Is subaru the ideal husbandobait? do remfags love her because they self insert as her?

is subaru the ideal husbandobait? do remfags love her because they self insert as her?

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Girls self-insert as Emilia to be with Subaru.
Guys self-insert as Subaru to be with Rem.

Yes.
No.

Gay boy here

I'd turn myself into a girl just so I could be properly fucked by Subaru

>Girls self-insert as Emilia
I'm pretty sure most of them self insert as julius for subaru.

>is subaru the ideal husbandobait?
yes
>do remfags love her because they self insert as her?
yes.

Those are just fujos.

...

he has to dedicate everything to his waifu for 400 years first.

>is subaru the ideal husbandobait?
Yes, the man spoils Rem like no tomorrow
>do remfags love her because they self insert as her?
No. But I wish I had a relationship like theirs.

>I wish I had a relationship like theirs.
>I love Emilia
>It's okay, I'll be your 2nd wife uguu :)
Yeah, I can see why you want that.

Looks like we've spotted someone who hasn't read the WN yet.

How do you self insert? How does that work? Teach me.

And I have spotted an delusional Remtard.

Whatever you say user, you can stay buttmad all you want it won't change a thing.

Roswaal can't be all that great with his dedication considering Echidna straight up doesn't give a fuck that he's still there and just leaves him hanging to fuck off on her own at the end of arc 4 (though to be fair to Echidna, leaving Roswaal to suffer alone was the correct choice)

Is seasonal waifu/husbando the same than wafu/husbandobait?
Generally, I avoid any threads with those kind of words in there.

Rem is a garbage waifubait. Subaru doesn't love her at all.

>They sleep comically in the same bed
>THEY ARE A COUPLE
Lol.

Subaru is a shit-tier husbando because he loves more than one girl. If I self-inserted as one, I would get massively jealous of the other one and want to kill both her and him. 0/10 would not husbando

Yes and no. Its seasonal i their season is in. Non-seasonal if their season is out.

can't hear you over this lewd kiss.
>Like this, our breaths became entwined. All this happened so suddenly that I had no chance to react and defenselessly accepted her kiss. For the first time, I experienced the feeling of a warm, soft tongue probing past my teeth, invading my mouth. My brain completely short circuited, and any remaining rational thought burned away.
>After a moment, or a few seconds, or even tens of seconds, our lips finally separated slowly. They remained connected by silken liquid threads, which the woman gently cut off with her fingers.
or this very cute moment
>???: “This pain of yours in one that I can understand. When I was a child, my poor use of my mana gate resulted in an accumulation of excess magic. With it came a terrible pain that no one could understand.”
>The moment I heard those words, my last line of defense fell, and tears began streaming down from my watering blue eyes. As I burst into sobs, my knees gave out and I landed on the floor, hands over my face. The woman knelt by me and tenderly stroked my shaking shoulders.
and besides tea party dona =/= teacher dona.

Subaru a shit.

He's brute forcing life because he's too stupid to figure it out the first dozen times, with the emotional maturity and self-awareness of a child.

Why people continue to gargle his cock sauce is beyond me.

Only Rem gargles his cock sauce.

t. Satella

They're buzzwords used by those with low IQs.

What makes Subaru such a good dad?

[Rem: Say “I love you”…]

Rem spilled these words out with a faint, frail voice while looking up at Subaru.

In her vision which had become blurred by the swell of tears that gushed up, she saw Subaru shake his head. After that, Subaru brought his face close to her and said,

[Subaru: I love you(suki da)]

[———–]

[Subaru: I love you(daisuki da). Isn’t that obvious…If you aren’t with me, I can’t live on…]

It was his true feelings. If you were to say that this was when he spilled everything out, that wouldn’t be an exaggeration and would be an accurate statement. If it wasn’t for her, he wouldn’t come this far. If she were to disappear, he would not be able to live on.

[Rem: Ahhh…I’m happy…]

Accepting Subaru’s confession, Rem felt a tear alongside her closed eyes. Taking in Subaru’s words happily, her face quickly blushed. Soon after, it now really did seem that all power within her body had departed.

[Subaru: Wait…]

[Rem: I love you(aishiteimasu), Subaru-kun]

[Subaru:Don’t fuck with me, stay by my side. You’re going to leave me with regrets again!?]

Subaru could not bear to live in a near future where Rem would cease to exist. Along with knowing this fact since long ago, her existence still has become sooo much more important to him, compared to long ago. So,

[Subaru: In the future where I talk while smiling, I need you…I don’t want this]

[Rem: In that future, is it okay if I stay by your side?]

[Subaru: ….Isn’t the answer obvious? I won’t let you go to anyone else’s side.]

