Anime is officially finished. Enjoy these days while they last, Sup Forums
Dai Sato, script writer for shows such as Bebop, Eureka 7, and Stand Alone Complex, recently had this to say about anime shifting its focus to appealing to an international audience:
"Long ago, works were created just for the Japanese market. As anime has become more popular all over the world, there is definitely a focus now within the industry to cater experiences to overseas audiences; a trend you may have even seen taking hold with Space Dandy. Look forward to the trend of works being catered to audiences not only in the west, but also those in Korea, and China.
As far as specific writing challenges are concerned, it has proved a bit tricky to write around what is allowed for broadcast in China, what with restrictions on certain violent and political topics."
>Look forward to the trend of works being catered to audiences not only in the west, but also those in Korea, and China >Look foward
How do you feel about our new chink and burger overlords deciding what makes anime good?
Eli Nguyen
Chinks and gook chinks wouldn't want it any different than it is now
Christopher Nelson
But WE are the international audience.
Christopher Reyes
>ato, script writer for shows such as Bebop, Eureka 7, and Stand Alone Complex, recently had this to say about anime shifting its focus to appealing to an international audience That's right. Chink/gook market is more or less the same as Japanese market. Look at their cons and shit. They resemble Jap cons more than western ones.
>Space Dandy Everyone on Sup Forums loves Space Dandy, so what's the problem?
Isaiah Rivera
No we're not. Your dad is.
Mason Barnes
>Everyone on Sup Forums loves Space Dandy, so what's the problem? >name anime space fucking dandy >some side character in other anime in the same season was more dandy than him I dropped this shit for false advertisement.
Blake Cox
I fail to see any sort of commotion that you're suggesting.
Julian Davis
Think of every aspect of anime you think would take a bit of mileage to 'get' or appreciate. Basically anything you couldn't immediately show your normalfag friend who's never seen any anime. Say bye to them all.
Elijah Jones
We are not, we are a few part of the international audience but the majority are casuals and just by numbers they will be the target audience, like what is happening to the vidya industry
Logan Morris
I guess now i can at long last start working on my backlog
Kayden Rivera
Chinks can't even have death in their stories
Or time travel, though that's not much of a loss
Ethan Nelson
Even if this is the beginning of marketing anime to a much more hardcore level to the international market, It's important to keep in mind that this is also a very common way for a small counterculture of strong, against the grind mediums (like anime) to flourish. Expect greater content in smaller instances.
John White
What is he retarded? the problem with anime is it's getting written to target otaku more and more and is losing its broader appeal. Miyazaki was right. Also eureka 7 sucked
Anthony Roberts
>time travel what could possibly be their problem with time travel?
Ryder Lewis
>it's getting written to target otaku more and more It's not, though. That's just your confirmation bias.
Matthew Morris
>chinks cant even have death in their stories have you ever fucking seen a chink movie or cartoon. The MC/ MCs loved one has to be killed in every fucking conclusion
Aaron Rivera
>facebook filename Fuck off retarded normalfag.
Logan Robinson
Oh please, idol anime shit and isekai almost didn't even exist 10 years ago. Otaku's are even the MCs of a lot of anime these days when it used to be high schoolers and before that, children.
Blake Howard
Not sure if bait.
Nicholas White
>watch show with time travel in it for the first time >"hmm, what could I do if I could time travel" >"What if I stopped the communist party from ever taking power?"
Josiah Long
Yes, all 'problematic' elements in anime will eventually be filtered out as creators slowly realize that getting a multi million dollar production deal through Netflix to make a Grim Men Killing Men Grimly show for Breaking Bad fans is a better idea than making a late night fetish show for Otaku that'll sell 2,000 discs in a country of 130 million people. This has been a very long time coming, unfortunately.
Hudson Martinez
If there is ever something to never bet against it is the casual progression of an art medium becoming progressively for profit and not for expression.
Mason Jackson
You are so right, it's already happening with disney and marvel.
Benjamin Turner
I hate to do this but what is that stupid anime girl face from wait and google are not helping
Nicholas Long
Space Dandy was made specifically to cater to international audiences? I never got that vibe at all. In fact I recall many episodes having a very Japanese aesthetic or theme.
Kevin Butler
>BONES killed anime I told you so, but you didn't heard.
