Please describe this child

Please describe this child

Sluggish

ugly

Cutest ghost ever

Sexy. Would fuck.

9/10 would attempt to bring home

Gives innovative blowjobs.

Dead.

trapped in a shit show

A literal goddess.

Best daughteru.

dumb dead snail bitch

Just ask Google

no longer lost

Masturbatory aid

;_;

Holy shit this

The characters are the show.

It would be a hell of a lot better without crab or cat.

delete this

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Does Crab have autism? Genuine question.

Best girl in her show, by far?
Cute as fuck
Strong bantz
High meme potential
Goddess

Jailbait cumdump

>by far?
Best girl for sure, but Shinobu and Karen are good too.

The bestest.

But if you sacrifice a small fraction of the bantz for a fuckload of actually good character development and legit charisma then you're describing Shinobu. Bantz isn't valuable enough to outweigh that.

I LIKE EVERY GIRL IN THIS SERIES
ALL OF THEM
SOME MORE THEN OTHERS
BUT STILL THERE IS NO ONE I DISLIKE
TRULY
FUCK ALL OF YOU
THANK YOU GOOD NIGHT

>High meme potential

Best girl

Shitsurei

a corrupter of morals

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Absolutely impossible to hate
Cute voice
Good banter
Distinctive character design

YAMEROO!!!

>that piano version of happy bite playing during the entire scene
I shed a tear. Snail truly was best girl

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>I shed a tear.
better than me, I cried like a bitch

Victim of severe child abuse.

Her VA really did a great job with her voice becoming progressively shakier during the dialogue.
youtube.com/watch?v=MZhwuWiTUhE

Prone to accidents

Made for hugging against her developed breasts and deep, passionate kisses.
Also, good handlebars.

>developed breasts

>developed breasts
Developed for the age she died and not for an adult women. That is what Araragi said.

She's a little cow.

(spoiler) You should be able to understand this (/spoiler)

Only those that haven't watched/read it would miss that joke you retard.

I think you'd be surprised. Not everyone is as smart as us.

Please don't pair me with someone that doesn't know how to use spoilers.

ded

22

Only girl Araragi objectively did a good job with
Also best girl so it's fine

the snail is not for lewding

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This
Snail is for playful harassment and headpats

fuck you OP
Why do you post my wife picture on Sup Forums.
I thought we have an agreement last night that you won't tell anyone about her.

Alive.

You post the wrong image? There's nobody in it.

I liked her untill it was revealed that she's actually an old hag in disguise. Disgusting.

>sasuga pedo

Perfect

she's from one of the most overrated anime of all time

Shinobu has no charisma. That's not me hating on her, her character background entails that she's a social sperg.

Also Hachikuji as a character is fine. Serves as a guide to Araragi without dumping shitloads of exposition all the time like every other character that does that, started out lost and alone but found someone to confide in through Araragi and finally gets a literal home at the end of Owari, and Araragi's entire slump starts at her exit from the story and ends with her return. It's not just the banter, that's like saying Shinobu is just muh Mr Donuts gag.

I like Shinobu as much as the next guy but you and I both know that it's more Nisio rarely confronting her arc upfront than it is her being some massively complex character when it comes to how she's written. Before you say that the anime cut stuff out for her, it did that for everyone barring Senjougahara.

I would use her to cheat on all of my tests.

Whats the point of this? I don't get it...
Are you saying every character in this show doesn't have charisma

How long before Nisio gets busted for child porn possession, molestation, or rape?

Good color palette.
Adorable characteristics
Cute design
Trapped in a garbage, terrible, awful, cringy and dumb series

Everything you guys seem to hate about the series seems to be pretty well-represented by Hachikuji in particular, I don't get comments like these.

He's right about Bat not really having charisma though (and that she has story-related reasons tying into this) I dunno what it is about this character that you guys are unable to say anything negative about when all the characters are designed to have flaws (and Nisio beats you over the head with this one in particular with no subtlety whatsoever at that)

>i-im just sayin characters have flaws
>look how fair i'm being
>proceeds to spew made-up bullshit about how much he hates shinobu for the 10,000th time

Excuses, excuses. Don't believe his lies.

>im just sayin characters have flaws
Yes? In response to saying "whats the point of this"

You're spewing bullshit and giving it a thin veneer of "being fair." You can only use the same stupid trick so many times.

>it's an autistic batfag attacks everyone over his waifu episode
Is it just Hachikuji that causes this? I don't get it.

>if's a retard says stupid bullshit, gets called out by multiple people, and then samefags to pretend he has support episode

>cringy
Found the redditor.

