No you don't. I was once a Priest I know not even the Vatican can produce any empirical evidence for the existence of the Jewish Messiah. All the known sources such as Josephus and Tacitus are known Christian interpolations and are considered academic embarrassments when used to prove any historicity for Jesus the "Christ". Grow up child.
lets see he was beaten, razor whipped, had to carry a massive heavy cross across the city of Jerusalem, then was nailed down to said cross, hung up there for hours suffocating from the torture device that was designed to do just that, then after he died they impaled him with a fucking spear through his heart and out his left collar. he looked like a fucking gorefest when they were done with him. trust me, he was without a doubt dead. they then put him in a tomb with a massive boulder to seal it. and you mean to tell me three days after he just got back up and pushed a two ton boulder out of the way due to something other that a miracle? you are the real child here youtube.com/watch?v=JmEFiXguwkg
>thousands of people see aliens, bigfoot, fairies, tulpas and demons they've summoned, etc. >still doesn't believe in it Why are you atheist about these things and not God? >prove to me jesus is not the son of god and that Christianity is false Burden of proof, and how would anyone prove that?
Jose Morgan
Daily reminder that catholic church has been hijacked by satanist illuminati when Freemason-Illuminati Cardinal Angello Roncalli (illuminati managed to finally gain full controll of freemasons hat the end of 18th century) became Pope John XXIII (first time illuminati, after hundereds of years overcome the ressistance and gained the papacy). His first act was to begin to remove the element of Divine Revelation from Catholic teaching, and to embrace naturalism, materialism and Communism. These steps were taken at the Ecumenical Council in 1962 and Vatican Two in 1965.
pic related:Scrozelli crucifixo that was embraced after Vatican II council and reintroduced by Pope Francis who is using it everyday. Statnism is all about symbols and he managed disfigure one of the most sacred and powerful symbols of western world to broke its influence. It is no coincidence... It is a fitting symbol for the sinister Vatican II Church, which has mocked Christ, humiliated Him, betrayed Him, has trampled Him under foot, loathes Him, teaches heresy, and presents to the world a distorted and twisted faith that is repulsive to true Catholics.
by the way Nazareth did in fact exist at the time of jesus, archeologist discovered a stone with greek on it, it was used at a directory of sorts, it was carbon dated to long before Christ was born and on top of that, the stone specified the small surrounding province as Nazareth
Connor Bell
did they meet up all at once with him while conversing with said alien too? wow, aliens and suuuure are friendly, beside you'e putting words in my mouth about what or what I don't believe, we're talking about Jesus and whether or not he is god
Ryder Reed
Many existed in the place of Nazareth. Nazareth came into being hundreds of years after the time of the fictitious Christ.
Eli Garcia
"Messiah of god" and "leader" of catholic church pope Francis (cabal satanist) is encourgaing people to mark themselves for satan.. Just like satan wants his slaves to be marked with his mark of the beast, corrupted chatholic church infested with pedophilia and satanism is first in line to do his bidding.. what a splended time to be alive!
>did they meet up all at once with him while conversing with said alien too? Of course, you silly goose. >beside you'e putting words in my mouth about what or what I don't believe So you don't believe in God? >we're talking about Jesus and whether or not he is god What is an analogy?
Isaiah Hill
>him being seen by over 500 witnesses including romans and Christ's enemies who didn't believe in him
None of this or your entire OP validate anything you have to say.
Nolan Wright
That is how the story goes written by several unknown authors many years after the time of the character named Jesus. That is the theme the Catholics created when they invented the Bible circa 325 A.D. Grow up child. Jesus is a myth. The Jews invented the myth of Yahweh. The Abrahamic Religions are shams and cancers to mankind.
>be god >creator of all >chose the jews as you ppl >have a human son >send him to jews in sandniggerland and not the center of civilization >make him a skinny bitch ass hippie who cant get laid nor lift >omnipotence and is on the level of david blaine >never show your wrath to the jews nor romans even after they have you dragging your cross (but you killed the sodomites for gay fucking) >make him die for the sins you decided are sins and of which you could forgive everyone without all this trouble this all seems pretty stupid also no historically contemporary record of jesus exist
Tyler Morgan
actually it was written by people who knew jesus personally and were more than willing to face persecution and death in the face of what they believed in: matthew, mark, luke, john ect ect...
>"actually it was written by people who knew jesus personally" [Citation needed]
Grayson Ortiz
Of course Jesus was real, he was a vedic shaman that mocked the Jew's openly, as punishment they hijacked his teachings and convinced the world he was a dead jew.
