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>this kills the Libertarian
This kills the Libertarian
Cooper Torres
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Camden Barnes
Any anti-Capitalist or anti-Marxist redpills and discussion is welcome.
Michael Sullivan
Isaiah Russell
Jonathan Garcia
Ian Robinson
Julian Baker
Mason Jones
Jordan Johnson
Kayden Walker
Juan Nelson
have a bump
Luke Jackson
Capitalism is pretty much a failure.
>unlimited growth isn't sustainable
>ultra rich lobby government for either more immigrant labor or more outsourcing
>companies use planned obsolescence to design products that break which fill up our landfills
>private monopolies censor right wing opinions online
>wages continue to stagnate
It's about the most anti-nationalistic culturally left wing system you can imagine. National Syndicalism, Strasserism, National Socialism or pretty much any other form of right wing socialism is preferable to the anti-nationalist dumpster fire that is capitalism.
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Xavier Cruz
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Adrian Walker
Thanks for the bump, man. I was worried this thread would just die.
>strasserism
Lets not get carried away.
Truly a nice argument.
Isaiah Powell
Thanks. Added that version to my folder. Have this.
Angel Diaz
Liam Jackson
International capitalism (neocon/neolib) and International socialism (communism) are two sides of the same shekel.
Stop selling out your own people for the promise of profits from evil men.
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Chase Stewart
>Lets not get carried away.
Well despite your distaste for Strasserism, I don't get too hung up on ideologies or purity signalling. With that said, I'd say my overall points still stand, no?
Eli Green
Forgot link
Multiculturalism - Sir Oswald Mosley
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Kayden Cruz
They use it as an entry point to Marxism.
Jordan Brown
>work like slaves for scraps
if you're a pleb that's where you should be in society. the less you provide the less you earn, get over it commie
Austin Rogers
Whoops, that was for you.
Elijah Thomas
>market over saturated with degrees
>you can't get a job even with one, you also have to know people
What now?
Andrew Thomas
Those aren't Strasserites. Those are Commies attempting to use an ideology they don't know anything about to push communism. Strasserism is opposed to both communism and capitalism.
Not to mention, that infograph is pretty much wrong on multiple fronts.
If you read Germany tomorrow about half of the book is talking about ways to keep Germany from falling to bolshevism.
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Dylan Cruz
No problem lad. Try to keep it civil if possible, most of us were lolbergs once. The goal should always be to educate and uplift them, not shove them into the dirt.
I used to really hate Strasserists when I was first coming into Nat Soc, but i've come to believe that we'd be better off uniting for now and debating the technicalities later.
I still think Nat Soc is the better option, but i'd rather live under White Strasserism than Multi-culti capitalism if those were my only options. As long as a strasserist values nationalism more than economics (as I do), we can be brothers in arms.
>"It is not for ideas that we live, not for theories! Not for fantastic party programs! No, we live and fight for the German folk!"
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Nicholas Gray
I used to feel the same way about Hitlerites. I've come to the same conclusions. I don't really hold any ill will against Hitlerite NatSocs over a purge that happened decades ago. We have enough common goals to work together towards similar ends. The left is pretty much united against us, we're kind of at the point to where we as national socialists need to unite or die.
Dylan Long
>embrace the third position
>only gives 2 positions
2/10
Luke Rodriguez
bump
Luis Hughes
I used to think this as well, and there's nothing wrong with your intention here (to keep us free of bolshevism) but there are certainly some Strasserists who are earnest nationalists and simply have different economic opinions.
The best way to think of it is not as a "funnel" pulling Nat Socs left, but as a middle ground from where where we might gain more supporters in the long-run.
Even Goebbels was part of the "Strasser crew" until push came to shove and he chose to side with Hitler. Worst case scenario, we just have to pull out the Long Knives again.
Adam Evans
The third position is fascism, national socialism, etc... etc...
Connor Robinson
Meant for:
Sebastian Rodriguez
*Tips stahlhelm*
Camden Rivera
While Strasserists do indeed say that they are anti-Marxist, they still use many Marxist economic policies, such as a tighter grip on companies, even if unneeded.
>Manager, staff of workers, and State are the three
partners in any enterprise They constitute a factory
fellowship.
>The State, which in agriculture is the exclusive pro-
prietor of the land, is equally, in an industrial enterprise,
the exclusive proprietor of the concern. Through the
instrumentality of the appropriate vocational council it
assigns the work in fief to a manager who is competent
and willing to undertake it. In return there will be pay-
able to the State an impost (corresponding to the tithe
payable by an agricultural enterprise) 5 the amount of
which will be assessed at regular intervals (5 or 10 years,
let us say). These imposts, since, in conjunction with the
tithes from agricultural enterprises, they must provide
for State expenditure upon public affairs, will have
priority over net profits, allowances for wear and tear,
and reserves.
>Management, possession, and profits are thus assigned
in thirds to the manager, the staff of workers, and the
State. The management decides about the world policy
of the enterprise, settling the kind and quantity of goods
to be produced, fixing the respective amounts payable
for depreciation (wear and tear), reserve, and profit, and
prescribing the wages to be paid.
>Whilst the approved imposts from the works, in con-
junction with the tithes from agriculture, are the returns
payable to the State for safeguarding the public economy,
the share of the State in the profits represents a variable
Yes, the managers still do get a chunk of money, but they are taken from more than is needed tax wise and such.
It just seems unnecessary when vanilla NatSoc works perfectly fine in regards to this.
