How are homosexuality and traps “degenerate”, when the Ancient Greeks, the founding fathers of Western culture, fugged little boys?
How are homosexuality and traps “degenerate”, when the Ancient Greeks, the founding fathers of Western culture...
David Richardson
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Adrian Young
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Hudson Nelson
Mason Brown
That's so ancient man
monkeys is the new cool
Jaxson Cook
>I build a bridge
>I fuck a goat
>"what do you mean fucking goats is wrong? Do you hate bridges?"
Carter Sanders
Exactly. We should all be fucking our bro's and have a debate after. Aniki is peak human performance.
Jaxon Allen
The only true way to conquer men is through their butthole
John Perry
well do you?
Just stop using bridges if you think people who invented them and build them are so immoral.
Julian Reyes
this is how aids was contracted.
also what is pic related. it has man hands and man nose but looks like little anime girl
Anthony Reyes
as long as everyone involved is of age and consenting who the fuck cares what you're doing to other people? drink piss or fuck dudes or stuff horse dildos up your cunt, whatever, just don't do anything beyond hugs, reasonable kisses (not sloppy makeouts and necking), and hand holding in public.
Josiah Murphy
Meds aren't white, faggot, and Democracy is a shit system.
Wyatt Collins
source of your pic pls
Christian Fisher
Well you see user they'r- BING BING YIPPIE BING BING WAHOO
Brody Rodriguez
>165246322
they didnt
Logan Russell
maybe you'll learn something
youtube.com
Lincoln Mitchell
They didn’t. Herodotus calls it degenerate and said it’s detestable.
Jaxon Lee
You must be new.
People here describe gays as "degenerate" because history tells us that anything outside of a heterosexual (mainly monogamous) relationship leads to decline. However I would say it's the acceptance itself and that acceptance is a sign of decline rather than a cause.
Also the average human being cringes at the sight of gay people let alone the thought of them bumming or scissoring. I'm gay but as a kid I knew 2 people of the same sex kissing was weird as shit. Even now I have to check myself when I see lesbians holding hands.
Besides,
>The Ancient Greeks fugged little boys
You don't even know that that's true.
If you ask me, it's highly unlikely that men who were attracted to men gained enough of a following back in that day to have an impact on societal norms in that way, especially in that military environment.
Even now, gays feel separate from their colleagues in the military and we're supposed to be far more "enlightened" these days.
It doesn't make sense.
Dominic Harris
>gay people existed in the past
>so why isn't everyone gay today
Blake Hughes
>it has man hands
Those are tiny girl hands. I wonder how small hands you have if you thought those were "man hands".
Tyler Gonzalez
Fucking a qt twink in his boipussy isn't gay nor degenerate, fags who don't have families and think relationship with other man counts as a marriage are
Aiden Cox
more pics of this semon demon pls
Carter Cox
>i have to check myself
stopped reading there. "Checking yourself" is literally self-censorship. You are holding back your true emotions to give way to an idea that might not even be the right one. Are you sure you want to live that life? Hold back your own human nature simply for the sake of what jews and famous TV retards say?
Logan Mitchell
gaaaaaaaaaaaaz
gaaaaaaaaaaas
Nathaniel Edwards
people have gotten so paranoid about this shit that they'll find masculinity in everything
Austin Roberts
Isn't she that Turkroach who're gf with some Asian dude?
Austin Wright
>i'm telling you titass, you gotta try buttfucking
Jace Wright
>Ancient Greek civilization is in litteral decline
>New generations disobey their fathers and families and start fucking everything because fuck patriarchy lmao
>This is somehow seen as the sexual norm of the ancient world by modern historians
The ancients didn't run around being fags. It's a lie. Like most historical "facts" you have heard of.
Owen Lewis
Why was this so common among various cultures all around the world?
Jason Thomas
>Symptom of cultural collapse
I don't dispute this but what exactly is a cultural collapse? Is it something to panic over? I don't think so.
Cultures change all the time, not always in the way we want, but there will always be both positive and negative.
I don't think it's death and destruction myself, I think it's just change.
What are you guys' thoughts?
Ryan Howard
no that is anzu and its an russian asian
Brody Powell
Common misconception that military environment thing. They had citizen soldiers instead, men felt obligated to fight for their polis by their own free will, at least in the more civilized polis like Athens, Thebes etc. Sure there were professional soldiers too, but the citizen soldier was model.