Jeremiah Garcia
HAH DESERTCUKS WHO FOLLOW JEWS LEASH
AHHHAA
OMEGA NORDICS WILL CRUSH YOU WEEK PUNY LITTLE KIKES BELOW OUR MIGHT AND STEEL
You will only be able to gaze at our golden hair and sky blue eyes as we lop your heads off.
FUR ODIN! FUR VOLK! FUR EUROPA!
Samuel Smith
cofcof from 50ad at the earliest cofcof
David Cook
I actually believe that most of the stories in the testaments actually happened
However they were disorted, whitewashed, exagerated and carefully arranged to push religious agendas
For example, in Exodus, YHWH decided that he wanted to kill Egypt's firstborns
As an omnipotent god, YHWH could not distinguish Jews and Egyptians so he needed Jews to mark their houses with sheep blood (?)
As an omnipotent god, YHWH could not do it during broad daylight and must wait until mid-night
I believe stories like this happened and were retold in a distorted manner
Nicholas Reed
There's no need to prove anything goy, you'll believe it either way. Jesus was totally an Aryan god who happened to be born in Israel and was effortlessly captured, tortured and slayed by ordinary bronze age Jews. Make sure to tell all of your white friends that we're literal god slayers.
ok then, prove to me the universe came about from nothing for no reason, then the nothing becomes everything for no reason, then tell me how through some convoluted series of events it eventually became dna then cells ect ect to this point. try proving that positive
technically it was the romans at the popular demand of the jews
Luis Cook
cofcof this is false there are only second hand retelings
Dominic Foster
>I was once a Priest Is this true? You were ordained a priest and officiated at Masses? What made you lose faith?
Leo Perry
>Jesus is a myth I mean, the vast majority of historical experts agree he was real. There is a very small minority who don't think so, sure. . . but there is a very small minority of experts who don't think humans are causing global warming, and from my experience those who say Jesus wasn't real usually say in the same breath that people are causing global warming.
Unless you are recognized by the scientific community as a brilliant mind(lol) you really can't have a say on the matter.
I'm not saying believe he committed mircales, I'm saying you're easily persuaded by others to believe what they want you to believe, like the majority of atheists who wear their ideology like a badge of honor.
It's sad how your kind have conventions dedicated to skepticism, but refuse to hail your opinion as anything more than fact.
Also if someone takes comfort in thinking their grandmother is in a good place then it's a dick move to try to convince them otherwise.
>Replies to a post he doesn't get >weird awkward role playing You're trying too hard to be right, your inability to be unbiased even after starting this thread is laughably retarded.
Brayden Butler
go back to r/atheism, you clealy dont have the capacity to even begin to debate with us
Is there evidence of this? It really seems to be closer to Zoroastrianism
Hunter Rogers
God's got a cock!
Angel Perez
>us >thinking Sup Forums is one person Newfags don't make threads, you lurk like a good boy and stay out of discussion.
Brandon Campbell
at least learn some proper german you inbred nazi LARPer
James Rogers
you're right, i'll just go back to lurking while you do your big boy debate with all of your evidence. you missed this one btw champ.
Ayden Thomas
humans like to affirm what they believe in, you've probably done the same damn thing numerous time on multiple occasions, get off your high horse
Brody Robinson
How many little altar boys did you touch?
Jordan Martin
Jesus is a constructed hebrew fable/myth, unlike Muhammad, who was actual, historical person and a warlord.
Adam Edwards
Seriously, I think everyone should at least learn how to say hello in german: مرحبا
Jacob Young
probably would be able to get to that if you didn't take me on a tangent
Landon Baker
if you'd excuse me
Elijah Hernandez
or in american shalom
Ian Barnes
I agree, unfortunately you've missed the point where you made this thread pretending to want evidence for claims, but when your assertions are being refuted you're getting upset. >*cough cough* So why ask a question if you don't want the answer? Also, is right, you're conveniently "missing" replies.
Nathaniel Bailey
you're fine, i'll wait. lurking, remember.
Lucas Mitchell
Nothing that can't be challenged. Matter of faith i supoose. Mocking the Jew's is throughout the bible however.
Hudson Perry
>your book affirms ours Protip: what you call “Bible” isn’t “the Book” as in “people of the Book”
>calls god stupid >thinks there is a language called "American" A religion for the intellectuals if there ever was one!
Jason Baker
Whoever believes this dogshit in 2018 in the younger generation need to kill themselves immediately.
