox and Tiger by blowing them up

He doesn't beat Tiger, Tiger is already dead, killed off by Ox. Her dead body isn't even present at the scene. He beats Ox/Rabbit/Monkey by blowing them up with sheeps explosives.

I worded rats thing wrong, but yeah I get that he lived them.

Didn't know that tiger was already dead though, I was only repeating what I'd heard in earlier threads.

The oneshot manga is basically a gag manga about someone denying a bunch of wishes and the punchline is that he wishes to forget the whole wish thing since he can't decide.

Since the LN doesn't actually say what the wish is, I expect them to change it.

Rabbit kills Tiger before he commits suicide.

I think it'd be more fitting for the anime if he wished for dreams or whatever the original line was, just generally wishing for some kind of meaning in his life

he premise of the oneshot manga also ties nicely into rats power so i hope they at least follow it to the ending

Do they all get revived at the end? Tiger can't die without a happy ending

_____nope

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Hes gona choke to death on ox Dick, edgy fujishi appealing character for faggots.

> Bitch killed monkey and damaged those big mellons

the first to die was snake tho, and snake come before dragon not at the first place which is the hog's place and she died 2nd.

Watch episode 5 again, speedwatcher.

You could always not talk about anything and let the thread die.

Why couldn't he cut himself free, I don't get it

AND OF FUCKING COURSE HERE ARE THE TIGER FAGS
AS SOON AS SHE WAS INTRODUCED I FUCKING KNEW THAT YOU FAGGOTS ON Sup Forums WOULD IMMEDIATELY CLAIM HER TO BE BEST GIRL
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People have called her best girl from the start you retard.

I still miss Boar, since i am boar too (at least her father won last time). But i like Tiger so far. She is funny.