I think the government should take a neutral stance on companies, and only act against them when they are hurting the nation.
Julian Mitchell
Libertarians are kikes and tools of kikes.
Evan Garcia
Third Position is simply larping on a national scale
William Mitchell
get a trade job? stop being lazy, find a need and fill it while in the meantime doing low wage work that are made for unskilled workers. acquire any in demand skill and make more money or form your own business. it requires effort though, sorry to say.
Thomas Allen
Well said.
Connor Cox
I just want to be left alone. Doesn't really matter who's in charge because I ignore laws I don't agree with
Blake Brooks
I always try to keep civil, it's a shame the Libertarians respond with fallacies and calling us Communists.
I see it as a somewhat divisive issue. It's not a problem usually, and if need be we can always pull a Night of the Long Knives as you said, but that small issue is one that can be exploited by our enemies if used right. It's less that I think they'll actually gain power and more that I think that it's an unnecessary weakness.
You still make less than the few people who do get jobs with the over-saturated degrees. I'm a wage slave who's worked construction before, and is working night shift stuff now, and the whole reason I haven't got a degree so far is because of this very reason. It's a gamble whether or not you can get any jobs. It's not laziness, it's just that the system is retarded. I even took free college classes in high school, so it wasn't like I was really stupid either.
That's what I see a lot of Libertarians always say, but when the time comes to give up something to solve a problem, or to punish a company for evil, you always take the company's side or refuse to do your part.
Leo Myers
No
>this kills the libertarian
Dylan Cruz
>partners in any enterprise They constitute a factory fellowship.
I wouldn't say that's really Marxist as Marxists seek to eliminate the state entirely and would most likely kill management for being "bourgeoisie".
>The State, which in agriculture is the exclusive proprietor of the land, is equally, in an industrial enterprise, the exclusive proprietor of the concern.
>Through the instrumentality of the appropriate vocational council it assigns the work in fief to a manager who is competent and willing to undertake it.
>In return there will be payable to the State an impost (corresponding to the tithe payable by an agricultural enterprise) 5 the amount of which will be assessed at regular intervals (5 or 10 years, let us say).
>These imposts, since, in conjunction with the tithes from agricultural enterprises, they must provide for State expenditure upon public affairs, will have priority over net profits, allowances for wear and tear, and reserves.
>Whilst the approved imposts from the works, in conjunction with the tithes from agriculture, are the returns payable to the State for safeguarding the public economy, the share of the State in the profits represents a variable
Yeah, I remember reading that in Germany tomorrow. I don't see what's particularly wrong with that. The way I see it, it sounds like private management with a strong degree of state oversight and tariffs. If you ask me it sounds incredibly efficient and is in line with a corporatist way of thinking in which private industry (in this case agriculture) works to benefit the state as an organic entity while still allowing land holders to make plenty of money.
>Yes, the managers still do get a chunk of money, but they are taken from more than is needed tax wise and such.
I don't really see it as being too unreasonable so long as hard work is rewarded. You still would have plenty of room to make money but you'd be supporting your nation at the same time.
Benjamin Cook
Thanks. Same to you.
Zachary Young
why do librarians duty decimal system?
Jose Barnes
>I wouldn't say that's really Marxist as Marxists seek to eliminate the state entirely and would most likely kill management for being "bourgeoisie".
While this is what they say in theory, in practice they just increase governmental control of private enterprise. Obviously much more than what a Strasserist wants, but the parallel is there.
>I don't really see it as being too unreasonable so long as hard work is rewarded. You still would have plenty of room to make money but you'd be supporting your nation at the same time.
Unless the nation is really in need of money, I still see it as unnecessary. I mean, I could see it put into practice if there was a really large project about to happen, but other than that, the normal economic system provided a perfectly fine quality of life for everyone involved already, and the higher wages in the default NatSoc economy would provide a further incentive to start a business.
Strasserism doesn't strike me as a completely unworkable system, like Capitalism and Marxism, it just makes me think that a lot of the changes in economy aren't really necessary.
Chase Miller
I've enjoyed our conversation but unfortunately I have to go due to a family emergency. Cheers.
Elijah Gray
That was awesome
Luke Brooks
Liam Morales
HAIL VICTORY!
Levi Torres
Thanks for checking it out, Mosley is a vastly underrated gem.
Anthony Perez
>tfw I have to wage slave in an hour
Such is the life of a burger.
Tyler Campbell
i love dick Smith
Jose Jackson
Him, GLR, and Pierce aren't talked about nearly as much as they should be on here.
Asher Long
Also, fuck, when did this get blocked? Luckily I have a download. Watch out, burgers.
Angel Carter
>GLR and Pierce
I literally could not agree more. I always try to share some Dr.Pierce material here, he was the person most-responsible for redpilling me.
Any newfags (or confused/distraught oldfags) lurking here, please take 20 minutes and watch this video. In these shill-filled times, a knowledgeable voice of reason to explain things is almost impossible to come by, but I promise you that Dr. William Pierce & Commander Rockwell will NEVER let you down.
>"White Race Suicide" - Dr William Pierce
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Jose Jones
Libertarians have absolutely zero problem with pic related becoming wealthy for being loud-mouthed retards and contributing nothing but degeneracy to their country.
>muh free murketz
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Jayden Wilson
That's what removing the jews and expanding into space is for.
Chase Ross
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Dominic Howard
A reminder to libertarians that "non white libertarianism" is basically an oxymoron. Freedom and nonwhites simply do not mix, white nationalism is your only hope.
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