Simple facts

The annexation of Crimea was righteous and clearly desired by its inhabitants.

The threat to and wishes of Abkhazia and Ossetia were genuine and Russia capitalized on it.

Russia is and should be concerned about NATO expansion and missiles stationed along its borders. This type of hegemonic pressure is unprecedented in world history.

The Assad government was the sovereign government of Syria, accusations against it were exaggerated and vindictive, the alternative governments are not only unfit for rule but almost exclusively supported by malicious powers.

Putin is the most capable and popular politician in Russia.

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>Simple facts
ORIGINAL DOCUMENT OF GIFTING CRIMEA TO the UKRAINE in 1954

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Righteous yes, but illegal.
Russia guaranteed Ukranian borders as they were in 1991.
Of course, it's not like USA and others give a fuck about international law either (Kosovo, Iraq).

>The annexation of Crimea was righteous and clearly desired by its inhabitants.
>The threat to and wishes of Abkhazia and Ossetia were genuine and Russia capitalized on it.
For those of you who are sincerely interested learning both sides of the story about CRIMEA and RUSSIA and PUTIN
here is very interesting interview with PUTIN.
(click on CC in Youtube to turn On English subtitles)
Yes this is long interview so only serious 'students of political science will watch thIs.
ENJOY...
VERY WELL PRODUCED DOCUMENTARY

Crimea. The Way Home. Documentary by Andrey Kondrashev.
The Film was made to keep in history every significant episode that happened in Crimea in Spring 2014.
It took 8 months to finish the film and enveloped Simferopol and Kerch, Yalta and Bakhchisaray; Feodosia, Djankov, Alushta and a dozen settlements of Crimea.
youtube.com/watch?v=c8nMhCMphYU

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Nobody questioned the fact that Soviet leadership "gifted" Crimea to the Ukraine.

The only claim Ukraine has is this and pretending to operate under international law.

If you have an ounce of justice and morality in your body you realize those are pitiful arguments.

On top of that, Russia feels the agreement they had with the West was violated when Ukraine was about to be absorbed into the Western security structures, to Russian dismay, and the Russian naval base was threatened. Crimea was never an issue because Ukraine had remained complicit until now - and now they're not.

Some who takes an objective look at the peninsula and its history would choose Ukraine last for ownership of it.

This is not something exclusive to Ukraine or Russia. There are plenty of anomalies in the world like Åland, Cyprus, Karabakh, Bosnia, etc., that politics and international law has been unable to solve for various reasons.

>Righteous yes, but illegal.
Yes, exactly. Is the point of law to be a thing in itself, serving global powers, or to exercise justice?

user, watch this video,educate yourself and have better understanding of what you are talking about

The Russian Federation needs to be dissolved and all republics need to gain independence. Russia should be a small country bounded by the Urals

I'm merely pointing out Russia went against the law they are obliged to respect.
Legality is legality. Righteousness depends on perspective.
Of course you might make an argument Russia respected borders of Ukraine in 90's due to pressure.

Don't forget that technically, technically, Russia didn't invade and annex Crimea on its own.

I don't know if you have enough intelligence to know how dumb your post is.
You have no clue.None

picture is you

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This swede knows whats up.
Bump.

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Technically yes, but in practice Russian troops were there and it was obvious.

Congrats, you won the "stupidest reply" award,how does it feel ?

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>Righteousness depends on perspective
user, if you sincerely like to gain full perspective on topic of taking CRIMEA back to RUSSIA this video is your source.
Watch it so you have the other side of the story, because right now you are blinded by false understanding of events and reasons.
Up to you...

LOL...

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I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of having a too legalistic perspective

Russia abuses this themselves, doing all kinds of shady stuff and then claiming there's no evidence

We are not lawyers and diplomats here. We can tell the truth.

>I'm merely pointing out Russia went against the law they are obliged to respect.
>Legality is legality. Righteousness depends on perspective.
>Of course you might make an argument Russia respected borders of Ukraine in 90's due to pressure.
ummit's not a law.
It was \ memorandum- which is an advisory thing as best- it doesn't actually have any legal; value.
Russia acted more legal towards Crimea than teh US acted towards ex Yugoslavia

>Nobody questioned the fact that Soviet leadership "gifted" Crimea to the Ukraine.
No honey, Crimea and Novorossya were not gifted to Ukraine because Ukraine was just a territorial administrative usint at the time. They were literally put under Kiev's admin because it was handier with supplies etc.
>The only claim Ukraine has is this and pretending to operate under international law.

