Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Communists are for free speech and gun rights as long as they are not in power. Afterwards they are the most oppressive pieces of shit in history. You are not fooling anyone, commie.
Jackson Jenkins
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Luis Diaz
Do you recognise that productivity drastically goes down in a socialist democracy?
Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top.
The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures.
The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).
How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.
Jaxon Nelson
How can you consider a hammer or a toothbrush a personal property, when in cummunism there's no property? What is difference between personal property and private property? If private property covers means of production, what stops me from disassembling a mean of production and claim the parts to be my personal property? Why would you waste resource producing more than say (hypothetically) 1 hammer/toothbrush per 7 persons?
How can one cultivate and harvest crops to personal use, when there's no personal property to be used for farming in cummunism? How do you allocate public land for this personal farming? Who allocates the public land used by the collective?
The ten Planks of Communist manifesto: #8 "Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture." > Equal obligation How can a stateless and non-hierarchical society enforce this? > Your work-time is equivalent to everybody else's work-time Am I forced to sit and drawn hentai for as long as others work in factory, if I don't want to do manual labour as an artist? If "... each according to his needs", what stops me claiming to acquire 70% of goods to suffice my needs? How can anyone else define how my needs are sufficed? How can a collective deny me coming over demand 70% of goods that others have gathered through hard manual labour, while I can provide them only hentai sketches? How is Theft defined in cummunist world, when there's no property in non-hierarchical society you can steal from others?
My problem with socialists in general is that most of them have never done a day of work in their lives. I don't like having a college kid tell me what's best for the working class. He's not even part of the fucking working class.
Every one of them wants to be a philosopher or political leader, none of them can see themselves as the worker with the rifle. In order for their system to work, they need a lot of fucking workers and a lot of fucking rifles.
They can't relate to the workers, and chances are they've never held a rifle.
I'm talking from the position of someone who's been in the trades since High School and went through a commie phase. I'm all for unions, and worker cooperative ownership could even work if the workers aren't dumbfucks.
I just don't see how you're gonna revive something that has tried and has failed multiple times. (weather or not you think that's true, and people can argue forever about that, that's how most people see it) with the same tired-ass hammer and sickle, red flag shit.
