Youtube gun control

Thoughts, /k/?


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It's well within their rights to do so. If you can't stand them doing this, you are against the first amendment, plain and simple.

Try checking catalog/archive before posting, retard.

>first amendment
>private companies

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>private company's stifling free speech is legal therefore you can't complain!!!
I can't wait until social media is legally a utility so this bullshit will stop.

How are they stifling free speech? Make your own platform if you hate it, or go to another like many gun youtubers have.

Post yfw youtube inadvertently makes pornhub the dominant video hosting site on the internet because they assumed that everyone would accept censorship rather than switch sites

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Pic related. It's you.

Youtube/Google has become a harmful monopoly. They need to cut the shit or be broken up.

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imagine thinking a global publicly-traded corporation with an $800 billion market cap is a "private company"

Do you think that these companies are not taking their ques from the political elite?

>Censorship is an attack on free speech!
See where you're wrong, kiddo?

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>Youtube/Google has become a harmful monopoly.

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no. there are many overlapping elites, politics is merely one weapon. why use it when corporate censorship works better?

No. there is legal precedent for preventing private institutions from stifling free speech under certain circumstances, which is exactly what youtube is doing. furthermore google is arguably a monopoly and should be broken up for that alone.

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STOP!! JUST STOP POSTING THIS FUCKING THREAD!!! THERE HAVE BEEN TWENTY FUCKING THREADS ON THIS IN THE PAST TWO DAYS!!! JUST FUCKING STOP!!!

This isn't one of those circumstances at all

Oh noes the shills might need an actual job now!

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They're certainly allowed to say what should be put on their website. However youtube and google are so big it's impossible for them to have competition and should probably be broken up.

ban vids of a legal product being used legally, yet fine with all the other vids showing illegal acts

i hate the world at times

this corporate censorship has become the go to for getting changes you want made.

>its not censorship
just because it doesn't violate the 1st and who ever thinks that is retarded doesn't mean this isn't censorship

Thanks, Judge Faggotron, but your dumb opinion doesn't count for much here.

>say something erroneous, specific and completely untrue all at the same time and somehow think its relevant
>someone points this out
>HJURRRRRRR FAGET

There is literally no precedent or anything that would ever obligate youtube or google as a whole from being obligated to follow the 1st amendment like the government can

In the same way that US internet is third world tier because of local monopolies

Do you see the irony in your statement?

1946 Marsh vs. Alabama
1968 Amalgamated Food Employees Union v. Logan Valley Plaza

>the right to speak freely somehow is the right to stop people from speaking freely
>companies, specifically monopolies having the same rights as citizens

>1946 Marsh vs. Alabama
This pertained to a company town in which people lived in but a company owned. Youtube would NEVER fall under this precedence purely because youtube doesn't physically exist in such a way that physically inhibited people's freedom. By living in the town people were forced to adhere by the social structure around it. No where are you ever forced to use youtube in any sociologically constructed fashion.


>1968 Amalgamated Food Employees Union v. Logan Valley Plaza
>1. Peaceful picketing carried on in a location open generally to the public is, absent other factors involving the purpose or the manner of the picketing, protected by the First Amendment.
In no way would youtube follow under this either for the exact same reason as above, youtube doesn't physically exist and it doesn't impede anyones rights in anyway possible.

I'm far more concerned about the crackdown on gun content on reddit. Now all these faggots are going to come over here. If you're from reddit and you're reading this go to fucking arfcom with the rest of your nuboomer friends.

>it doesn't impede anyones rights in anyway possible.
literally banning people based on what they express using the first amendment.

No it doesn't. They don't persecute you outside of their property thats why this doesn't work. Youtube isn't public property and they don't physically exist so they cannot physically ascertain your rights the same way the post office did in Marsh v Alabama because the private property doesn't physically exist for you to be in freely the same way that a private shopping plaza is a public space.

Youtube isn't preventing you from exercising your rights the same way Marsh was at the post office or protesters were at a shopping center. Youtube isn't a private entity in a public setting.

You don't have to use YouTube. Nobody is forcing you to watch videos, and there are other outlets for you to express yourself online. They are a company and can choose to host the content they so desire.

I've never understood why people assume youtube and google owe them anything.

How old are you? Honestly, I'm curious.

