>be Jesus >plainly say that rich people cannot be perfect and thus will not enjoy the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 19:18-26 or so) >be catholic church >declare apostolic poverty to be heresy >this is the belief that the rich cannot be perfect and thus will not be saved >burn and massacre thousands >hahaha! >say your magic words and go on your way, fatcat! >modern christians rebuke the moral influence theory of atonement in favor of mystical christology that has 0 to do with Jesus words >probably not even know about psalm 82 >"oh my god pslams are beautiful i am a christian now" I want to take it all apart. I want to sell each and every piece. I want people to actually endeavor to make themselves perfect, which Jesus did a la psalm 82, to show us how it is done in practice. The death of Jesus is not the main part of the story. Men who live sin. Jesus lived perfectly, and went out perfectly, to show us how it was done; to remain with us forever. Christology is the poison. You would actually submit yourself to Jesus but not honor the ritual that he held so dear? Submit yourself to God. Your father. Read psalm 82 NOW. Who is with me? We must study.
(NIV for maximum understanding) A psalm of Asaph. 1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”:
2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?[b] 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.
2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?[b] 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
>A question to the reader >An order to the reader --act in the vein of God, for you are of Him >DEFEND THE FATHERLESS
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
>'gods' are people >we all are capable of rising up to be great leaders, great wise men to whom all look to for knowledge >people could look to any of us and call us 'lord' >but we are just men >and we are incredibly limited >the best-laid plans of mice and men... >but we have the capability to tear it all apart and destroy everything
Bentley Lopez
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”
YOU >YOU >YOU >ITS FUCKING YOU, user. >YOU ARE THE CHILD OF GOD This is what Jesus quotes when he is surrounded by Jews carrying stones, who accuse him making himself out to be like God. >Doesn't your scripture tell your just that?
HONOR YOUR FATHER and receive eternal life. There is a judgement. There is a witness, always.
Ayden Jones
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.
>JUST END IT ALL But in actuality, all humans are God's people, all are subject to him, all are chosen.
>YOU
Benjamin Hughes
a slightly wider exegesis
In the ancient near east, many words for God and for a lord like a king are interchangable It is not strange or heretical for them to call each other "gods" God renders judgement unto "gods". All are "gods", because all have the opportunity to, in life, be worshipped but these people who are worshipped will always be ignorant, and their actions always threaten the foundations of society. Now Jesus - Jesus defends the weak, upholds the cause of the poor and oppressed, rescues the week and needy, delivers them from the hand of wicked. This is exactly how God acts in heaven. It is how he means for us to act on Earth. If you are, then you will be reunited with The Lord.
Jonathan Cox
Can I reconcile this with wanting to send niggers back to Africa
Nicholas Thompson
>implying joseph of arimethea wasnt saved
lol ok
Ethan Sanders
christianity has always been about exemplary righteousness and morality about being an example for others. how can you be truly moral if you keep for yourself? give to the poor, be an example. yes, this means being forgiving, and being forgiven. but that is not the main central point. you must live by the commandments, give your riches to the poor, and follow Jesus (in honor and righteousness unto death).
Here is some stuff to think about:
Matthew includes in his Gospel the mass infanticide of Herod. We would expect a major event like this to be recorded in a society of fully literate men, but it was not, even by Josephus, who wrote much about Herod's misdeeds. This should be enough of a seed for you to not take everything at face value.
Some of the original Gospel material was written in Aramaic. An aramaic version of the bible used in the Syrian church has the correct transliteration of Matthew 19 that will forever by marred by one scribes error in thinking that the aramaic word for "rope" was actually "camel". They do look similar. Also, if you find the translation of the Aramaic bible into English (Lamsa Bible), you will find that there is an extra word in Matthew 19:21 that you have been led to believe is not supposed to be there or is a false interpretation.
Owen Bailey
Nobody is perfect. The only people who say this are retarded communists trying to demonize the rich. Yes they have shinier toys so what? All the people who built their yachts, cars and jets got paid and have jobs. Lots of people benefit from rich peoples "greed". If there were no rich people, yacht mechanics, shipbuilders, car designers, jet mechanics, etc. Would all have no job. "They will curse the name of the man who hoards grain but they will bless the name of the ma who sells it". Also job was rich. God took it away to test his faith but he gave it right back to him. He would be as rich as bill gates in modern terms. Being rich isnt a sin. Valuing your money more than god is a sin.