And then there's Sparta, but even the Greeks themselves thought of the Spartans and their customs as weird
Also, yes they did diddle other men, not all certainly and it wasn't as widespread as OP makes it. It just wasn't that frowned upon. But again, there's many differences between the Greeks, so
Eli Fisher
>w w we do t k ow anything g about actual history
Brandon Morales
That's what an emo would say. Or have the abbos overrun Australia yet?
Lincoln Walker
This
Ethan James
There's nothing wrong with it. Lot's of people here just hate freedom.
Henry Lopez
that's not a trap that's anzu!
Bentley Gomez
>incel-tier: MGTOW
>normie-tier: roasties
>chad-tier: any girl they want
>elite-tier: anything they want
Kevin Scott
100% true and not gay. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay if it was gay but its not gay anyway so it wouldn't matter because its 100% not gay.
Lucas Adams
How did Greece turn out?
Jose Anderson
Change is literally death and destruction.
Chase Thomas
Would fug, traps are god tier.
Wyatt Roberts
>Is it something to panic over?
If it's your culture, then yeah, you should absolutely panic over it.
David Harris
Maybe you didn't see my flag.
Lesbians in public irk me but 2 men kissing turn me on.
The reason I check myself is because I don't want to be a hypocrite lol.
Did you even read my post you knob?
>Sure there were professional soldiers too, but the citizen soldier was model.
That's fascinating to me if true but I just don't think it is.
As a gay man I have plenty of experiences with straight men (well, mainly in school) not wanting me around and seeing how cautious they are about not wanting to appear effeminate in any way.
Either
1- Soldiers fucked with teen boys because they were just regular ol' homos (like we see today) and used the "bonding" shit as an excuse
2- The above was drawn onto some vases because it was "like, art and shit" and historians misinterpreted it to be a common thing
3- Soldiers as masculine as can be actually fucked with teen boys because they genuinely believed it would make them a stronger force even though the average heterosexual male detests homosexual male affection. Maybe it was ok because the word "gay" didn't exist for them to see homosexual activity as "other".
The 3rd option to me is highly unlikely for the reason stated in my previous post.
Michael Nelson
Source on the pic? I have an urge.
Jordan Brooks
homosexuality is not degenerate.
and neither is fucking boys.......i once fucked a 14-yr-old
Lucas Wilson
I might be racist, sexist, and homophobic but my dick doesn't discriminate.
Dominic Scott
Who out there would say this isn't cute?
Jason Wilson
pls op tell me that your image isnt a trap. otherwise ive done something that i might regret
Robert Cooper
I bet her penis is so feminine it naturally has a bow
Nathaniel Gutierrez
>i once fucked a 14-yr-old
Tell Milo "Hi"
Colton Anderson
They DIDN'T, you fucking faggot.
Liam Reed
I'm not sure what role traps would have in a tribe, but probably some form of support and raising kids, since they are feminine.
Since women were busy being pregnant all the time, very feminine guys could really help them out.
And homosexuality is not degenerate. I'm a faggot, so I know.
Wyatt Sanchez
Get this faggot shit off my board
Sage
Isaac Howard
Did you just admit you committed a felony?
Owen Powell
>one guy calls it bad so they didnt
Top level intellect
Adrian Evans
>If it's your culture, then yeah, you should absolutely panic over it.
Why choose to panic when I can choose to use the positives to my advantage?
There are positives and negatives in everything.
For example let's compare 1998 with a hypothetical 2038:
1998
>Nobody knows your fetish exists let alone accepts it
>Going abroad means having to be wary of their culture and learning some of their language
>Emailing is convenient but it's for nerds, so gay
>You don't listen to Spice Girls because "that's gay"
2038
>You haven't managed to shake off your fetish because it's part of your foundation but it now has a name and you've met other people who are into it online
>Going abroad means better weather, cool architecture, new sounds, smells and tastes, but everybody speaks English so you can make new friends
>You can message your friends across the world
>You listen to whatever music you want because hey we're all just people and we don't have to lie anymore.
You guys on this board choose to be paranoid and pessimistic.
Robert Adams
it is not
Jace Ross
Robert Green
The ancient greeks WERE fucking degenerates you retard. The romans knew it well and tried for centuries to keep that shit out of their mos maiorum.
Eli Murphy
Hey, fellow faggot. Wanna meet up and fuck?
