Vermont Gun Control

Who here lives in Vermont and is watching this bullshit?

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This fuckhead LaLonde was trying to amend the Vermont senate endorsed bill S.55 to ban assault weapons, enforce storage in the home, raise purchase age to 21 and limit magazine sizes to 10rds.

Everything was defeated except for the raising of the age and magazine limitation. This doesn't stop other representatives from re-introducing it on the House floor.

This is fucking bullshit.

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>magazine limitation
fuck that pisses me off when they do that.

Dumb. All those laws are irrational. The only one that makes sense is raising the purchasing age and only for Urban (read: Black and Hispanic) cities.

They're trying to cram this through the House as quickly and quietly as possible. There has only been one public hearing involving two lawmakers in Barre on the amendments. No where else and they want this to be voted on on Friday.

This really brings my piss to a boil.

Purchasing age doesn’t even do anything because handguns are 21 and up so the only thing you’re doing is cucking people for 3 more years than you need to

>fucking Californian cuks with their 10rnd mags
>this will never come to my state
You fucking idiots stop this shit!

What are the chances this passes?

So there is still a chance for them to not go through then?

Not one inch user

I was looking at moving to Vermont. It's gun laws were great now this shit?
Do they even have that much gun violence?

you think they would try to ban handguns since they kill more people...

what a time to be alive

I don't know. We are fighting really hard to get public hearings. It looks like there is some bullshit going on that has been preventing our legislators from getting our emails and calls because they've been literally flooded with emails and calls of opposition.

There is a chance some non-Vermonter in the House to suck cock and bring up these amendments AGAIN and then have them possibly pass into law.

Vermont had 42 gun homicides from 2011 to 2016. 42.

It's these stupid fucking progressive faggots in our local government that are fucking everything up.

This shit is just a full on culture war. Some asswipes in the government never cared for guns so they impose their will on you and wreck your entire lifestyle.

LaLonde is a faggot ass Californian that moved to Vermont after getting his degrees in NY.

He's not even a true Vermonter as he lives in Burlington, the biggest cukc-ass liberal center in Vermont.

Fuck this progressive piece of trash.

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Pretty much.

At the public hearing in Barre there was like 30 pro-gun to 1 gun control people present and that is a high end ratio for the state. No one fucking wants this. It is being pushed on us.

>house panel

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Perhaps you don't understand that LaLonde's age restriction and magazine limit survived this panel and will be voted on on the House floor on Friday...with next to zero public input....where other House members could easily re-introduce the assault weapons ban that was parsed out during the panel.

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I went to college in LA
That city has a higher murder rate than the entire state of Vermont
Why punish responsible gun owners?
God Damn, why do they keep fucking trying this
I wish there was an image to show how butthurt/rage I'm feeling right now.
Every damn time

Ok now I'm fucking livid. I was applying to law school there, rip that dream.
They don't always get them legally.

I don't know why, I guess they hate America and Law abiding Americans just that much as to push this kind of lazy legislation on us.

There is zero logic in this amendment and just 100% emotion.

Now ya see the problem. This blue-eyed sage level cuck is trying to push his shitty home states bullshit on us 'fo' da chillin'!!'

You should have seen the testimony's on this panel. Fucking garbage. The only argument the pro-control had were emotional appeals.

This is a post from Vermont Federation of Sportsman's Clubs as they sent a formal letter to the House speaker.

Speaker Mitzi Johnson and Representative Maxine Grad

115 State Street
Montpelier, VT 05663
March 19, 2018
RE: Request for Public Hearing on S.55

Dear House Speaker Johnson and House Judiciary Chair Grad -

The coalition of Vermont-based firearms groups which is comprised of the Vermont Federation of Sportsman's Clubs (VTFSC), the Vermont Traditions Coalition (VTC) and the Gun Owners of Vermont (GOVT), have all noted several issues which we bring to your attention.

The first issue involves our constituent's ability to be in contact with their elected officials by email and telephone, which is conversely having the effect of denying legislators the ability to hear from their constituents. Regarding calls, it appears that calls being made to the Sergeant At Arms have overwhelmed that office, such that individual messages are no longer being disseminated in favor of building and then disseminating "call log sheets" which is an unprecedented action. In talking to the Sergeant At Arms Office, we believe we understand that these "Call log sheets" are theoretically being disseminated to House Judiciary - but we have learned from some members of that committee that they are not seeing these "call log sheets". Regarding Email, we have been made aware that some emails from our constituents are apparently being directed to individual legislator's SPAM folders, when "SPAM Engines" are not being used by any of us for contacting Legislators.