Eli Rogers
How do we solve the chink problem?
Brandon Adams
>but you didn't heard. why am I laughing so hard at this
Benjamin Anderson
>stupid Wow rude.
Austin Bailey
ayy lmao
Mason Stewart
Kiniro mosaic
Joseph Morales
You can't, chinks own hollywood and now they will own anime. They seem to be outsmarting jews.
Alexander Watson
ayyyy lmaooooo
Mason Brooks
Hollywood is increasingly irrelevant. They can move headquarters to Beijing and make all the propaganda they want for all I care.
Samuel Ward
well space dandy was good and moeshit is bad. so I dont see the problem
James Scott
I don't know if it was made for an international audience but it at least did far better oversees than it did in japan. So there was for sure some kind of direction like that during the creation.
Elijah Morgan
>Hollywood is increasingly irrelevant. For you.
Jackson Price
Chinks are so creatively bankrupt they have to pay japs and burgers for entertainment, whilst ripping off everyone ideas for video games. I guess creative thinking is forbidden by the hivemind.
Wyatt Flores
>jpeg artifacts >dude weed lmao >filename
Brayden King
Who the fuck cares? Home market will still de big because they have sources like mangas, LNs and WNs that are used for most of the shows anyway.
Justin Moore
Yeah, i dont even rememeber the last time an anime original story was any better than okay.
Hudson Robinson
Soon WE WUZ WAIFUZ N' SHIET
James Smith
Yea but Space Dandy was awesome. The storytelling in particular was original and enjoyable. That's just such an odd example to point out as an anime that signals a greater focus on 'overseas'. Space Dandy is the one of most 'anime,' anime I can think of. Its very Japan to me. Where is this quote from?
Michael Richardson
You probably watch three shows per season, or think most LN adaptations are good.
Benjamin Miller
>LNs and WNs that are used for most of the shows anyway This is the most important factor in everything. For the 'anime is over it's just western shows but cartoons now' doomsday to actually happen, the LN and WN industry would have to suddenly evaporate, which isn't going to happen. We're just going to get a bunch of shitty originals about cops in addition to the usual trash adaptions we all know and love.
Ryder Hall
If we get more waifus like Raraiya and the captain from G Reco, I’m totally down for more WUZ in my anime.
Cameron Martin
>hey we have this unique and interesting thing that appeals to a niche audience >oh, that's pretty good, but how about instead we turn into generic shit that tries to appeal to everyone and ends up appealing to no one. Every fucking time, it's like the heat death of universe but for art. Anything that's outlandish and exotic will eventually lose it's edge and become casualized for the masses.
>dude weed lmao! Good for you i guess they are tying to appeal to you.
This is what i hope, that publishers just say fuck off and keep focusing on intern market, and since most anime that is good are adaptations while original are good only once a year at best, this will keep the normalfaggotry at bay.
Angel Wood
We'll get more and more adaptations of shitty chink web novels. It's already happening.
Brody Howard
>You probably watch three shows per season Sure, if dropped shows dont count.
Isaac Thompson
Animegataris isn't bad, but that's just chinks paying a japanese studio to put a chink character in the story. They aren't creatively involved.
As soon as you get them directly involved in the writing, it turns to shit like Bloodivores.
Nicholas Thompson
I can see it now. We'll receive the same treatment handed out to gamers, comicbook readers, and nerds in general. That popular culture will look at us and decide "the content is good, the community must go".
The co-option of nerd culture is a great example: look at how nerds are being treated within popular culture, despite the fact that being a nerd is supposedly cool. There's still jokes about us all being fat greasy neckbeards, anti-social weirdos, perverts, boring, dull, awkward, etc. Look at shows like The Big Bang theory and how it depicts nerds as somehow deserving mockery and ridicule. It's all the same shit that's been there for years. Because popularity doesn't equal acceptance, understanding, or tolerance.
Anime itself might become popular, but the anime community will be overrun by people who demand we change our tastes to suit them, while being wholly unwilling to extend us the same courtesy. The same people who now berate us for being weebs and otakus will then be a voice in the community, and likely a vocal one. They will slowly drive out the aspects of the community that don't fit the mainstream mold. Concepts like best-girl/boy, waifus/husbandos, harem anime, fanservice, divisive or disturbing anime that generate discussions will all be pushed to the bottom. These kinds of people are already present, but as the number of fans increases so will the number of these intolerant consumers. The people who want anime to be what they want and nothing else.