Brody King
I did read it.
And it made me imagine people in greece trying to get other people in greece to hop on the bum train.
And when I tried to come up with a greek name, titass came to mind.
All cleared up?
Asher Rivera
how is this Sup Forums related?
the fuck outta here ya filth.
Charles Perez
only if you are good looking trap, fag
Joshua Jones
Was about to post this. Also this is now best trap thread.
Parker Wilson
You must be one brave kike if you still live in Germany, faggot.
John Baker
James Cox
>Ancient Greeks
gee what ever happened to them anyway
Luis Watson
I am.
David Campbell
>that stomach
How can women even compete?
Jason Parker
Totally true man. As long as you were a free citizen and could afford to buy the equipment. Greeks viewed war as an inevitable evil, a part of human nature and service was considered an honorable thing. That being said, the concept of using mainly volunteers instead of essentially "free" slave was way ahead of it's time, but those guy wouldn't get much training so they weren't as effective. The Spartans on the other hand had a true professional army and it showed through dominance.
Dude, forget about fucking school man. You've got a bunch of teens that are trying to fit in, being womanly isn't really a good way to do so in a group of men, even association raises suspicion. Surprisingly, when we would talk about back benchers we would just crack jokes and eventually come to the conclusion that, meh, they do their thing we do ours. I don't remember any real malice, with the exception of one or two dudes who were over the top Sup Forumsacks.
Personally I don't care enough to have an opinion on doorknob lickers, but I've noticed two things. 1. Most have a fan fucking tastic sense of humor and 2. You pooftas fetishize the fuck out of straight men, which is hilarious.
As for the diddling. It's been years since I've last read on ancient Greece so my stuff's a little spotty I think. I'm pretty sure it was viewed mostly as something that unmarried men would do when they got the urge or men campaigning away from home. Kinda like a masturbatory aid thing. It was also used as a, "I'm mentoring you so you bend over for me" kind of a deal
Adrian Moore
>citation needed
Aiden Robinson
James Myers
i would want to marry a good looking trap and a girl in the same time
i wouldn't mind if they would fuck each other as long as i could have both their asses pleasing my cock whenever i wanted to
Blake Russell
because
Nathan Robinson
odakle?
Hunter Wood
Post you in a skirt.
Jaxson Garcia
Jesus Christ founded Western culture, you ungrateful dog.
Nathaniel Robinson
By trying harder. If they don't see men being better women than them as a problem, they can't be helped.
Jace Carter
Hell is for ever!
Kayden Sanders
>Jesus Christ founded Western culture
Luis Jackson
fucking croats should have never let you leave
Jordan Evans
I doubt he did, but you surly admitted to being a retard. Lurk moar
If I'm going to pay for your useless trash that you neeeeeeed, feed you, protect you and put up with you, then you bet your ass Imma have some demands pumpkin. At the end of the day, I don't need a woman, I don't get lonely because I don't have a woman, I don't go hungry because I don't have a woman and I can take care of myself and keep my place in order despite not having a woman. Try harder
Aaron Perry
Iz Zagreba.
Brody Gomez
>American Education
Logan Wood
I-i know :(
Lincoln Collins
>Greeks the founding fathers
That's the most knobish sentence I ever read
Jackson Reyes
discord?
Jason Robinson
you faggots wish Anzu had a dick
Isaiah Sullivan
Bumming is sick you retards. Use a vagine or get theropy.
Carter Myers
ubite se
Samuel Reed
The only thing women have going is the ability to impregnate them.
Jaxson Miller
how can it be gay if they look like girls?
Brody Perry
Pusti decu da se vole
Lincoln Green
user why do lie to yourself?
Andrew Ward
Which they will hold over our heads until we perfect artificial wombs.
Nolan Walker
Why?
Wyatt Perry
What are you on about you idiot. The Romans did the same exact thing and while homosexuality was kinda sorta accepted, it wasn't widespread. Also, when talking about Greeks, who do you mean? The Spartans were almost alien to the Athenians, their customs were viewed as odd. Same goes for the Macedonians and the Rhodians. Greek wasn't a unified thing and what was common in Thebes wasn't necessarily in Apollonia
Joseph Miller
Well... it's not?
Alexander Ramirez
No discord. Do you have a throwaway?
Kayden Brooks
da barem proxy upale da nas ne sramote pred cijelim svijetom