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As important, if not more so, is the fact that bills like S.6, in addition to the change of Age to purchase a firearm, never received any discussion in any Senate Committee, effectively preventing any testimony on these aspects to that body. Beyond that, we note that S.6, in addition to the proposed change in age to purchase a firearm, the proposed ban on Semiautomatic Assault Rifles, the proposed ban on high-capacity magazines, the proposal to require safe storage of firearms when not in possession, and the proposal of a waiting period in S.55 ALL HAVE NEVER BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY OF A PUBLIC HEARING.

In reviewing the House Judiciary schedule for last week, we further note that it was at one time proposed that, despite having a bundle of amendments to S.55 being added as of Tuesday the 13th; last week's scheduled reflected a possible Committee vote on passage for Thursday the 15th, with a definite vote on Friday the 14th - which meant that there was the expectation that this all could be discussed, carefully considered and deliberated in under 4 days. Even though the schedule was subsequently changed such that a final Committee vote now appears to be scheduled for 10 AM Wednesday the 21st, there is every appearance that this momentous piece of legislation will be rammed through House Judiciary in a little over a week with exceedingly limited public input.

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Combined, we find these things troublesome and unexpected as a fair and balanced deliberative process that Vermonters expect from their elected representatives. The amendments being proposed are monumental, and if passed will result in a significant impact on Vermonters, particularly those Vermonters between the ages of 18-20. We therefore respectfully request that the House take the prudent action that is expected of a deliberative body, and allow for a Public Hearing that will allow Vermonters to speak to the issues at hand, and we suggest that this NOT be limited to only two hours. Any other course of action would be injurious to the law-making process that is to be expected from our Legislature, a process which should allow Legislators to hear directly from Vermonters.

Signed:

Chris Bradley, President - VTFSC

Ed Larson, Executive Director - VTC

Ed Cutler, President - GOVT

cc: Governor Phil Scott

Lt Governor David Zuckerman

All Vermont Senators

All Vermont Representatives

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LOL at you retards who thought you could vote for liberals and still keep your guns. You deserve this. Have fun being New York 2.0

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I never asked for this.

These limp dicks moved from places like NY, NJ, CT and MA to come shit up our state.

Most of the power comes from the wealthy liberal centers like Montpelier and Burlington.

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Here's the videos of the dispositions.

The one that deals with facts and reality:

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Think of the children goy:

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As a former connecticunt, I'm sorry for my people. I got out last year to TN, but I really wanted to go to Vermont. Guess that dreams about to die.

>house panel

literally fucking nothing

Wow, a Dem controlled state is passing gun control. It's almost like they're a completely antigun party or something.

The state's doomed. Transplants from Mass and Cal will ruin it. LaLonde's a perfect example. I have milk in my fridge that's been here longer than him.

I don't understand how the US government works. Can I get a tl;dr on what the hell is going on.

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Cuckifornia legislator in Vermont amended a bill that passed the Vermont Senate. Amendment would ban 'assawt wepns' and do a ton of other useless shit that has already been proved to not work.

Vermont people are pissed because there has been virtually zero input from the public while they are silently shoving it through the Vermont government for a rushed vote on Friday.

Typical Democratic tactics.

im surprised your socialist cuckstate took this long to go full commie. turn in those guns, bernie voters. dumb faggots

are you dumb? they literally have voted bernie sanders as their senator for 50 years. they are a fucking communist haven

Vermont has one of the oldest traditions of gun ownership and sportsmanship in the United States. That might contribute to it.

This will be a disaster one way or another.

I can't help but wonder, when the elected officials really have no resemblance to those they represent.. When do we finally utilize our 2nd ammendment?

I get that we don't want violence, but man.. Where the fuck is the line? God help me if Wyoming's governor tried this shit, I can't imagine what might happen. We hang fags on barb wire up here.

please tell me this isn't going through? I know that this isn't going to the public but the house is full of pro gun owners right???