Kids have grown up with youtube and google, and are accustom to the services provided by these sites. Youtube and google have become so prolific, that people assign status to them that doesn't actually exist. They don't remember the days when search engines were just getting off the ground, and don't see the humble origins of video sharing. They worship online giants, and because they are giants kids assume that they are obligated to play fair. Protip: google has no such obligation

YouTube has a monopoly position (maybe 99% of non pornographic videos on the internet) so you can't really argue that there are other venues for expressing yourself.

It's as if the government banned you from expressing yourself in public places but it would be fine because you could still voice your opinions in the woods.

Youtube isn't the government

>Wahhh big brother won't share his toys with me
Get your own toys
People who care about freedom should build their own platform, rather than use the platform of those who actively seek to oppress

yes it is
do you see the faggots here that bitch to no end when when youtube does something they dont like?

Yeah, so you can't defend yourself against it with the law. /actual_conservacucks

You dumb nigger, there is no way to build your own platform without Google eating you.

the free market fucking failed. Go jerk off to Ayn Rand or something.

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You are arguing for what you think youtube should do. You are arguing your opinion.

You want to take autonomy away from a private enterprise. Is that how you seek to achieve your goal of freedom?

What part of "monopoly" you fail to grasp?

It's going to get even worse with net neutrality going the way of the dodo.

>there's a difference between the political and the corporate elite

>I'm too stupid or unskilled to achieve this goal, therefore nobody can!

If everyone operated on your level, civilization would never have progressed beyond nomadic tribes running down prey

Net neutrality a kill

This is a good thing. If consumers demand firearms content and are willing to pay for it, ISPs will lean heavily on platforms such as youtube to allow the content

>government wants to make ownership of guns illegal
>you bitch because you own a gun and if you keep it after the law is passed you will be sent to jail because youre a criminal
>your life is at stake if the government passes it

>youtube wants to ban gun channels
>you bitch because you own a gun channel and monetize thousands of $$$$ from it and if youtube took it away you will have to spend you whole life getting a real job instead of being some meme gun jesus no life nigger that show up on camera, read wikipedia articles about guns and beg people to donate to your patreon everyday like a degenerate no education, no life soyboy fuck
>your life is at stake if youtube passes it

>youtube
>not the government

are you fucking serious now

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Instead of passing laws, we just need to build integrate video hosting with blockchain so it becomes truly decentralized

fuck you retard
gun jesus or ian mccollum doesnt have a real job and flipped guns on auctions before he became big on youtube.
he's uneducated and will make minimum wage IRL if his channels are deleted.

Then use someone else. If they don't want your money, take it elsewhere.

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>you own a gun channel and monetize
In this scenario you are a subcontractor of Youtube, but without a legally binding contract. You are in no way guaranteed or entitled to employment.

Youtube also does not have a legally binding constitution allowing all voices equal opportunity to express themselves.
Do you throw this big of a stink when Fox, CNN, or MSNBC presents news with a bias, or only calls forth commentators with a perspective congruent with their narrative?

no fuck you
other sites DO NOT monetize content creators and even if they do theyre not enough to cover the production costs due to the extremely low popularity of the site.
youtubers want make money you dumb motherfucker
thats why we got patreons
thats why we got merchs

fuck off with your hippie commie "guys lets do it for the love of our hobby ok" shit

>can't wait until social media is legally a utility
Sounds like you need to vote Democrat then, friend.

You are either high or have a learning disability. What the hell are you on about?

I fucking might if Republicans continue to surrender my rights while empowering corporations that advocate for the stripping of said rights.

Pornhub monetizes content creators. Granted, it's usually amateur cosplay porn or whatever, but still.

It amazes me how conservatives are always screaming about ''snowflake'' liberals and how fair American capitalism is until they're the victim of corporate power.

>Standard Oil - 1911
>AT&T - 1974
Nice service ya got there. I'd be shame if something were to happen to it.

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Don't worry, the Republicans will sell the idea of corporate-ized internet out for a dime and then Democrats will take come take your guns.

:^)

hes saying youtube gives shitloads of money to /k/ approved youtubers and if youtube fucks with their channels theyre gonna lose a large portion of their income and have to find other ways to make money for a living, likely something like what the fuck ever retarded 9-5 job youre doing now.

learn some basic reading comprehension dumb nigger.

Jewtube

In his own post he mentioned patreon and merch

InRange has been off the youtube teet for a while now and subsists on patreon donations. Your point is invalid

You are not entitled to YouTube dollars. You signed a contract with them and they changed the terms, don't like that vote for the fucking commie Democrats.