Not all new fans will be like this, but enough of the intolerant consumers will be present in the fan influx to begin to shift the general consensus within the community. And as niche groups are suppressed more intolerant consumers will pour in, speeding up the process.
Jeremiah Roberts
If the writers wrote for the Japanese market and then adapted that for international markets as required then I could live with it. I can get the original Japanese version for me and the plebs will be content with the adaptation so everyone is happy.
Actually trying to write for international, particular American, markets however... eh. Probably not a good idea. I like anime because it's not written for me. It's different and refreshing compared to American media.
Carson Richardson
What if chinks are simply learning the trade, before branching out and making their own animation studios?
Then we can safely ignore them, and have a seperate dead board called /ca/ for all the trash they produce.
Easton Hughes
The problem with chinese stories is that they're all incoherent clusterfucks. If they learned to write stories at least on a naruto level they could have popular shows but as is no one watches them because they make no sense.
John Barnes
This shit will scare the nips away too. The American market will be so poisonous they'll never even try to touch it again although perhaps that's for the best.
Owen Wright
Hey now, don't lump burgers in with this. The Chinese banned PORN. They also are not allowed to have any depictions of skulls in their media because it insults the dead and that's just a drop in the bucket.
Xavier Brown
Is there are word that describes being disgusted by anything the western industry produces?
Mason Baker
>inb4 100,000,000 anime shows about the fucking Monkey King
Eli Roberts
America could be nuked and that would be a good thing, your culture is ruining the world.
Luis Miller
You guys are overreacting. The only shows that were popular with normalfags were snk and opm, and they didn't even buy a lot of them. Naruto, one piece, pokemon, dragon ball, astroboy or akira were leagues more popular and they didn't change the otaku market to be western oriented.
Ryder Lewis
The american market isn't that important. Appealing to chinks is much more profitable unfortunately.
Say goodbye to anime skellingtons.
Elijah Sanchez
Like, you know, dragonball?
Eli Lewis
>implying the average western pig is worth catering to
Western fans are awful in general, they should be ignored completely.
Benjamin Wood
If China enjoys anime enough to pour their dosh into the jap animation industry, I'm happy. Chinks will just have to torrent the shows that don't get distributed/broadcast because of stupid laws. That's what they did for Kabaneri.
Jacob Johnson
Chink anime is just as shitty. At least shows like Space Dandy have some flair. Nobody is going to win here.
Lucas Brown
they wrote To Be Hero, which I found surprisingly enjoyable.
Brayden Sullivan
Once the money is there, shows that chinks can't buy won't get made.
Hunter Allen
This will never happen with manga.
No one outside of Japan is autistic enough to care about a bunch of poorly drawn, black-and-white comics.
Ian Gray
America is the single best country in the world and its culture is fine and helped change the world for better, whether you like it or not. It's not American culture that's ruining everything. It's Jewish mass media.
Nathan Peterson
The chinks have haoliners to peddle their garbage.
Blake Perry
Quality aside, they just don't buy anything. So they're irrelevant, paying 1$ a month to crunchyroll doesn't matter to the japs. They'll take the extra whatever distribution rights money but that's that, whether 1 person watches the show or 2 million in the west it doesn't make a difference for japs. Chinese on the other hand spend fucktons of money, but mostly on mobile games, so that market is oriented towards anime that promotes mobile games or they make mobile games off the anime.
Easton Barnes
That's where you're wrong. The Chinese government has it's own restrictions on content, in addition to whatever their people's preference is.
Kevin Howard
>American "culture"
Jackson Anderson
I already liked everything they put out for the "Japanese market" despite not being into it. Please do not change anything.
Luis Miller
Not anymore, you are not an example of anything. They are your niggers, your jews and your women. They are all part of you now. What you talk about is a dead dream.
Benjamin Harris
> It's not American culture that's ruining everything. It's Jewish mass media. I don't see the difference desu
Henry Johnson
Compare current entertainment shit to TV shows even a decade old. Hell, there's even British shit that likely couldn't air today, and did no less than 4 or 5 years ago. It's off topic, though, so I'll say no more.