>I dunno what it is about this character that you guys are unable to say
I was just asking why are you saying "you guys"

>Which X would you Y?
>X is for ____
>This is a Japanese X
>X is cute, CUTE!
>I want to marry X!
>This is your X for tonight
>This is X, say something nice about her
>Describe this X
>DOUZO!
>X replaces the main character of the last anime you watched
>I want to commit a crime
>I want to protect that smile
>Best girls of their respective series

>You're spewing bullshit and giving it a thin veneer of "being fair."
>You can only use the same stupid trick so many times.
No idea what you're trying to say here. If you think I'm incorrect in saying Shinobu isn't charismatic then just say so, I can admit that I'm wrong or we can disagree or whatever the fuck. Or that all characters in this series have flaws if that's what you were referring to about me trying to pass off as "being fair".

What should I have said instead?

Also, by saying she has no charisma isn't it wrong? You have to be more specific in the "charisma" you are talking about because if we look at the show and novels Shinobu is a very charismatic person

>What should I have said instead?
Dunno. Maybe people? XD

If you're gonna go on your whole fucking spiel about how people need to be fair about listening to a character's flaws, at least say something that makes half a lick of sense. Of course people will think you're an annoying faggot if you talk about being fair about someone's flaws and then are unfair about their strengths in the next sentence.

I might be wrong here I suppose, no one earlier in the conversation defined "charisma" in any specific way but it generally means having a strong and charming presence in conversation, right? Doesn't seem right to me to describe Shinobu in that way when she has issues with that on top of pretty much being out-argued by everyone else in the cast.

>and then are unfair about their strengths in the next sentence
Where was I being unfair? I wasn't trying to be. I was just replying to someone saying what was the point in saying (or maybe just talking about in general?) Shinobu not being charismatic and if everyone was just not charismatic

Heroine material to be honest, the whole "she's her guide. he's her home" relationship was really cute and compelling I thought. Hope her book in Monster Season is good.

The problem is when I asked what was the point if this you just talked about bat and whatever you said. Thats why the user is angry at you.

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That won't work anymore, bitch. She's even stronger than Japanese truck drivers now.

The Araragi bathrooms is still a cathedral to reflect her massive force of presence she had in one single scene. She spent years as a legendary monster and is still able to feel like one with only a small fraction of the power. That's charisma. Yes, she can be put in human social situations that she doesn't know how to handle, but that's when she tries to rely on raw charisma to bluff through. It's at the point where calling out that bluff, like Kanbaru did in Shinobu Mail, has to be praised as courageous. Not knowing how to handle some social situations doesn't cancel out her massive charisma she has when dealing with situations she's comfortable with or her charm in normal conversation.

How did she react?

>The Araragi bathrooms is still a cathedral to reflect her massive force of presence she had in one single scene
You're probably not going to like this answer but that's more Shaft being Shaft than anything else and not related to her presence as a character, the bathroom (and the house in general) always looks nonsensically huge and over-the-top throughout the series.

>but that's when she tries to rely on raw charisma to bluff through
>Not knowing how to handle some social situations doesn't cancel out her massive charisma she has when dealing with situations she's comfortable with or her charm in normal conversation.
Perhaps it's just me being overly cynical but I really don't think those are examples of charisma at all, but rather that she just doesn't want to lose face. She has a lot of pride is too weak, in a number of ways, to back that up as much as she'd like to when it counts.

That Shinobu Mail scene with Kanbaru was definitely not her bluffing about anything, it was her not confronting a situation infront of her and I think it's too different a scenario context-wise to be related to this.

Shaft-isms aren't random. Shaft is trying to evoke particular emotions. With the bathroom, they were almost definitely trying to make the environment reflect Araragi's perception of Shinobu.

We're talking about charisma: force of presence due to appearance and surface mannerisms. The rest of your objections are unrelated to that. Also, holy shit, I can see why you have so many issues with people "being defensive" around you.

>With the bathroom, they were almost definitely trying to make the environment reflect Araragi's perception of Shinobu.
I don't think it was anything that specific, because like I said they do that all throughout the series with seemingly no rhyme or reason to it. Just Shaft being melodramatic in general, same thing happens in a lot of their shows that followed Bakemonogatari where people keep saying that they're rehashing Bake's style.

>The rest of your objections are unrelated to that.
How are they not? Shinobu has no force of presence when talking to anyone other that Araragi in private. I'm saying that she doesn't particularly have charisma, the lack of it being something she struggles with in the story. You said that her trying to talk to others at all and "bluffing" is charisma, I'm saying that's not what charisma is and that it's just her pride talking.

>Also, holy shit, I can see why you have so many issues with people "being defensive" around you.
I don't have issues with people being defensive around me though? All I said was that Shinobu's not charismatic and responded a few times to a person who kept saying I'm trying to uphold some sort of fair image on this anonymous board and that I'm trying to pull off some epic trick of some sort on everyone. Think what you want of me I guess, I still don't get what the fuck you're on about here.

Okay, I'm not going to discuss charisma with you, because you obviously have no idea what the word means. I hope you're just baiting, because it's kind of sad if you genuinely want to have a decent conversation about the series and are only being a massive faggot on accident.