Hxh 99 > hxh 2011

How could anyone possible believe that the 2011 HxH adaption is better than the '99. 1999 outclasses the 2011 in its direction to such an extent that it’s hard to imagine anyone believing otherwise. Literally everything about the '99 version is better from the lighting, soundtrack, character design, animation quality, storyboarding, etc. The general level of polish is just so much lower in the 2011 version it’s disheartening. It baffles me when people say they prefer the 2011 version when there isn’t anything to favor. It's a downgrade in every sense.

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Trash is better than garbage.

because it barely covers half of the manga material and greed arc OVAs are piss

I do think 2011 looks and feels a little cheap at times but it gets most of the big moments in the series right

The 1999 adaptation covers the first four arcs dramatically better than the 2011 one. 2011 completely butchers the hunter exam arc which is is incredibly important for building the leads’ personalities and backstories.

>Kurapika is a girl
>Leopika trash
>End of Evangelion references
>Gon's mother is dead
>absolutely garbage Greed Island adaptation
Just fuck off already.

HxH might be an engaging story in its own right but if its presentation is poor then entire work will suffer. The direction and writing in HxH 1999 are far more consistently and cohesively realized than the Madhouse adaptation, which suffers from extreme disparities in quality on an episode-by-episode basis.

No, Gon's mother is a chimera ant and when Gon finds out, he'll go look for her and become a chimera ant just like his mother.

>>Kurapika is a girl
Wait what? I thought 99 just pushed the LerioxPika pairing hard.
I do agree that both series have their own merits, but that 99 is also only truly better during the hunter's exam and yorkshin arcs. The rest are on par or worse. And even then 99 still makes some dumb changes to the story.

Not only does 1999 execute the first four arcs supremely better, Furuhashi & co added small side stories not present in the original manga to help flesh out the characterization.

Eh.
a few of the fight scenes were certainly worse (Killua/Gon in particular). Killua's dad and his dog were both far less intimidating. The Greed Island 99 arc was TRASH. The assassin girl filler was trash.

Also 11' had Hashire, which by itself trumps all of the music in 99'.

99 has way better OP/ED's

Same goes for the jojo '93 ova over production david jojo, but for whatever reason everyone keeps saying it's shit. It's something I simply cannot fathom.
Friendly reminder that if you watch older shit on a crt tv, it looks like it just came out.

Better OPs but endings 2-6 for 2011 shits on the 99 endings.

i like how as an example you chose a picture of a scene that was completely botched in the 99 adaptation, good job.

>personalities/backstories that aren't in the manga
You're forgetting this little detail, I don't want bullshit filler or fluff. It almost always does nothing for the story.

>>Kurapika is a girl
Stop being retarded, Leorio outright says Kurapika is a man in the 99 anime.

Are you fucking kidding me? The Hanzo vs Gon fight in 99 destroys 2011 in animation quality, art design, and storyboarding. I mean look at pic related compared to OP. What is with this gross violet matte? And why are we so far away from Gon and Hanzo during their most impactful moment? 2011 simply commits far too many cinematographical sins in any given scene to list them all here,

>It baffles me when people say they prefer the 2011 version when there isn’t anything to favor. It's a downgrade in every sense.

It seems like you're among the few who place a large amount of unwarranted importance on things like lighting and camera angles. That or you hold some kind of bias towards older things out of nostalgia that doesn't allow you to see anything that's superior in the 2011 version.

>HxH might be an engaging story in its own right but if its presentation is poor then entire work will suffer. The direction and writing in HxH 1999 are far more consistently and cohesively realized than the Madhouse adaptation, which suffers from extreme disparities in quality on an episode-by-episode basis.

>unwarranted importance
I sure hope this is bait

They are both nice but have different weaknesses. Stop behaving like little kids.

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>HxH might be an engaging story in its own right but if its presentation is poor then entire work will suffer.
Except it objectively isn't.

And I can say the same about faithfulness to the source material, you know, something you shouldn't fuck around with unless its absolutely neccesary. I don't want dark lighting in an arc where the protagonists get into many comedic situations, I don't want yaoibaiting, I don't want further characterisation that contradicts with future source material.

I want a story the author intended, not some film students take on it. Its like wanting LOTR's tone for the first Hobbit film - it just doesn't fit the events of the story

As for things like OST and voice acting, 2011 is much better. The OST can be off in some areas but for most of the big moments, it nails the scene. As for the VA, it feels far more emotive and

Exactly. The color work is embarrassing.

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I don't really care for HxH but 99 just looks so great. I wish it did the entire series.

I'm sorry you place higher value on things like that, which seem incredibly superficial compared to crucial elements like story and characters.

2011's presentation is objectively worse than 99's. This is what baffles me.

2011's terrible soundtrack makes the scenes even worse. While ’99s OST is often fitting, very much so during the Illumi fight, 2011 uses a lot of out of place electric guitar riffs. I couldn’t help but think the 2011 Illumi is supposed to be some jaded hair metal bassist instead of a ruthless killer.