Wiping off her tears that were suspended on her eyelids, Subaru looked straight at Rem and said:

[Subaru: You are mine. I won’t let anyone have you.]

The best part is he does it every night

>I'll be ur 2nd wife uguu :)
I try to find something from Rem that I could respect, but I just don't find anything.

Jesus christ user you need to calm down a bit this is a satire thread

I try to find substance in your posts that I could reply to, but I just don't find anything.

>literally gave his life just to be friends with her
>constant spoiling
>throws festivals for you in your name
>its ok if she killed me once I still love her
>a good dad and has taken 3 daughterus under his wing
>knows women's fashion better than any of the girls
>/fit/
>is in your beck and call if you want to eat together or cuddle
>makes workshops in order to alleviate your problems
>will push you to be the best you can be because he wants to not because he needs to
>would strangle people who shittalks about you
>loyal enough to go to a suicide tower to see you smile again

Subaru is, and always will be. The ideal husbandobait.

Don't worry, I don't expect someone who fell for a waifubait to be intelligent enough to find substance from my posts.

>Subaru is husbandobait
>Rem is waifubait
Glad to know you acknowledged them being perfect for each other.

...And you acknowledge that they are bait characters?

Of course, much like how Rem is waiubait Subaru is husbandobait. Subaru is the ideal male after-all.

Have you acknowledged the futility of existence? You do nothing but reply to fags telling them that their tastes are husbandobait/waifubait in a endless cycle. What you are doing is contributing to the singularity of shitposting constantly sucking time away from actual meaningful activities for yourself and the fags you are replying to.

I don't think that Subaru is an ideal male at all. Far from it.

please.

Would that mean Rem isn't the ideal female?

Reinhardt doesn't even have dad and fashion instincts.

Waifubait doesn't mean that she is an ideal female. It means that she is a slut that is always ready to drink your semen. Her entire reason for existing is to be Subaru's fucktoy. The reason you want to think that Subaru is some sort of "ideal male" is because you want to think that Rem being a 2nd wife isn't that bad if she is "the ideal male's" 2nd wife. Rem and you are both as pathetic.

>Clothes designing: Can design fabulous clothes that will surely start a fad.

Ah I see, so Subaru is still husbandobait then huh? Because Subaru is basically willing to go through the same thing with Rem.

Subaru himself loves Emilia, Subaru's dick loves Rem. He is no husbandobait.

>Subaru himself loves Emilia, Subaru's dick loves Rem. He is no husbandobait.
Subaru loves Rem more than Emilia.

He doesn't.

Must suck that they consider each other second fiddle to their favorites. It probably explains why they spoil each other so much. Truly they are both husbando and waifubait.
Yes much like how Rem loves Ram more than Subaru.

>all this mental gymnastics over a buzzword
This is sad.

>It means that she is a slut that is always ready to drink your semen.
So
>Subaru: “There's lots of hot girls out there whose bodily fluids I don't have the resolve to drink so no! Or really even if I had the resolve I don't want to drink anything called 'bodily fluids'! My fetishes are vanilla!”
>Subaru is not excited by spit or sweat or whatever excretions. He thinks.
---
>If they were Rem's, he might just think otherwise. His heart quietly hides the thought.

Husbandobait.

He sees Rem as a sex toy.

I they look each other the say way I see no problem with this.

>Rem: “Please show me once again the Subaru-kun that I love.”
>With her hand set against his cheek, Rem raises Subaru's head to look at him straight on. Her lips pause maybe in hesitation, and slowly, her face approaches his. Even his laggard consciousness can comprehend what she is doing, and what will be done to him.
>Immediately near, within breathing range, the lips of a darling girl loom in. Would it not be fine to overlay, to intertwine, luxuriate, acquiesce and drown?
>—She was already pardoning him whether he was right or wrong.
>Just to what extent had Rem's words gently permeated Subaru's heart? His frayed emotions, his soul shrieking for someone to reach out, were by this girl who understood everything of Subaru, right now, saved again.
>To powerless Subaru, Rem offered her hand. To brittle Subaru's back, Rem offered her support. To foolish Subaru's path, Rem offered her escort.
>Imposing on those, clinging, depending completely—if that would guide to the correct answer, then... Where was the point in struggling alone?
>He was abraded wholly, he didn't know where his footing lie, he no longer knew which was the direction to walk, and so, on absolutely everything, just give up, yield—
>???:
>Subaru: “—”
>???:
>Subaru: “—”
>???:
>A voice.
>Rem: “—Subaru-kun?”
I don't think most men are evoked with this much emotion to their sex toy.

