Those runes aint gonna read themselves, you know

those runes aint gonna read themselves, you know.

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The good thing is you don't need to know Japanese anymore. I've been to Tokyo and you don't even need to know how to read or speak anything.

You can't communicate with your waifu properly if you don't know any japanese though

Next year for sure.

Maybe not to use transport and do the tourist shit, but if you try and actually speak to people in Tokyo you'll find 95%+ of them don't know anything past high-school level English, much of which they would've forgotten anyway. Also venture anywhere outside of the tourist traps (Tokyo, Kyoto, Hiroshima etc) and virtually nobody will speak English at all.

Even with my limited Japanese I managed to have basic conversations with some of the people I met there, which I think improved my experience greatly.

As if High school level English isn't good enough.

>much of which they would've forgotten anyway.

Japanese high school level, which is to say vaguely able to read and write but completely unable to speak

I don't know how to break the kanji barrier. My spoken moon is pretty good, and I can watch most anime without subs, but I can't read for shit and it drives me insane. I keep trying flash cards, but it just doesn't seem to stick.

>Genki one
Not that hard, the real problem is when you get to the level where you can't progress unless you talk to real Japanese people
They're more and more insufferable as time goes on

I already reached a level where I can comfortably read most doujins and light novels. I'm content with this, I don't need Muramasa to be happy.

I miss DJT

Why are the mods such faggots

>elementary Japanese
>genki
best girl

The best is Minna no Nihongo

Just read and add vocab you don't know to a mining deck

Radicals and mnemonics.

Mary is prime waifu material.

Takeshi pls go.

Erin-chan is my Japanese-fu

It's the opposite for me, I'm such a disaster when I have to do basic conversations. I'm not used to communicate in nip and I panic when I have to.
I love studying kanji, maybe it helps if the person have a good memory, I don't know. Try studying more in the evening, before you go to bed.

You really need to spend time surrounded to get good at speaking. I've spent some real time in Japan at this point, more than a bit of it hitchhiking and couchsurfing, and you just pick it up a lot faster that way. Kanji's so much harder since it requires real study.

That's some excellent taste you got there user.

Most of them don't even know high school level English. Or their high school level English is like American high school level Spanish. Either way, not really much of a reason to talk to anyone.

Guess what, DJT isn't gone and it sucks just as much as it used to.

>genki
youtu.be/F7SjHezujA0

Anyone else taking the JLPT this weekend? I'm signed up for N2 and feeling pretty confident.

I missed the sign-up deadline by one day, so I guess I'll be taking the N3 next July.

合格しますように！

Why not aiming for N2 then?

I'll do N4

Literally no point

It was better when it was just 1 thread every day. 24/7 generals always turn to garbage.

Why? I started studying nip from zero one year ago. Still better than nothing.

poor guy

You're paying for a certification that doesn't get you anything. N4 and N5 are so low as to be useless for any practical application.

Anything below business level is worthless unless your goal in life is reading the newspaper.

N3 can get you in some doors, but for the most part, you're right. N2 is the minimum you should really be considering, since you have to pay to take the test.

Expanding. I can't remember the exact deck I used, but I think kanjidamage is pretty good. kanjidamage.com/
I have a terrible time telling shit apart. Kanji just looked all the same, like a bunch of lines.
Basic radicals, moved onto to basic kanji with mnemonics. Some people learn the readings along with the kanji, but that was just too much for me, so I just did the kanji and meaning. Learning the reading alongside with the kanji and probably helps you learn so much faster, but it was just too much.
Oh, and actually writing them. There's a phone app call 'Obenkyo' that has a writing option that's helpful. And after having a decent base of kanji and meanings to stop everything looking like just a mess of lines, I switched over to Core vocab.

I could ace N4 right now, is it realistic to aim for N2 by next year's test? I'll be in Japan for 3 months right before it

>entire book is wall of runes
>Not a single draw to make it more fun

This is the best book, prove me wrong

Mary is 2 cool 4 this world

I'm not planning to stop at this level. I did several mock exams with my teacher and passed them last spring, now I'm currently studying for N3 and will hopefully take it next year.
I wouldn't say it's worthless. You get to know how the exam works and it's still a certificate. Don't be so dramatic.

If you're dedicated, yeah, especially if that time in Japan is study time. I've got a friend who passed the N2 after working as an ELT for two years.

It's motivating, though. Since I've paid for it, I want to pass, and as a result I've been studying more.

I guess if you like paying for tests for their own sake.