I am not saying that you should have nothing. And you are not wrong. Consider the potential for good that exists within every multi-millionaire's bank account. Incredible things could be achieved if wealth was not hoarded, but instead spent to do good. But you cannot have more money than you could spend in a lifetime and be considered righteous.
Tyler Cook
And yes, you can be morally perfect. It is entirely achievable. God does not nitpick. He defines understanding.
Owen Diaz
Luke 21:1-5 is a good verse to illustrate His point. The rich man can afford to gift the Lord lavishly in order to maintain graces, but the gifts were small in proportion to that which the poor woman gave, for she donated all had to Him. Thus, its not so much a matter of rich people not being perfect, but that they would not be willing to give all they had in His name. To those who obtained wealth and power on Earth, the promises of the Lord can seem redundant. Thus, when the rich man in Matthew 19 was asked to sell all he had and follow the Lord, he rejected it, because he could not bear to lose that which he had obtained on Earth; his idea of heaven. He didn't realize that what the Lord was really asking him to do was to recant that which is temporal and give in fully to Him, for only through Him could a man be wealthy and powerful past the point of death and for all eternity. If something temporal is keeping you anchored to the sins of this Earth, then it is better to be rid of it than to to be dragged down to Hell by it (Matthew 5:29-30).
Hudson Phillips
Ah, but they ARE doing good. When they buy a private jet all we see is them buying a really cool car and grind our teeth in jealousy and rage at their materialism, when in reality thousands of people were paid money to feed their families when they buy a lamborghini. Someone has to design it, people have to make it transport it and repair it when it breaks. They get to enjoy nice things and benefiting us all as a direct result. Also most billionaires never store more than a million in their bank account. Most of their net worth is tied up in stocks and the companies they own. Their huge net worth isnt sitting in their pocket. Its in wallstreet helping the economy
Jonathan Williams
This. If i was rich i would be aware of this. Money cant keep you out of hell and it wont come with you when you die.
Thomas Thomas
>its a bible passages with no context or background posted to fit anons point of view >user doesnt even go to bible study >user is unversed in the catechism heh
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”
26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” >Tl;dr its okay to be rich if you do it through God.
Jose Fisher
Yes. Slaves to their possessions, the "rewarded" in the Sermon on the Mount. This is your average rich American. And this system, this eternal economic "growth", this is what is important, right?
Jace Hernandez
No, the fact that the spending habits of the rich put food on so many peoples tables is.
Jaxon Turner
>26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Yes, obviously! Because with God a rich man can give his riches to the poor. And only with God is something beautiful like that possible.
Ian Ramirez
Jesus says his church will be prosecuted . The roman catholic church does the prosecution
>How are there still catholics ?
Jaxon Phillips
Christian Identity (((racists))) are the only ones persecuted and hated by mainstream society. Noah was a doomsday prepper. The ancient israelites were allowed to drive the canaanites extinct and god allowed it. He punished them for racemixing. He literally said his people(modern christians today) were going to replace the natives in lands they went to. manifest destiny was ok with god.
Oliver Barnes
Capitalism is amoral, and yet it works. Around this concept, we have sullied almost everything holy and said "Hey, look! We're still here!". We cling to our interpretations that allow us to have easy, comfortable lives and yet still be "righteous". We throw our money into charities that probably are drug fronts. Our social programs are not thought through. Yes, caesar, "gods", baals, lords, will ALWAYS exist, and always walk around in the dark, shaking the foundations of the Earth. DONT. BE. LIKE. THEM. Honor your Heavenly Father. Catholicism is inane and it does not take a wise man to see it. Eastern churches are prosecuted, and almost surely follow a rite more similar to what Jesus did (which was just Jewish rites plus a modified mikveh ceremony called baptism).
Logan Myers
Catholicism is blatantly false. Thats why in the middle ages only monks could read
Wyatt Peterson
Capitalism isnt immoral, people are. No system of government or economics will ever change that. All we can do is use the one that does the best job of taking care of our people.