Are you implying that same shit isn't plaguing Europe as we speak? Look at France, Germany and Sweden. California and other states may be fucked in the ass by the jew, but that doesn't mean free, American states don't exist anymore. It's a nasty uphill battle, but America is objectively in a lot better shape than Europe, and it's that "fuck you" culture that's kept us in better shape all this time. And frankly, I think Japan's in good shape to fend for themselves against cultural marxism.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
You might be right and we're jumping at shadows but just because this kind of stuff hasn't really taken off in America to a great extent yet doesn't mean it never will. It's hard to predict what will make something wildly popular but given enough time just about anything will be at some point for some period of time. It's winning a terrible lottery since in almost all cases something good gets decimated by a large uncontrolled influx of rabid newfound fans and all that's left in the wake when they lose interest are the shattered remains of the communities that existed before they came. New people getting into anime and other Japanese media isn't inherently bad, it's a problem when they don't lurk and don't try to integrate with the community. You don't just barge into someone's house, declare it yours, and make a bunch of new rules.
Grayson Nelson
>there is definitely a focus now within the industry to cater experiences to overseas audiences
Ugh.
Noah Edwards
>rape japanese, german, italian kids, bomb hungarian cities into the dust, leaving them for the soviets to brutally rape and torture for their country standing up against the jews >destabilise south america and the middle east for decades because they didn't sell out to the jews >fetishise other cultures and call it "american" with chinese made plastic shit Yeah, really great, thanks.
Kevin Rogers
Go debate this on another board. This is getting off-topic.
Austin Moore
>Are you implying that same shit isn't plaguing Europe as we speak? I never did that. America and europe must fall, it's the only way to fix yourself.
Brandon Campbell
>but America is objectively in a lot better shape than Europe el goblino
Charles Long
>broadening our audience I have heard this many times before.
Blake Lopez
>le 56% face
Hunter Gomez
Luckily the only good thing he had any sort of involvement in was E7, and that was clearly a fluke. >liking space dandy >Also eureka 7 sucked Because you have autism
Samuel Evans
If anime is about to die of cancer I may as well help hasten it's death.
What's the best way to profit from the impending spike in popularity and the influx of normies eager to part with their money?
Jason Brown
Oh boy is it finally time to start up the Tokusatsu bandwagon?
Jaxon Cooper
To be fair the anime industry hasn't been improving for at least 5 years now. It's a myriad of sequels and flavor of the year shows that get forgotten instantly. Western media already disappeared into obscurity, that's why netflix and steam are getting more and more anime products. But they're jumping from a dead horse to a dying one. Anime will probably keep creeping up in popularity but it's just gonna be casuals who watch a show at the weekend and that's that, they won't engage in the community or forums, because they can't be bothered to do that. Think of lotr, everyone seen it, or at least knows what it is because it's popular, but the hardcore lotr fans are still on the edge of society. And casuals don't want to associate with them.
Noah Murphy
Isn't that just control of state media? Streaming has all the usual shit that the Chink government would ban.
Jeremiah Martin
Hop on
Zachary James
We told you this would have happened,but you didn't listen.
Jack Murphy
Are all the people that liked Space Dandy americans? If so, that would explain a lot of things, because I hated it.
Oliver Barnes
Rude. I masturbate to said comics daily.
Adrian Martin
Just give me a new season of Wakako Zake and I'll be fine
Ryan Allen
Whoa, easy with that edge
Ryder Ramirez
It's not like there's really anything we could do about it anyway. The internet allows pretty much anyone to be involved with anything. If you have a niche hobby on the internet the best you can do is sit in the shadows with like minded people and hope that no normies stumble on your interest and proceed to go tell fucking everyone about it. It only takes one to ruin it for everyone. You can lock your forum but they can bypass that or create new more popular forums. You can become toxic as fuck to try to drive them away but that not only erodes and fragments your own community but also often empowers normies and they'll end up overwhelming you with sheer numbers. Any way you think about it you're fucked.
David Baker
Basically this.
Kevin Jones
Indifferent. There are plenty of shows that adapt from established series compared to original productions and I only watch 5 shows at most per season these days.
Angel Ross
You don't get it, maybe Space Dandy was targeted towards americans? Me and all my friends hated it (even japan), but americans for some reason seem to love it.