You know I never knew what Ian actually does for a living. Is youtube and patreon his fulltime job?

why are you guys so afraid to just say jews

Forgotten weapons is still monetized. Inrange was demonitized because Ian's buddy wanted it to be like that. He said hes guilty charging his patreon while at the same time forces them to view ads.

GTFO Google is run by normal people, you cant just cover your eyes and ears and scream about jews. That doesn't accomplish anything and detracts from the issue at hand

YouTube physically exists in California, from where they operate their public forum.

If they want to be a private service they can lock down all content behind a login wall.

They just opened themselves but up to lawsuits.

Alphabet, Inc. has no lawyers, good thing you're here to set them straight!

However it proves that it is feasible to run a youtube channel off of patreon donations.

God forbid Ian gets a real job and slightly decreases the rate at which he makes videos.

Because they're not all Jewish and you'll leave yourself with blind spots as well as make yourself immediately dismissible by the vast majority of people if you only focus on the Jews.

>$0.05 shekels have been credited to your Google Play account. Thank you for supporting Google, goy!

>They just opened themselves but up to lawsuits.
Just saying that does not make it true.

No judge would rule youtube a public forum. They are a profitable company which provides a voluntary service

kek, what the fuck are you talking about?

I just can't wrap my head around this mindset. What makes you think that the jews have their shit together any better than the general population?

Look at the number of anti gun politicians and media executives and tell me how many "-steins" you find. Because I guarantee you that number is disproportionately large compared to the actual Jewish population.

"snowflake" liberals wasn't applied to corporate power, retard. And American capitalism is plenty fair as long as you don't let corps dominate. You act like this shit hasn't happened before.

I agree. I just don't want to hear liberals say they have ever cared about free speech when all media and corporations are tranny-loving, anti-gun, diversity-inclusive shitholes that will fire you for stating inconvenient facts.

Oh wait, I lost my job.

>Allowing corporate domination

You realize how anti-capitalism this is, right? A company that dominates earned that right. You're a fucking socialist.

You're not entitled to a job, sorry. I bet you're a millennial.

>Thoughts, /k/?

I made a PornHub account to watch gun content. I'm not even going to use an adblocker.


F.U.C.K. Y.O.U.T.U.B.E.

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I understand that you're being purposefully facetious, but even the most hardcore libertarians understand that there has to be some government oversight on shit like this. Nice argument though.

Did you say the same thing about actors, musicians, and other entertainers before?

Private company my ass

Google is literally owned by ABC. Alphabet. It's just another extension of government like China's Baidu

When the govt tells me what I cannot say or own
>DO NOT COMPLY
When corporations tell me what I cannot say or own
>Of course I'll comply with corporate policy, what are you some kind of socialist?

How many levels of ancap are you on my dude?

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dude, you really buy into corporate personhood don't you? even liberals don't like that shit.

Your viewpoint is warped. Youtube isn't dictating what you can say. They are controlling how you use their service.

Let's say I call an HVAC repair man to service my air conditioner. He tells me he doesn't service my brand of AC system and leaves. In that case, I would call a different serviceman who caters to my needs, in this case my AC system. I would not sprint to my computer and begin rageposting about how my right to AC service is being oppressed.

Gab is the new JewTube

Youtube is a company that provides a service. If you do not like their service, or do not agree with how they provide their service, then you are free not to use the service.

This

try dtube

It's time to regulate these tech companies. Between this and facebook leak, they clearly need regulation.
Liberals love regulation, right?

Thread dedicated to fighting this particularly distasteful development:

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Google throws something like 175-400 million dollars down the hole each year to keep youtube running. They literally lose more money running it every year than 99.99% of humans will make in a hundred lifetimes.

The free market does not support the existence of a credible alternative because it can only exist in the first place at the whim of interested parties throwing massive fortunes towards the end of owning the platform through which hundreds of millions of people access video daily.

And now we start to see them use that investment.

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Why not just go to a different video sharing site

And Google gets that money by selling data to advertisers and governments. If you're partially funded by government you can be subjected to regulation

So you're admitting you don't know what the first amendment is and you will suck corporate dick for little more than inaccurate information? Ok. I now have a picture of who you are.

Except Google has always been about "freedom of information," or so they claim

They haven't been for a while. So it's disgusting the amount of control they exert over the internet. They're a political entity and disgusting.

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