Gon’s confrontation with Illumi is affected by bad sound design too. ’99 uses the sound to build-up the tension, while 2011 uses some generic marching band snare drums that eliminates any sense of stake from the encounter. In ’99 the confrontation is messier and more emotional, causing Illumi to lose a bit of his poise

>not watching everything on crt tv
Something about the colors, the black levels, and the pretty glow is magical.

Also, while Madhouse's adaptation is faithful to the narrative of the manga, it definitely isn’t faithful to its tone and in fact very deliberately attempts to broaden the appeal of the story. The overarching conceit of the manga (and the 99 adaptation) is a humanity vs nature dynamic. The world of HxH is extremely violent and uncaring, where physical strength matters above all: the Hunter Exam is so dangerous participants can lose their lives, the only way to enter the Phantom Troupe is by killing another member, Chimera Ants focused on consuming strong organisms to steal their power, etc. The humanity of Gon et al is supposed to counteract this, and most of the major arcs culminate in some kind of confrontation between a nihilistic ‘nature’ and human ethics (Illumi telling Killua he was born to be an assassin, Kurapika choosing his friends over his revenge, Meruem questioning the difference between humans and ants). The Madhouse adaptation subtly undermines this by making the story more palatable to normal shounen audiences: Gon & Killua’s uneasy friendship becomes a bromance, Hisoka is a JoJo-esque fabulous joke character instead of a dangerous pervert, etc. The dangerousness of Gon and co’s adventures isn’t adequately conveyed which robs the important character moments of their impact.

>eva references
>that fucking shot of gon and killuas nen baptism
>awkward kick from gon on hisoka
Better background art and more facial detail doesn't make an adaptation better.

>Hashire
Hope you're joking, it's probably one of the shittiest and most overused tracks in '11.

The adaption might not be better but that doesn't make the artstyle not visually appealing.

>generic purple EVIL
Why is it everywhere. Is there some rule stating that if if you want scary atmosphere make it purple?

Bascially, in the 90s, anime watchers and makers were fans of story telling and here were very little shit otaku to pander to. Because of the high taste of its fans, the made good shows. Fans wanted good stories then instead of now where they just want to buy it.

I know. I don't know why they use that gross violet matte in 2011.

>muh le edgy so deep le kino XDD

fuck off reddit

99 version COMPLETELY misread the mood of the series and tried too ahrd to be something it isnt

Have you even read the manga you idiot? It was the 2011 version that completely butchered the tone of the manga. Read my post above.

99 can have superior quality in a few moments comparatively to 2011 because it is slower and full of filler.

You can easily cherrypick and compare scenes to make one look better than the other because their production schedule isn't the same.

Like in 99, the Chrollo vs Silva & Zeno was episode 62 and the end of the tv series before the OVA came a year later. So obviously lots of budget and probably the best team they had was in charge of that episode.

In 2011, the same fight is episode 52 and the next episode is next week. It wasn't handled by the best team, might even have been outsourced to koreans.

On the other hand when 2011's best team is in charge, 99 is beaten like with Gon vs Hisoka, Kurapika vs Uvo, Chrollo's requiem.

The ’99 Hisoka is far more menacing because he isn’t some impenetrable monster, but an unpredictable deviant. The 2011 Hisoka, on the other hand, is more like a B-tier JoJo villain. See the Kurapika vs Hisoka fight which in ’99 takes up over half an episode, in 2011 it’s over in literally 5 seconds

>The ’99 Hisoka is far more menacing because he isn’t some impenetrable monster, but an unpredictable deviant. The 2011 Hisoka, on the other hand, is more like a B-tier JoJo villain.
I think that's a completely subjective interpretation based on nothing but your bias.

>See the Kurapika vs Hisoka fight which in ’99 takes up over half an episode, in 2011 it’s over in literally 5 seconds
That fight isn't even shown in the manga. So clearly whatever you think the 99 anime added really isn't that important.

All the additions of the '99 anime made the story better. And it's not just my interpretation, just look at the character design of the '99 Hisoka vs the 2011 Hisoka. The color work in 2011 is brighter and a bit garish compared to the Earthier palette of ’99. The type of stylization isn’t on-face bad, as it’s suitable for the average fighting shounen. But Hunter x Hunter isn’t the average fighting shounen; very frequently it goes into darker territory, and the show is more of an action-thriller than a straight up fighting shounen anyway. The more naturalistic designs of ’99 are a better fit for the material.

>All the additions of the '99 anime made the story better.
Yeah, couldn't have done it without this filler guy in Heaven's arena, skipping the Kastro fight was also a great move.

Anime adaptations where a personal vision supersedes the original source material are generally preferable to a straight adaptation, regardless of the quality of said original material. Whether you agree with Furuhashi’s additions or not; the direction and writing in HxH 1999 are far more consistently and cohesively realized than the Madhouse adaptation,

No puedo detenegme.

>regardless of the quality of said original material.
That's where you're wrong.

