For you fascists who don't hate jews...

For you fascists who don't hate jews. Why do you hate "Communism" so much if it's literally the same exact thing as fascism. When you hate on "Communism" you are shooting yourself in the foot.

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>Literally the exact same thing
Except they're not. In almost any way except both being anti-capitalist

Communism is fascism without standards. Communism is blank slate. Fascism believes in human nature. All so the labor theory of value is fucking dumb and communism always fails even without an outside force acting on it. I'm a libertarian, so maybe I missed something.

"Communism" is authoritarian, nationalist, has state ownership. If there is any difference I'm not thinking of it's really minuscule and not enough to not count it as a strain of fascism.

>Communism is the same as fascism
Assuming this isn't bait and you're actually being sincere, what's it like being this soul-crushingly retarded?

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I agree with you when we are talking about what the normal person calls "Communism" but actual communism is anarchist. Don't forget socialists invented the word Libertarian and have been called Libertarians throughout history.

I'm not talking about what Marx wrote but what people think Communism is. (Stalinism)

What's the difference between Stalinism and Fascism and then what's the difference between Stalinism and some form of left wing fascist ideology?

Then maybe you should have started your thread using the word Stalinism, rather than Communism.

There is something of a valid topic here (why do people favour one brand of apparent authoritarianism over another) but the way you've phrased it in the OP is going to make people dismiss you as a know-nothing moron.

Sorry senpai, you've sabotaged your own thread. Let it die and try again tomorrow with revised wording, you might have better luck.

>Communism
>Nationalist
Most strains of gommunism are not nationalist they're internationalist.
Also the guild system within fascism is not the same as the state ownership in communism. Private enterprise is still per.itted within a fascist state, with the guilds acting as a sort of melding point of private and public. The goal of the state is to prevent supsr-capitalism from attempting to standardize everyone out of existence.

>"communism is nationalist"

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I hate Jews but let me just say, communism is egalitarian and places the economy at the center of civilization

fascism asserts natural caste hierarchy and not interested in economic reductionism

sage

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>The "real Communism hasn't been tried before" meme
fucking lol
And to keep it on topic for the thread, I think both systems are fucking retarded.

Communism will always be the attempted invention of a square wheel. You simply can not count on people to go against their nature for some idea of fairness for the lowest common denominator. If there's no personal incentive, people don't innovate. Everyone gets lazy and tries to do the least amount possible to get their state issued pay. I wish you faggots would get over this often tried, always failed idea.

>Most strains of gommunism are not nationalist they're internationalist.
Stalin was a nationalist. Most of the communist leaders were nationalist.

>Private enterprise is still per.itted within a fascist state, with the guilds acting as a sort of melding point of private and public.
This happened in the Soviet Union.

>"Communism" is authoritarian, nationalist, has state ownership. If there is any difference I'm not thinking of it's really minuscule and not enough to not count it as a strain of fascism.

Fascism isn't about state ownership of business. In Fascism the state, business and labour are supposed to have their interests represented within a organized, corporatist body. Businesses are still owned by citizens, though they can be directed by the state if it is deemed necessary. They are still motivated by the profit motive.

Communism is not nationalistic and it destroys the traditional foundations of a people. Family, religion, sex roles, national values. All things that are supposed to be sources of strength and unity for the state in a Fascist system.

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back from the place beyond the dawn

>Most communist leaders
And yet most communists will disavow those leaders for one reason or another

The problem with Communism is it's highest value is economic and materialist in nature. Capitalism and Communism are both materialistic ideologies where the emphasis is on material possesions. The goal of a fascist state is primarily to preserve the traditions, culture, and people of a state against materialistic influences of the markets. This is why the guilds are necessary for organization. Communism does not care what becomes of the people's traditions and often destroys them to achieve its goal of material equality.

>In Fascism the state, business and labour are supposed to have their interests represented within a organized, corporatist body. Businesses are still owned by citizens, though they can be directed by the state if it is deemed necessary. They are still motivated by the profit motive.

This is literally exactly how the Soviet Union ran.

These places didn't follow Marx's word but they followed what the average American thinks of as Communist which is why I said it. I probably should of used the term Stalinist instead of Communist in the OP.

The differences really aren't as large as Fascists would like you to believe, but Communism is still worse.

because communism is to seek the deconstruction
of the social class. Meanwhile fascism seeks to create harmony of the social classes

As a fascist, Stalin did a lot of positive thing late soviet Union
If you read some of the old translated newspapers, yes indeed Stalin did believe that the American government was subverted by the Jews. If you want proof , I can provide.

They are the exact opposite philosophies. Fascism accepts nature as law while communism seeks to will a utopia into being with no precedent or God-given ability

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>To us state and race are one
That's one thing I disagree on Hitler with. The state exists because the people will it to. Its main function is to guarantee the rights of citizens

>Guy makes statement on why people who think the Soviet Union is good are retarded
>I say it was bad and not communism
Yeah but the soviet union was bad.

Nope, fascism is a softer form of socialism, while communist socialism is a radical one.

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I'm a fascist and I like Stalin somewhat.
You're thinking of National Bolshevism which technically isn't the same thing as communism even if it is it's kissing cousin.

What is Anarchism? The original Anarchism? Not the meme flag your using. You know Proudhon, Bakunin?

Communism goes against human nature and is absolutely retarded. Every time someone tried to implement it, it failed. National Socialism was massively successful but then had to be ruined by Communists and Capitalists teaming up.

You know about the debts right? or is that just a jewish conspiracy.