Subaru has never before had a living sex doll.

Is that why Rem is able to unconsentually lewd him all those times?

Correct

>Weak enough to tease and bully
>Also forcibly lewd

Truly he is the ideal male

>Subaru pulls a chair over and seats himself beside the bed. Moonlight slips in through the crack in the curtains, illuminating her face as she sleeps.
>The light of the moon spills over her pale face, pink lips. She is a sleeping beauty with short blue hair, her curvy body garbed in thin negligee, her chest rising and falling in time with her breathing. >—She has slept for over a year now.
>Subaru: “Got lots of things to tell you today. Since some guests showed up uninvited, and with this crazy offer. I started my day with my usual—”
>Subaru speaks calmly to her as she sleeps. He uses his same comedic phrasing as always, but his tone is incredibly gentle. He speaks as though lulling a child to sleep as he cheerily tells her about his day.
>She doesn't respond. Even so. These trysts unfold every night. Tonight is rife with things to discuss. Until the moon sits low in the sky, the tale goes on between Subaru and the Sleeping Beauty.
By your logic he has one right here, but instead he does nothing but talk to it all night.

Like I said, he has never had a living sex doll before. People talking to their non-living dolls is not that uncommon, so I guess a living one makes him all talkative.

>mfw he loves you more for doing so

That's a blessing not an instinct.

>Subaru even tried so hard to become friendly with Rem as much as anyone else was that he literally died.
>[Subaru: She simply did that. That was not fun.]
>[Liliana: What is up with you, Mr. Maid? Even if you make such a whiny look, it’s neither cute nor pleasant at all. You need to look at yourself objectively more.]
He died to be your friend. Would you die for him?

Truly Subaru is a man all men aspire to be.

Am I the only one that thinks Julius should have been the Sword Saint instead? Reinhard can go suck my dick. The only thing he's better than everyone else is being luckier than them and being granted an OP blessing. Never in his life has he worked hard to earn his place and get where he is now. Everything just comes so easy to him. His Sword Saint title is so fucking undeserving.

t. ayamatsu subaru

>constant spoiling
>fairytale prince level devotion onto the girl
great but no thanks. Feels way too one sided and has no focus on himself. What's the point in a husbando you can't even dish out what he gives in return?

That's the thing, you have to compensate for him to counterbalance the fact he feels no concern over his well being in regards for you.

But why? That sounds awful. A codependent relationship like that leaves no room for his own time, and becoming the emotional epicenter for a person who doesn't look after their own internal needs is exhausting and one of those "girl's role" things I hate in shoujo and husbandofag stuff.

That's why you push him to better himself and become he man you'd love the most. Relationships are made for building, not for settling. Besides there is nothing wrong with being each other's emotional epicenter if its dealt with properly.

>What's the point in a husbando you can't even dish out what he gives in return?
That's the thing, Rem gives him her all in return.
>That's why you push him to better himself and become he man you'd love the most.
This.

>Subaru: “You'd listen to my whinging, let me spew out my whining, let me wring myself out on tears and everything until the tap's all dry...”
>notRem: “—”
>Subaru: “—And say, stand up.”
>Natsuki Subaru remembered with all his soul the daintiness of her fingers, the warmth of her skin, the scale of her love. And so crystal clear, to this Rem—to this imposter, he'd well damn say it.
>Subaru: “She would not say 'rest now.'”
>notRem?: “—”
>Subaru: “She would not say 'give up, task everything to me.'”
>notRem?: “—”
>Subaru: “Loving me, loving her, kind to me, in love with me—and more than anyone in the world strict on me, unsparing to me, that girl is Rem!”
>Springing to his feet, Subaru howls as he takes distance from this Rem before him, keeping her in his sights. Still on her knees, Rem looks up at Subaru from her low position wordlessly. Even now he could about drown from the sadness in her expression at being rejected.
>notRem: “No, no no. Please listen, Subaru-kun! I, I was wrong. Just, I couldn't bear watching you in suffering... and so, I merely, I wanted you to forget the pain and rest for now, that was all!”
>Subaru: “I'll let you see my weakness. I'll let you see my frailty. I'll let you see that I'm a pathetic, worthless bastard. —But I'll never let you see me giving up.”
>Subaru is a hero, Rem had said. I will act being as Rem's hero, Natsuki Subaru had decided.
>Ever since they shared their promise, Subaru had resolved. —That in this world, this universe, the only time he could show his weakness, was when with Rem.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I really see the same things in Rem and Subaru's relationship that everyone else does. However, I do dislike being an absolutely dense motherfucker being used to extend romantic development needlessly, when that's clearly the main obstacle. Which is how I see Subaru and Emilia. Emilia isn't some girl with high standards who is nigh-unattainable unless you do your best. She's mostly just dense and ignorant, really.

