Was the French Revolution where everything went wrong? Or did it happen earlier?

Was the French Revolution where everything went wrong? Or did it happen earlier?

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>Tolerating despots.

All those guns but no bravery.

Well, you'se guyses revolution ignited the french revolution.

It was happening behind the scenes for longer, but the French Revolution was (((their))) first major victory in their planned cultural shift.

Pretty much
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thats what traditional Catholics believe and teach, i believe it started in the 1200's with the neglect of the holy rosary like saint john louis de Montfort

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You mean the "Enlightenment"? Yes

Inquisition.

No. Revolutionary France ideals are GOAT.
WW1 was the beginning of the end and ww2 is where it all went down hill for good.

It was when the prince of Hesse Kassel appointed Mayer amschel Rothschild as his banker, who then profitted immensely off of the subsequent revolutions. This was the start of the modern day Jewish Usury hegemony

>i believe it started in the 1200's with the neglect of the holy rosary like saint john louis de Montfort said

this

The (((French))) revolution was their first public victory toward throwing off monarchy and brining in "democracy"

Subverting the British monarchy and eventually killing the Russian monarchy in the (((Russian))) revolution was next.

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From an American perspective, not sending every negro back to Africa following the Civil War was our first big mistake. Allowing women to vote was the second. Fighting for the wrong side in WWII was the third and final mistake that guaranteed this country would be controlled by the kikes.

Mob rule doesn't work anywhere because the mob is retarded. "They" decide what the mob wants, only in "democracy" they use underhanded brainwashing and mass-manipulation to achieve means rather than being honest and telling everyone that powerful people are making all the decisions. Aristocracy is ideal

Maybe that. Or the reformation. Or the renaissance. But really, Socrates is the true answer.

Dreyfus affair

No, and it happened later. It happened when we decided niggers weren’t property

It was one of the first attempts to teach the world the lesson that when the Left comes into power, only blood follows in its wake.

Nah we we're getting bent before WW 1

Socrates is where everything went right you dumbass

>Or did it happen earlier?
When Constantine changed the official religion of the Roman Empire to Christianity it all began to fall apart, we are seeing that now.

The French Revolution was the beginning. Kings are harder to control than peasants, so (((they))) had to bring down the monarchy. WWI was the next major step.

To add onto this, a lot of people (especially Europeans) want to tack the American revolution as part of the same movement but it really wasn't.
If you read what the founding fathers actually wrote you'll realize they fully understood that democracy was a self defeating system that always "exhausts and eats itself" but as a new country in the current times they had no real alternative.
This is why they focused so much on the constitution to restrain and guide the democratic channels that they had to put in place.

They also made it quite clear that the reason for the 2nd amendment was to have civil war whenever necessary. It clearly WAS NOT for hunting.
The real crime of Americans is not shooting all of the commies already, like we were supposed to.

Though lets be honest, America is already dead. Trump is a band aid on a severed artery.

Look stuff you won't read or understand.

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In France, the culprit is Louis XIV.
Why ?
Simple facts: he was traumatized by "la fronde", a rebellion of nobles during Anne d'Autriche regency, refusing to bend the knee before her and her supposed lover, the cardinal of Mazarin, an italian cleric who was first minister. One Louis took power, he built Versailles, a golden cage for nobles, where he could keep them dancing, drinking and fucking, while he took full control. The nobility, that already lost its role of warriors due to firearms and professionnal soldiers, became degenerate NEETs, abandonning their domains, and leaving their management to servants and rich merchants. A whole generation was corrupted this way, and went deeply in debt to finance their lifestyles. The merchants, public servants and bankers started then to hold the real power and wealth, while the nobility lost its raison d'etre.
Followed 2 weak kings. Louis XV was not only weak, but dispised because his old lover, the marquise of pompadour, once her beauty faded, acted as a pimp and provided him girls always younger, until he was, in effect, a pedophile. He is strongly suspected of having muredered many children. In old times, such a king would have been deposed and excommunicated. But nothing was done since such a weak and corrupted puppet was useful to many. Then, the people started to hate the throne. He had betrayed the sacred duty of the kings of France. Then came Louis XVI. Weak and kind, doing charities but very naive. He let merchants implement proto capitalist policies, such as speculation on grains, which was forbidden. The role of gendarmes, among other, was until then to ensure the people could have bread. He have up on another sacred duty. Famine ensues, and the very people who suggested these destructive reforms, fomented and led the revolution from Paris. Then it was over. The king was beheaded after fleeing like a coward, and the paris mob was baptised with his blood in a masonic ritual.
And the kingdom fell.

Interesting

>let there be light.

You watch your fucking mouth, pleb.

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American revolution and the Civil war were both conservative revolutions. They were meant to preserve something. The first was to protect the rights they considered themselves to have through natural law and centuries of british law. The second to preserve the southern way of life.

That's oversimplifying but that's the gist of it. Most revolutions tend to focus upon removing the old. You really can't compare the american revolution to the french.