The DJT is essentially dead. The discord sucks, the thread on Sup Forums is unbearable, and the thread on /jp/ is nothing like the one on Sup Forums used to be

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>tfw you'll never get to meet メアリーさん
Fuck Takeshi, the chapter where he stands her up pissed me off.

not so genki anymore, huh?

I can't remember what the other guy was called. There was Takeshi and some other dude.

I just finished Genki I. It's the end of an era.

Any advice moving forward anons? I have Japanese as a second major.

Passed N2 last year, shooting for N1 this week. In my third year of study. Wish me luck.

That's fucking sick, N1 is for crazies

Do Genki II.

Genki II motherfucker!

There's Mary, Robert, Takeshi, Ken, Michiko, and some other randos that pop up along the way, like Tom and Jon.

When will they do N0?

NS+

Of course I'm doing Genki II. I'm trying to cram some kanji on the side though. Genki is pretty ass for kanji learning.

handwriting test when

N1 in three years? What's your secret?

Never. Please, never.

>onyomi and kunyomi

If you post a sample I'll post one.

Get the ball rolling.

So JLPT is vocabulary, grammar and listening right? What's the passing mark?

How japanese children do it? Writing kanji is ass.

50%

You have to learn combinations. It's the safest way.

中出し

If you want to keep using a textbook use Tobira after genki II

Native Japanese can usually recognize kanji that are written like shit due to speed, like how most English speakers can read cursive scrawl. It's the foreign Japanese students that will give you blank stares while reading your shit.

NO, NO SHIT. I surpassed JLPT N3 thanks to multiple choice questions and no writing test.

How important is learning how to write kanji instead of just learning how to read them? It takes about four times as long to memorize how to write them, and I can't see myself writing many letters outside of the classroom with typing being so easy.

baka gaijin learn kanji like true samurai

And a ching chong nip nong to you, young lady.

>NO, NO SHIT.
>I surpassed

now pass the english N3

Writing Kanji is a novelty for a Gaijin these days. Just learn to read them, and worry about writing later.

> It takes about four times as long to memorize how to write them
You'll get better
also try heisig

Is there even a point in learning Jap? Every show gets subs eventually, you can google translate anything and get a general idea of what's going on, and like 95% of people in Tokyo (ie, where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan) speak english.

So what's the point? It's just a waste of time. You won't find anyone to talk to in Japanese outside of Japan since Asian immigrants actually try to integrate and don't want to hold onto their old language. In fact you'll probably just irritate them by speaking to them in Japanese. And if anyone else asks you why you're learning Japanese what are you going to say? "I like cartoons with naked little girls so I want to speak their language!" or something? Yeah right...

>95% of people in Tokyo (ie, where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan) speak english.

>ie, where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan
I hope you guys don't do this.

I can't speak for other anons, but it helped me stop mixing up similar-looking kanji.

learning how to write kanji is piss easy, it might seem difficult at the start but it really becomes very easy just after you learn how to write a few.
Of all the new kanji I see I already know how to write about 95% of them, and when I don't it's because they have parts I've never seen before, and have complex shapes since you can guess simple ones.

>where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan
Christ, what a pleb.

>95% of people in Tokyo speak english
This meme again.

>95% of people in Tokyo (ie, where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan) speak english
lolno

>and like 95% of people in Tokyo (ie, where you'll spend all of you time if you ever do visit japan) speak english.

hehe

Anime is a tertiary interest of mine in the realm of japanese culture

Untranslated porn.
Untranslated visual novels.
Untranslated light novels.
Untranslated manga.
Untranslated shows.
You miss on a lot of stuff by not knowing the language.

What, you don't consider only being able to say "herro izu naisu tu meet chu!" English fluency?

I want to understand my idolshit songs with looking up the lyrics.
Don’t judge me.

>98% of NTR VNs are untranslated

you tell me

I'm in manufacturing and we do a lot of business with Japanese suppliers. It'd be nice to actually talk to the technicians and read their rune notes while they're installing equipment and we can eliminate bugs immediately.

Can I find arubaito in 1 or 2 months with N4 or N3? I'd like to study in a school there with go go nihon and work in the meantime.

Why do I feel high after reading this book? It doesn't help that it's necessary for my course

>untranslated porn
Just jerk off dude, who cares what they're saying?

How much is having an additional Japanese degree going to help me find a job in Computer Science? You'd think that knowing an Asian language would be a great asset, but Chinese would have probably been more lucrative.

If you're a cute blonde grill you could make the big bucks in a maid cafe.

Does that help?

I'm leaving too in a few months except that I don't know shit about Japanese besides the kana