Rem is actually more critical and has higher standards than Emilia, but is emotionally ready and willing for a relationship. Even considering the idea of starting a family. Which would itself be a reasonable obstacle to starting a relationship from Subaru's side. Rem comes on too strongly and shows signs of emotional instability and mental issues. Subaru knows she likes him, and this makes him uncomfortable. Rem is cute and sweet, but she's also a clingy stalker who likes to mess with him. And Subaru is trying to focus on another girl, and the maid doesn't really fit into his ideal love story.

To me, Subaru falling in love with Rem is just more interesting. The fact it doesn't happen under the cleanest and most ideal conditions is good. Subaru is clearly attracted to Rem from the beginning, but the process of fully falling for her involves his sense of purpose and identity being gradually eroded before she props him back up. Because it's a timeloop, Rem herself hasn't changed much since the loop began, her mental issues still clearly there, but Subaru has. The way he's latched onto her, and living up to her ideals, actually seems rather selfish and emotionally messy.

I'm quite curious as to the different ways that could all develop.

...

Anyhow, skimming this right now, and it seems to be a comic about when Rem was taking care of Subaru, and he's complaining about how uncool it's making him since it's practically devolved into some weird baby fetish shit with how she's trying to help him eat, bathe, and use the bathroom and will hardly leave him alone day or night. When he finally explains it all to her, following Ram's advice, about how he wants to look cool in front of girls and how all this pampering makes him look uncool, Rem seems to agree and says she wants to see cool Subaru too.

Next panel is that chase scene, where she explains she actually doesn't care what kind of Subaru he is. Cool or uncool, she's not taking her eyes off him.

...

>Q: What’s the most interesting question you’ve been asked?
>A: Someone asked me if a certain character would die. I was shocked that they knew. I feel like if that came out, Re:Zero's mysteries would be completely revealed. So sometimes I say hi to them and hope that they’ve forgotten the spoiler.
>the answer made it sound like just knowing about this character's death would completely spoil "re:zero's mysteries", but I can't think of a character whose death would do that.
what about kenichi or naoko? future access to subaru's original world would definitely be a spoiler, maybe about something like the great waterfall?

I suppose that would reveal some of the mechanics of how one transfers between worlds.

Subaru-kun reverse harem for Beako!

That's actually what he calls it.

We got any arsonists in here?

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Every thread until Rem wakes up.

Naoko and Emilia both have that slanty eye corner thing going on.
Could Subaru be rocking some Oedipus tech?

>obnoxious neet
>ideal husbando bait

I don't get it.

She's also a dumbass, so yes.
>clingy stalker
>perfect waifu bait
It's almost like calling a character bait tends to involve ignoring all of a character's flaws. If you ignore every single bad thing about Subaru, he's the perfect husbando.

only obnoxious if Emilia is around

You could draw alot parallels between them which makes me worry that Emilia will forever be "useless" and be nothing without Subaru.

Emilia's not useless. She's just in the running for the wrong job position.

In other news, Subaru apparently fucked Wilhelm in the official Re:Zero anthology.

I didn't mean that she would be useless but like end up like Naoko if keiichi never stepped in and saved her. Well already Emilia would be dead several times without Subaru.

>ignoring all of a character's flaws

So, if one can ignore all the flaws, what makes him the perfect husbando?
Seriously asking as an animeonlyfag.

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Finished reading this. Turns out it was all a prank by Felix that got compounded by other matters, and caused Subaru to die 5 times before he figured out he wasn't gay. Lesson learned. Traps kill. He couldn't even look Rem in the eyes because of that faggot.
Oh, your general set of traits. Being sensitive and kind, paying lots of attention to a girl, devoting themselves to living up to that girl's ideals, sitting by coma girl's bedside to talk to her almost every night, and so on. The two-timing is a bit of an issue, but we're ignoring that for now.

Except the coma part and the two timer part, those traits are not unique to Subaru.

Isn't that just every nice guy protagonist in love?

I also forgot to mention the way he occasionally gets the urge to hit or murder people for insulting his coma girl or commenting on his relationship with her.

So Ferri is a husbandobait?

No. Ferri is a whore who gets people killed by making them question their sexuality, by climbing into their beds while they're asleep.

>Yes much like how Rem loves Ram more than Subaru.
Not quite. Rem has two number ones.

Prankster by night, Crusch-sama's husbando by day.

Sure, whatever you say. Hasn't the catfag book been released by now? I wonder if I'll have to buy that shit myself.

Physical version is on the way.