Charles Morales
Wrong see the rich young guy , he was not saved he died as a jew and will be judged as one
>17And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. 19Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. 20And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. 21Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. 22And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
Angel Sanders
Yep. Jews get no free pass. So put em in the ovens. Theyre gonna burn now or later so it makes no difference
Gavin Garcia
BUT I do not believe that this teaching applied so much to the Church. When one donated to the Church, they were oftentimes not donating so that the Pope would have a new tiara, but so that churches may be built and maintained, that missions may be funded, etc. In comparing the situation of the Church to the situation in the Temple, the Catholic Church was not the rich man, or the poor woman, but the temple. That which is donated in service to the Lord through His Church need not be sold back, nor could one demand that it be sold back (John 12:1-8). It was this idea that the Church condemned as heresy.
Caleb Campbell
Jews catholics protestants its all the same
Isaac Bell
amoral, not immoral. > No system of government or economics will ever change that. so just fucking pay caesar what is his, alright? we need a great awakening, we need a meme revolution for good. a system of religion that actually follows the MORALS of Jesus and not just the other, later-conceived notions of salvation. cue catholics complaining that they were taught that rich people just had to work harder to get into heaven
Jaxson Russell
Nobody has a free pass and never did. All are held to the same moral law. Nobody is saved for saying they take a man as their savior. All will face judgement for their life. Jews, as plainly said by the Lord, are a people more righteous than the others. You cannot deny it. God does not do backsies. His Covenants are forever and to think otherwise is shameful. You think God can break promises/
Jeremiah Sullivan
>trickle down theory
nigger what are you doing?
also nice flag, dipshit. if you believed any of the shit you're typing you wouldn't trying to associate it with national socialism
James Morales
americans always come to the rescue against ebul nazis.
Cooper Wright
>nazis >capitalists >christian you can pick only one
Wyatt Barnes
No man cometh to the father but by me. If jews didnt need to concert why did he come to them
Jackson Collins
sumerians told a better story faggot fuck off
Lucas Hill
sage sage sage sage sage
Josiah Martinez
>you must be perfect to enter the kingdom of Heaven Huge misunderstanding you have here. Christ faced death to save us because none of us can be truly perfect. Christ will accept you as perfect and represent you as such to God if you have faith. Faith is not insincere and faith produces reverence for Christ's teachings that makes sinning something that weighs on your mind and makes you repentant. Christ will see clearly through all of us and decide if we are worthy.
Jaxon Richardson
In short, trying to jew the Lord, whether you are rich or poor, isn't a winning strategy.
You have to go beyond what is required or expected of you on Earth, if you want to remain in the grace of the Lord.
Kayden Wilson
It is my personal opinion that parts of the Book of John need to be taken with a grain of salt. It was written by a particularly Christological group who lived after the death of anybody who knew Jesus firsthand. bump >he thinks its just a story enjoy your meaningless life
Ryan Lopez
>Jesus says it is very difficult to be both rich and virtuous >the Catholic Church rejects that the priests and those in the apostolic office can't accumulate money generally, nor own land
When does Jesus say that it is very difficult to be both rich and virtuous? He says it is not possible to be perfect and to enter the Kingdom of Heaven having lived the life of a monetarily rich person. You simply sinned by all those thoughts of happiness at your earthly rewards and by not giving it to the poor. Simple. The Catholic Church is unholy specifically because of their riches and their gawdiness. Dreadful.
Cooper Brown
>No man cometh to the father but by me.
This is absolutely true all judgment is given to the son , if you want to go to the father you have to be judged by the son first
>For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Camden Davis
>When does Jesus say that it is very difficult to be both rich and virtuous? Mat. 19:23-24.
>The Catholic Church is unholy specifically because of their riches and their gawdiness. Dreadful. They give in drastic numbers and no one owns the money personally. All art is to express beauty and is also not owned personally by anyone and on display for the people.
>note that pic related is JUST the revenue and expenditure of the Catholic Church in the USA.
I think the great problem is materialism , but selling all i have and live as jesus and his apostles is one of my last thing to do as a christian
Message to the Church in Laodicea
(Colossians 2:1-5)
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
>15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Jeremiah Hernandez
>Christology from the Book of John, composed long after anyone who knew Jesus had died and contains passages found in no other Gospel. I know it is painful but you need to study the history behind these documents. >what is idolatry >what is a graven image if Jesus is God than it is a horrible sin to display His image >Matthew 19:23 Jesus says it is harder than a camel (read: an arcane word for knotted rope used by fishermen) to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. Hard, yes. If there was some special way that required hard work, wouldnt the rich man of the parable stay around to hear it? nope, he goes off from the King of the Jews, saddened because he knows exactly what this hard thing is. He must give away his riches. And only through God is such an act possible. You think that happens just normally? It doesn't. Through the grace of God we transcend our natural urges.