But it isn't. Crimea has been trying to get a referendum and leave Ukraine since 1992. Ukraine interfered with their Constitution and unilaterally changed it, arrested their president and that is against the UN principle of the people's right to self determination.
>If you have an ounce of justice and morality in your body you realize those are pitiful arguments.
Russia is correct, if Kosovo is independent so is crimea. Crimea actually has a stronger claim
>On top of that, Russia feels the agreement they had with the West was violated when Ukraine was about to be absorbed into the Western security structures, to Russian dismay, and the Russian naval base was threatened. Crimea was never an issue because Ukraine had remained complicit until now - and now they're not.
this
>Some who takes an objective look at the peninsula and its history would choose Ukraine last for ownership of it.
The people of Crimea chose and they're the only ones that matter.
>This is not something exclusive to Ukraine or Russia. There are plenty of anomalies in the world like Åland, Cyprus, Karabakh, Bosnia, etc., that politics and international law has been unable to solve for various reasons.
Unwilling to.

To make it properly kosher, Russia should've treated Ukraine the same way as the US treated Yugoslavia. I.e. Bombed them to shit killing thousands of civilians before taking Crimea. Remove cockhole.

Separation of Kosovo was the most illegal separation in modern history.
And USA bombing of Yugoslavia/SERBIA was one of the most disgusting war crimes committed by the so called democracy.
But why to be surprised, US had no moral compass to drop two atomic bombs on innocent civilians including children.
You can't get any lower as a nation then that. BRAVO USA

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Why do you support mongrelization that comes with having multiple ethnicities reside inside the same borders? Russia is totally like that. Maybe you're a mixed race mutt, half mongol half slav? There's no other explanation for your support of this aspect of their state.

>To make it properly kosher, Russia should've treated Ukraine the same way as the US treated Yugoslavia. I.e. Bombed them to shit killing thousands of civilians before taking Crimea. Remove cockhole.
Ukraine had nukes at the time

+15

>Ukraine
>nukes
>2014
I don't understand. A cockhole can't possibly operate nukes

who cares?
i am happy as long we killing some ukranians.

since you are a mental invalid this will be my last post to you:
get medical help please

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So, if Russia is so good and stronk, why you leave it, Vanya?

why should russia bomb literally 40 millions of russians in the so called "ukraine"? just annex it and be done

Mongol mutts like yourself will never be white lol

Because a lot of them are turk mutts or LARPing Psheks and should be removed for the good of the Russian state.

>literally 40 millions
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The annexation of Stockholm by Iraq is righteous and clearly desired by its inhabitants.

First: Roomenijans are the last nation to talk about being white race.Stop fantasizing about it.
Second: if you really knew who I'M you would agree that my DNA should be used to crate white race of the purest quality.

Third: please don't bother answering, I'M not going to waste any more of my time on you.

Population
• 2017 estimate
42,418,235

god, you really believe there are some mythical proto-ukras? all 40m are just fooled russians

I think he means that Ukraine has lost much of its population and this isn't accounted for because the last census of the area was in the USSR.
Think about it, how does urine still have the same population as in 2014 when Poland and Russia each took over 2 million cockhole refugees?

I'm no fan of Russia. I hate socialism. I think Putin is a modern day Tsar who rules by killing people.

That being said. Taking Crimea was like America taking Texas. we have no room to criticize. Furthermore, from a strategic standpoint it was a significant improvement to the overall security of the Russian state. Well played Ivan.

totally agree, but since there isn't any up-to-date census I just go with the last official estimate. It's actually such a shame to see the greatest white nation being divided between non-countries like ukraine and belorussia

Taking Crimea wasn't at all like America taking Texas, as America did not invade Texas. Texas had a revolution, seceded from Mexico and subsequently joined the USA.

Taking Crimea was more like America taking New Mexico.

None of it matters. The bottom line here is that when the banking cartel started and funded the uprising, I immediately knew, and told everyone I could, that this would end up with Russia intervening with their military. The move could never have ended in any other result, as history has REPEATEDLY shown us.
Russia will not EVER give up access to the Crimea.
And the Crimea is filled to the brink with Russians, in the first place.
Nobody is "right" here, EVERYBODY is wrong, and this has torn up families and murdered the innocent.

A little goddam statement to the Rothschilds and their filthy agents: This is more blood on YOUR hands, and you already have centuries of blood staining them.
If hate could kill, none of you would be alive today. We know you for what you are, and many others are learning, as well.
I pray for the day I can see you pay for your generations of sin.

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Strelkov or whatever his name is said the vote was at gunpoint, though

He oversaw it