>You really can't compare the american revolution to the french
You're wrong, the same power-mad kikes manipulated both revolutions into existence

also there is no such thing as a conservative revolution, especially not in reference to a popular uprising to instill mob rule democracy in place of meritocratic aristocracy

History is very important to understand present times. Oc, real history, not the watered down thing taught in schools.

After the kingdom fell, chaos started. The revolution leaders were power hungry businessmen, or political zealots full of innovative ideas. The first mass killings by throwing whole live families in ovens were done in Vendée, a royalist stronghold. The leaders kept killing each other, and declared war to all of Europe. And, amazingly, held. But it was not something that could last. People longed for their lost monarchs, and the civil war plus wars on every front was unsustainable. Obviously, bankers and merchants became even richer. Paris was close to being taken by royalists, then came a man. One of these rare leaders who make history. A insignificant officer of the republican army, stopped and slaughtered the royalists. Napoleon. A master politician, he climbed the political ladder until a new kingdom was born. The 1st Empire. With a real nobility, forged in the furnaces of war. In the end, even him couldnt win the wars the revolution started. After the defeat of Waterloo, a Rothschild servant rushed and arrived first in london. His master then bought england in one swift bluff. Acting as if Wellington was defeated ( it was a decisive battle for both sides) he sold his stocks. Panic ensues, and everyone follows. Then he bought everything. UK and its colonies had became his property. He finalized the act by marrying his children with nobility. Since then, UK is a private property of the Rothschilds.

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You all are plebs.
It began with the Civil War, even if the Royalist won at the end, it was a temporal victory that delayed the forces of republicanism, on 1688, not even 50 years after the restoration the Stuarts where deposed with the backing of the Protestant fucks, the kikes and dutch.
They literally suported a foreign invasion to oust a born and bred British King in favour of a dutch and James's whore-daughter.
The last chance to repair the UK died at Culloden, after that the poison expanded to America, France, all of Europe during the 1800's and ending with the Russian of 1917.
The poison of Republicanism led to this shitshow we got today.

seconded.

also book-recommendations regarding these subjects would be very appreciated.

American schools are less watered down and more just water. The only thing I learned on repeat in school was holocaust, a bit about the industrial revolution and cuba missile crisis.

yep my public school edumacation was We Wuz Kangs worldwide in history class, Hemmingway, Edith Wharton, Elie Wiesel and The Crucible in English literature, McCarthyism and Civil Rights movement in US history, and Cezanne, Van Gogh and Picasso in painting class. Literally the most kiked, scrubbed version of history and culture you can possibly imagine

The American revolution was the beginning of the end for the West.

It was the precursor of the French Revolution, the Haitian Revolution and the Bolshevik Revolution.

It made Europeans who were once at the top of the world into the laughingstock of mankind and abused by literally every other race on earth.

God damn the bastard sons of whores who fomented those revolutions, they are the scum of the earth and are responsible all the evil that has befallen the world to this day.

I am feeling compelled to deliver then.

UK was litterally owned, but the situation was even worse, for everyone.
The wars were incredibly costly, every countries with abyssal debts. Oc, the bankers and merchants were quite empowered again. The damages of the wars were overwhelmingly in human lives. 2 generations of the bravest men the old world had ever knowed were now lying in the ground. The demoralisation was immense. Purges were done in France to get rid of the last imperial leaders. They died with honor, but died nonetheless. A gloomy age. Ironiccally, ome conquered lands however took imperial leaders as monarchs. It got worse when the merchants finally got the tech they craved for. The industrial revolution had begun and would give them the world. The new tools and weapons allowed the western nations, now privatized, to complete the colonial process. No other civilisation could resist the mighty ironclad battleship and the loads of soldiers with rifles and cannons.
At that point, almost all countries were all ruled by their parliaments, and these followed the "national economic interest". AKA the companies and banks interests. Farmers and poor people were exploited in the most vile manner in factories and mines, for both good and bad results.
It created modern infrastructures, but also achieved the grab of power.
France saw timid attempts of restauration, but a king or an emperor can only rule with a real nobility. In effect, europe turned into parliamentary republic. Owned by the invisible hand of the market. It was also the rise of masons. The church was tied to the kings, God right hands. The bourgeoisie had to reason to bow to a defender of the poors. They massively turn with the mysterious and efficient hidden webs of these sects. Both for the thrill, but also for the power. Most of the wars until 1914 would be rather insignicant, without real consequences but loss of gain of prestige or few lands. The ww1 would change this.

not to mention multiple vulgar, brutal reading assignments on muh 6 gorrillion and the Vietnam war

Oui.
Democracy was a mistake.
>The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. - Tocqueville

>blaming the peasants instead of the nobles
The nobles let the situation get to the point that the peasant felt only violence could give them any rights.

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And the peasants just got themselves a new Jewish oligarchy to drive them to extinction.

Democracy and the Republics have been absolute failures and many races and nations are simply going to cease to exist because of that God damned form of government.

This. Fuck democratic "leaders"

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