Noah Perez
> selling all i have and live as jesus and his apostles is one of my last thing to do as a christian Godspeed.
Ryder Carter
They do need to convert because the Old Covenant and its Mosaic Law is no longer in effect. It is no longer in effect because Jesus, the Messiah, the Redeemer, that the entire Old Covenant was based around, has come and fulfilled His mission on Earth by offering Himself up as the eternal sacrifice by which any person, regardless of prior background, could be redeemed and enter into His Kingdom by accepting Him as Lord and Savior, receiving baptism, and following His commandments. Anyone who still follows the Mosaic Law or believes them to be valid after Jesus, denies that Jesus was the Messiah and God, which make them no better than the Pharisees that Jesus condemned.
Elijah Torres
>I know it is painful but you need to study the history behind these documents.
Wait you think that the gospel is corrupted ? what about the book of revelation , what about any other book , if we cannot trust one then we cannot trust the other
Noah Ramirez
>They do need to convert because the Old Covenant and its Mosaic Law is no longer in effect You are saying that God does not keep his Covenant. I do not actually believe that you think this is possible.
Charles Kelly
>what is idolatry >what is a graven image
None of the things the church does.
>if Jesus is God than it is a horrible sin to display His image
? If that is true then God would be sinning to call for angels atop the Ark of the Covenant.
>everything on Mat. 19:23-24 So... you're agreeing with me?
Jackson Bennett
You need not read farther than when Herod massacres the firstborn of the nation. Because he did not do that; almost everyone agrees that it is an allusion to Moses, and it was not otherwise recorded in history (which it most certainly would have been if it had occurred). Does this mean that the Sermon on the Mount is all bunk? No, not at all.
The only reason it is "hard" is because the rich man must give away all his possessions. Not because he has to work extra hard at doing good deeds or having great faith. Do me a favor and check out the same passage in the Lamsa Bible (translated from the Aramaic Gospels). You will find one extra word.
Right, and worshipping or praying at a cross like Protestants do is not a worship of that cross in front of them but in reference to what they are worshiping or praying to.
Likewise to kissing.
So you're not disagreeing, you're just adding additional detail and trying to make a point against something that was never said.
He's an obvious heretic. He is no better than the Pharisees that constantly demanded that Jesus perform obvious sings and miracles in order to prove His divinity, for he himself does not believe that Jesus is God the Son.
Xavier Myers
>and trying to make a point against something that was never said. which is? you are trying to imply that it is possible for rich people to get into heaven. it is not,
Cooper Peterson
>Netherlands This I can understand as your Lutheran churches are shitholes and not places of worship at all, even if you are a Lutheran. However not everyone has that sort of issue.
Jeremiah Cooper
>he hasn't read Psalm 82 It says right there that YOU are the Son of God and God's Son, user. Jesus quotes it himself. Your convoluted Christology will be the destruction of your church.
>Right, and worshipping or praying at a cross like Protestants do is not a worship of that cross in front of them but in reference to what they are worshiping or praying to.
I do not know, its probably not oke, to be sure i banned all religious imagery including the cross
>16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
>17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
>18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Levi Perez
The point is that it is hard to give up your riches. You have to be willing to give everything up, including even your own self to more beyond suffering into heaven. If you are wealthy in his day or normal in ours, you have so much comforts you can't even begin to get rid of them.
Jordan Turner
Revelation 9
>20And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Ryan Rodriguez
With God all things are possible.
Oliver Jones
>Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, > and yet they still make bloodied crucified Jesus glorified in churches all over the planet Fact.
Wyatt Hill
Yes, because only with God is it possible for a rich man to give away all his possessions. That doesn't happen otherwise.
Jason White
> Jesus wasn’t Jewish
Jace Watson
Nope. Not what it says. But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
How rich was Solomon and David?
John Jenkins
>The Church is hypocritical
NO WAY
Andrew Ramirez
You are trying to label me i have no label i just follow the word of god the best i can and try to be as his true church the bride
Isaac Bailey
>“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Yes, exactly what I just said in my last post. Men cannot give away all their stuff except with God. Solomon and David were rich as any king. Their wealth was the state.