John Bell
Christianity post catholicism is false. True christianity/the bible resembles lovecraft, not models with wings
Chase Cook
not even bait
Jayden Clark
Bongs speak English, we speak American. It's very different by any honest metric
Josiah Stewart
The messiah talked about in the Old Testament was never meant to be god-man as Jesus is sold to us in the New Testament, but a regular human who would fulfill God's plan as the "anointed one", infact not even "the" but "an" anointed one. Also the "anointed one" is supposed to fill all the prophecies in one human lifetime, not in a "second coming."
Matthew Taylor
Jesus has many names. We are all children of god, he was just god's favourite. Jesus is a copy of many dying and rising gods that I have a sexual fetish for. His mother also had lots of variants from other mythos that are older than Christianity.
>links a 16 minute video >thinks this is evidence Flat earthers also think youtube videos are solid proof of their claims, too. Did you actually have a point to my post, or are you just going to refer me to youtube videos?
Juan Powell
biblical quote to prove a lack of divinity for the messiah? Well, they never talk about his being divine. They just talk about him as an anointed person as was King David and a slew of other messiahs or anointed ones.
Angel Young
"all that the father has, Is mine" "none shall get to the father but through me"
Ryan Baker
tons of people in the bible are called "son of god" when the jews surround him with stones, he quotes psalm 82 "all are sons of the Most High" the idea of someone being the son of god is popular in lots of cultures it caught on, and proved to be most powerful with the idiotic masses jesus is THE true embodiment of pslam 82 that is where it all began, when jesus took these ancient words to heart i suggest you to read: A psalm of Asaph. 1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”:
2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?[b] 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.
Lincoln James
That's New Testament.
Landon Garcia
the difference between a flat earther and me is that they don't even bother to analyze information, and they cant do simple algebra. and have no sense of multiple physical properties being enacted at once. furthermore they actively deny observable realitthat you can see in front of you, much like the jews not believing in the messiah
Ryan Richardson
>the difference between a flat earther and me is that they don't even bother to analyze information You're spiraling, and not discussing the point. Did you want to discuss the point, or did you want to explain your argument for the authors knowing jesus personally, and then provide evidence for your claim.
Lincoln Turner
christology is the result of selling christ out to the masses at the expense of theology your rites would be foreign to him why dont you keep Sabbath? you refuse to mark yourself in submission to the Lord? you tell yourself over and over that the old Covenant has been superceded ask yourself this: do you worship a God that breaks promises? Is that something you think an allpowerful omnicient creator is capable of?
Benjamin Kelly
you know what you're right, I'm gonna focus, thank you for getting me back on track
Levi Martinez
Jesus said he would be back with the final judgement before all his apostles died
Jeremiah Robinson
>says they're going to do something >end of reply You are just something special.
Matthew Collins
to be completely honest, I do keep the Sabbath, I keep the both covenants, old and new as best I can
Grayson Ross
I'm typing, take it easy
Austin Scott
>"i'm typing" >typing a new reply You're a goddamn psychopath
Ryan Mitchell
also source proofing
Ian Anderson
do you have any evidence to back that claim up?
Adam Jackson
reply to
Camden Jones
i'm excited desu
Parker Lopez
Yes, see the post you just replied to. Are you typing in notepad or some shit? What are you doing with your life where you have to type out a response elsewhere? Fuck
Lucas Thomas
You are Jewish, right?
Kevin Scott
but the thing is most pegan myths dont really attest to the whole ressurection of the Christ figure, no religeon could quite explain how jesus pulled it off, with a bunch of people see it fist hand and spreading the word like wildfire
Joshua Cox
>prove to me that fiction is not true
Connor Young
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Justin Anderson
I can do to the people who wrote it and ask them myself or read a biography about them saying their work is fiction, in contrast to me going to the authors of the bible and hiving them tell me in their biography or other source that isn't the scripture and see that they truly believed what they wrote happened
>but the thing is most pegan myths dont really attest to the whole ressurection of the Christ figure What does this have to do with the authors knowing jesus personally? >no religeon could quite explain how jesus pulled it off So this makes it true? Because it's written in a book means it's true? >with a bunch of people see it fist hand and spreading the word like wildfire See we've been through this.
Brody Jackson
perhaps, but whatevs
Josiah Thompson
fucking hell, get on with it, what about the authors
Austin Hernandez
Holy. Fucking. Shit. You must have an IQ of 70. You can't be helped. You're too fucking stupid. Enjoy your baseless delusional stories. We'll be over here continuing with our verifiable scientific progress. You know, like, the thing that has given you literally everything you have to be thankful for including how you're even posting this. But yeah, I'm sure we're the wrong ones here. It's not like we've been flying to other planets and constantly proving our refining our theories.
I'm sure your baseless story book is true. Sure thing bro. Despite that all the praying ever done from it has yielded literally zero in the history of all time.