Things that '99 has
- colors, colored light, color direction, fucking COLOR
- angles, lense effects
- framing, composition

Things that 2011 has
- transparent gradient overlays
- more frames

Things 2011 also has:
-consistency

Most anime fans don't care about direction, as long as things look the way they expect them to, they will even overlook a complete lack of animation.

Yeah, it's consistently shit.

t. hipster trashman

Are you kidding me? 2011 suffers from suffers from extreme disparities in quality on an episode-by-episode basis.

I really don't know how I feel about Illumi being voiced by a woman in the '99 anime.

2011 was consistently low on budget and animation past the hunter the arc.

hxh is overrated trash either way who cares, even naruto is better

CRT's are still a better tech(talking about real high-end ones here)
Only OLED can compete in Black Levels/Color Accuraccy but it still has shit motion due to Sample-and-Hold method used(though Rolling Scan technique in VR alleviates that issue) and if your content isn't HD or 4K than SD quality stuff is going to look bad because it's a fixed-pixel display.
I wonder if they'll ever release the OVA on Blu-ray one of these days.

Also obviously an OVA from the 90s is going to have way better animation than the cheap trash they keep putting out these days.

Also forgot that Satoshi Kon directed most of the episodes in the 1993 OVA series.

Sure.
Kon only directed one episode.

This. I had to facepalm when I read this.
I want millennials to go jump off a cliff and just die.

You might as well read the manga if you want just that retard

>The color work is embarrassing.
This says a lot too when the only version of '99 we have has butchered colors too

Pic related
Original cel left
The only version we have which is sourced from an old beta tape transfer in the right

Good, that's all fanfiction with Naruto filler deserves

99 remaster when?

Now that's just tragic

Looks great. I love the color palettes of cel animation.

Do they still have the original cels?

Fuck off retard EVA didn't invent any of that shti

>Kon only directed one episode.
Wrong
Kon directed every episode of the '93 series of OVA with the exception of "D'Arby the Gambler" which was done by Kitakubo
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Reddit are '11fags
Get it right retard

Killua is cuter in 2011, therefore it's better

Fuck off redditurd, adults are talking here.

reddit: FMA Brotherhood, HxH 2011, Sailor Moon Crystal

Sup Forums: FMA, HxH 99, Sailor Moon OG

They were probably dumped or sold at an auction after the show ended back in the day just like with most animation.

They do have the thing on Film though so they could do a high quality restoration nowadays but they just don't bother.

>FMA
That's MAL
Sup Forums doesn't give a fuck about FMA in general

There used to be huge FMA vs FMA:B war threads

>wikipedia
ANN says he only directed episode 5, so I checked and according to the credits it's the only one he did. He did other stuff on 2 and 6 though.

>Eva references

who else is thankful to be graced by the ability to watch this masterpiece?

Considering that most of it was a goddamn budgetless slog full of exposition, powerpoint presentations, stills and speedlines fights, and overall doing very little effort to actuallly adapt the manga past the hunter arc, it was pretty much just a huge waste of time for people who've already went through the source material.

you just aren't smart enough to get the writing and trope subversion

Fuera de aquí choroy

The left side wasn't Togashi's intention. There's supposed to be some levity to the fact that Kurapika was getting so intimate with his chains.

I can't tell which adaptation you're talking about.

2011 obv. since 1999 has no powerpoint presentations faggot

Except that doesn't make sense because you said
>overall doing very little effort to actuallly adapt the manga past the hunter arc
So you can't be talking about the 2011 version.

Soundtrack seems to be a common problem with modern Madhouse

99 version is a massive improvement

I'm not I assume by "adapt" that guy is referring to 2011 being a boring adaptation of the manga while not using the strengths of animation

>tfw Madhouse used to have good soundtracks, especially for Monster

then why did he say "past the hunter arc" when all of the best adapting and animation is in chimera ants?

>woke up from my coma
>Sup Forums is still pretending 99 is better than 11

2011 overall production drops severely past the hunter arc, the amount of animation per episode nosedives and the storyboards turn into mindless panel pasting.

It's cherrypicking. Notice how the majority of the discussion is always centered around that one scene with Illumi.

no the most best looking episodes are all in the chimera arc

Those are sporadic and short moments. Every time people bring up the CA arc it's always the same 3 episodes out of like 50.

The artstyle certainly is appealing in the visual sense, but that's only because most anime these days go for an artstyle similar to the 2011 version, and for good reason.

148 episodes with that type of artstyle isn't exactly viable in today's industry, there's far less people willing to jump into a project like that.

Postan best girl

>See the Kurapika vs Hisoka fight which in ’99 takes up over half an episode, in 2011 it’s over in literally 5 seconds
I'm glad they didn't go through the other fights properly. Half the fights had predictable endings and the other half were actually important to building up how Killua ends up getting disqualified.

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most is from chimera ants, stop lying.

Hey look, its another thread where a 1999 fan decides to prove his favorite versions' superiority by cherrypicking!