Benjamin Taylor
They where jews , jews are judged by the law not by faith like christians
We can all rest easy tonight knowing that the gnostic crusade on Sup Forums has tapered off.
Leo Perry
Its the love of money doofus, not money itself. We all have wealth relatively. Jesus had an expensive outer garment and allowed the woman to use expensive oil on his feet rather than donate it.
“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth” (Luke 16:13)
Money wont save the world, no will donating to the poor, as Jesus said you will always have these - focusing on Gods kingdom which will could save tho.
Jayden Barnes
Send them back and offer your help in the building of their nation, if they refuse it's their choice
Brody King
>King of Kings Ozymandias? Cyrus?
Connor Gonzalez
Jesus Christ.
Jaxon Collins
All rich people love money or are lying. They love how it makes them feel separate from and better than others. It threatens to push the muscles of their face into a grin when they think of their great treasures. aka I can agree with most of your post.
Carter Bennett
He did keep it. The OT prophecy of the Messiah said that He would sacrifice Himself in order to redeem the Israelites and bring about eternal peace in the New Jerusalem. Jesus' offered Himself up on the Cross, and through the spilling of His Precious Blood redeemed the souls of the OT Israelites, as well as allowing anyone of any ancestry to receive the same reward by joining the Israel of God through the rebirth of baptism. And, after the Final Judgement, the New Jerusalem will be completely and eternally established.
The Old Covenant circumcision of the foreskin was replaced with the circumcision of the soul through the baptism. the line of High Priests under the Line of Aaron was replaced with the eternal High Priest of Jesus under the eternal and superior Order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:13-17). The physical manna from Heaven that nourished the stomachs of the Israelites, but not their souls, was superseded with the Manna that is Christ's Flesh through Holy Communion (John 6:32-66). And the the Mosaic Law, with some exceptions (such as the Ten Commandments) was replaced with Jesus' new teachings, and the teachings of the Church that He established on St. Peter (Matthew 16:13-19).
So Jesus was not just the Messiah and eternal sacrifice, but also the living embodiment of the New covenant, and the Blessed Virgin Mary His Immaculate Ark. His Coming superseded the Old Covenant.
Andrew White
I don't seem to recall him. Was he in the Iliad?
Christopher Stewart
To get a better understanding where works (the law) goes into (faith) following christ ,you should read the whole context of the rich young man
>27Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
Adrian Turner
>I do not know, its probably not oke, to be sure i banned all religious imagery including the cross >I banned
On what authority? >the rest If we use your understanding of Graven Images then God told people to sin when he asked for angels atop the Ark of the Covenant. >which is That there is extra work or faith needed. I am saying that is very difficult to be virtuous while having so much monetary excess, but I now see you are disagreeing and saying it is actually impossible. The giving up of it is a good solution but you ignore people whose riches pertain to infrastructure used for the economy and things of the sort. Jesus' comments are exaggerating the difficulty of both having excess and being virtuous rather than saying you cannot be virtuous and have excess. I'm not even talking about you, I'm talking about your country. Regardless, God bless you man.
>Christology Unfortunately you cannot back any of that up with actual quotes from Jesus, only from those who wished to build a religion around him.
I think you should look up what qualifies one as a Messiah. It does not change even when you translate Messiah into Kristos. Same qualifications. Does Jesus fulfill these? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM .>HMMMMMMMM HMMMMMMMM
Tyler Lee
Not all rich people, but i agree that it is most. There has to be a number that have overcome with Gods help. For example a widow that lives in a mansion (that all would consider rich) that would be too hard to sell ... and have it in her will to give away when she dies.
'Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”—2 Corinthians 9:7.
Sebastian Garcia
He forgives you for being an obnoxious cunt and for other things in addition to the Australian thing I mentioned.
lel I misread you bro my bad.
Juan Turner
Why do you think images of angels are the same as God? They are not God. God is ONE and indivisible. >Jesus' comments are exaggerating the difficulty Tell yourself what you like.
Jack Brooks
>On what authority?
Literally the bible? god never commanded me or you or anyone else to make religious figures
he could also have said use this cross as my symbol , he did not , jesus was a carpenter he could had made crosses , or anything there is nothing...
No where do we see the cross turn up ? with this symbol you shall conquer and many died under new christianity
>god never commanded me or you or anyone else to make religious figures ....except the Ark of the Covenant. Anyway, I'm going to head to bed. 4am here.