>Vermont has one of the oldest traditions of gun ownership and sportsmanship in the United States. That might contribute to it.This will be a disaster one way or another.
In your honest opinion, how bad do you think this could get?
t.Georgiafag

Because the goyim need to be disarmed before they become a minority.

FL here
we feel your pain. Let us know how to help.

kill a politician

Gotta say, it's funny to watch you guys who had 0 support for the states that got hit first start to see it in your state. Once it starts, it does not stop and they'll ship in enrichment when they need the violence or votes. I'll leave you with some sage advice.
>just move lol

They'll just get replaced by an even more incompetent politician.

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If this wouldn't just play right into the gun grabber's hands and allow them to grow public support, I'd endorse this view.

When the time comes to kill politicians, we need to do it all in one wave across the country, dotr style, or you'll just accomplish the opposite of what you set out to do and make them a martyr for their cause.

I would peacefully object if it did pass, but there is a limit.

With an arrow

No idea where you get the zero support idea from.

And then they'll pull the same bullshit somewhere else until nowhere is safe.

It'd be interesting if Vermont were to start the 2nd civil war

I thought there was some conservative element hence the gun laws. Jesus I forgot about Sanders. Commies, they ruin everything
Now I'm kinda surprised that they didn't get rid of guns earlier.

I told you, dawg. I told you about the gungrabbers.

- Masshole

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Bong here, that sucks. I went to Vermont as a kid and jumped in a HUEG pile of leaves, that's all I remember. Fight that shit every inch of the way though, it looks like the anti-funs are really ramping it up these days. Don't allow them even the smallest victory.

This meant for

My dad is going to be pissed when he hears about this. He's from Vermont. I never thought you guys would fall.

They won’t stop until they start dying. I don’t care how they spin it, but when politicians start to get assasinated every time when they assfuck us like this piece of spineless shit in OP, they will think twice. Then they’ll start respecting us. I wouldn’t fuck for too long with American gun owners as I’m seriously getting fed up with this infantilization of American politics and the broad assumption that there are never repercussions to their actions. Anyway, I’m just kidding my whole post is a satire

This actually might have scuttled the bill.

There's another gun control bill going through now that's a comparative lay up. It's one of those "extreme protection order" deals. One senator has mentioned that they're not touching this grab bag of shit until the protection order bill has passed.

I don't want to play Nostradamus and end up looking like an asshole, but my hope is that the pols go for the path of least resistance and let this one die.

We might end up losing an inch, but hopefully not a mile. I'm not optimistic about this state in the long run though, it's going to end up like NY, CA, or Illinois where a few liberal cities steamroll the rest of the state.

there's nothing wrong with the protection orders anyways

My main objection to them is that they'll end up being abused like retraining orders. I know of a few guys who had frivolous restraining orders slapped on them prior to a divorce to make it a slam dunk in the women's favor.

and you where expecting different results?

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Also, the whole "Not one crumb of cake from my cold dead hands" argument. We need to fight about things we don't care about so we don't have to fight for the things we do care about.

>nothing wrong with protection orders
>i'm ok with people being guilty until being proven innocent

hmm

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A lot of people I know have been writing and trying to call into their legislators.

Hopefully these fuck-wits get the message that their backwards 'progressive' agendas are not welcome here.

Gee mod thanks a lot for moving this to Sup Forums when it was nearly archived you worthless fucking retard

What is the minimum age currently?
I need to be 25 and have several licenses to buy a handgun here...

>This fuckhead LaLonde
when you jerk off pray that he dies when you come, pray that all like him die when you come

it will come true if you do this

>I never asked for this.
>These limp dicks moved from places like NY, NJ, CT and MA to come shit up our state.
you did ask for it, you ever notice the high level of jewishness in your state, you assholes voted for this

WELCOME TO NEW YORK/CALIFORNIA/FLORIDA WHERE YOUR RIGHTS DON'T MATTER

Only cucks obey Jewish disarmament laws.

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>cucked /k/ mods moved another gun-related thread to Sup Forums i'm fucking surprised

They're not from my county, so I couldn't vote against them. The cock hungry liberals in Burlington put this douche in the House.

I try so hard to prevent these types of people from getting into the House, but it is near impossible when you live in heavily liberal areas of Vermont where the overwhelming consensus is be a good little goy.