There's no way the founding fathers ever saw assault rifles and the like existing. The constitution is a piece of paper written 300 years ago and it's disgusting how many of you cling to it despite all of the bloodshed it's caused.
Gun control NOW!
Josiah Scott
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Ryder Howard
>pic related
Evan Rogers
ignore bait threads
Dominic Reyes
Frankly, lets ban it all. As long as I can get an operational cannon and musket
Brandon Cox
I'm starting to think some of you guys might be reverse-shills. Scaremongering to boost gun sales. Are you a gun shop owner or something?
Logan Gomez
Liam Johnson
Horrible analogy. Last time I checked, medicine and Twitter don't kill people. People with guns kill people.
Isaac Torres
Why is Sup Forums so scared of dissenting thought?
Samuel Baker
>medicine doesn't kill people
Try taking diazepam and alcohol together.
Christopher Edwards
>medicine
Accidental overdose can cause death
>Twitter
Used by nasty trolls to hurt feelings. Hurt feelings can cause death.
Alexander Lee
2nd Amendment did not apply to just muskets. Do some research before posting.
Zachary Young
Fuck off
Carson Sullivan
is that bottom gun from pimpmygun?
Ethan Fisher
They had rapid fire weapons - and shit like cannons. Not everyone was rocking a musket.
Robert Powell
Shill
Jace Baker
>Medicine doesn't kill people
Colton Ortiz
You know that medical malpractice is a larger killer in the US than guns, right? By like 10x.
Alexander Campbell
The opium epidemic is far more dangerous than mass shootings
Easton Brown
When the founding fathers wrote the first amendment there were only type setters and hand cranked printing presses. Now we have CNN and the likes of Buzzfeed. We need to ban such shit immediately!
Andrew Young
>opium
What is this, the 1800s? I think you mean opiates.
Jacob Butler
moron
Daniel Richardson
Problem is that you regulate weapons with late 20th century and 21th century laws when 18th century law clearly states not to fuck with people's weapons.
Juan Clark
>excuse me, just a gun from 1718 here to destroy your argument
>don't mind me
Nathaniel Nguyen
kek
>muh strawmen
Look newfag, I will fill you in on a secret. You know why you came here, I know why you came here, We all know why you came here.
Christopher Watson
>medicine doesn't kill people
accept more than "gun deaths" in America.
Easton Nguyen
>One round per minute
Dylan Gonzalez
we dont like idiots here.
Cameron Cruz
tell that to the docs that kill 200k annually.
Jordan Torres
Ever heard of grapeshot?
Jason Bell
Luke Lee
Most murders are committed with handguns, not rifles. Don't fall for the assault weapon myth.
Nolan Campbell
They had gatling guns when the constitution was written
Matthew Perry
cnn causes brain damage.
Ian Ward
Wrong. The equation is People with internet to kill will use X weapon to accomplish their goal.
Gabriel Lewis
Gun sales are going to hit new records. Keep it up Commies.
Samuel Morgan
Then amend it faggot. All you need is 3/4 of the states to approve an amendment and you can get rid of the 2A. Good luck.
Aaron James
Opioids kill plenty of people. They've ruined our country much worse than guns ever did
Noah Young
A better analogy would be to reverse anchor babies citizenships. The constitution wasnt meant for them.
Kevin Collins
kek
Luke Jones
Assault vehicles kill more per year than 'assault' weapons lets deal with that first.
Liam Morris
Surely by that logic blacks can't have guns or even rights.because at the time if writing they were slaves? Could the founding fathers not forsee this either?
Checkmate libtards
Carson Cruz
Guns kill people
Spoons make people fat
Keyboards misspell words
Cars drive drunk
Mike Brown dindu nuffin
I literally felt my brain cells dying as tried typing out those liberal thoughts...
Jayden Richardson
i have been seeing this meme, FUCK YOU SHARIA BLUE
Christopher Brown
>1 round per minute
What? Try 3-4
Robert Butler
I highly doubt that. They spend so much time on wording, they most likely explored the implications of the second amendment
Gabriel Morales
OP is a kike faggot.
Charles Diaz
And they never saw shit like twatter, goybook, instagay, or internet homosexual hook up ads so lets repeal the first amendment too because they make me feel uncomfortable and have resulted in deaths
good logic
Jaxson Hall
machine guns were in fact a thing back then and they predated the constitution by like 50 years
Isaac Campbell
sage
Oliver Jackson
gib links
Evan James
why would we use laws on 18th century weapons used to defend ones self from an 18th century government armed with the same weapons, when the govenment upgraded a long time ago
Ryan Wood
GIVE ME YOUR GUNS NOW!!!
Jack Rivera
Die
Xavier Allen
>slide
Jaxon Perez
OK, dolt, then remember that "Freedom of the Press" involved printing presses that produced one hand-fed printed sheet at a time, no radio, no TV, no Internet. See where this is going?
The 2nd Amendment referred to modern military hardware of that era. Armed citizens, the body of the people.
I'm going to pick up an extra thousand rounds in your honor, bonehead.
Aiden Brown
point is, americans need access to multibillion dollar planes and nukes in order to at all make it constitutionally fair
a bunch of ARs today is the equivalant of having a slingshot in the 18th century, its still not balanced
Hudson Morris
>There's no way the founding fathers ever saw assault rifles and the like existing.
Our firearm rights aren't subject to what firearms existed when the founding fathers wrote the founding documents.
>The constitution is a piece of paper written 300 years ago
Our firearm rights are not subject to the age of the constitution.
>and it's disgusting how many of you cling to it despite all of the bloodshed it's caused.
Our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths.
Benjamin Butler
>People with guns kill people.
Our firearm rights aren't subject to other abusing their firearm rights.
Jayden Carter
>Why is Sup Forums so scared of dissenting thought?
Why are you so afraid of the people having the ability to stand up to gungrabbers?
Carson Parker
Ryder Scott
The first amendment arguments in this thread are terrible since leftists are more inclined to agree with your strawmen than listen to you.
Christian Sanders
Our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths, regardless of where they might have happened.
But yes, the largest killer of people has always been an armed government (and usually Communist).
Gabriel King
No, it's a perfect analogy. You claim that the Founding Fathers wrote the 2A based on technology at the time, and that because the technology changed the 2A no longer applies. Facebook and Twitter didn't exist in 1789, does that mean the 1A does not apply? How about television or radio? How about the 4A? Why is it necessary for the federal government to get a warrant before spying on your email and computer files? Niote sed the generic term "arms" in the 2A. They did not specify muskets or cannons or swords. The meant arms in the broadest sense to mean any weaponry necessary to defend liberty. The fact that because weapons are tools used for killing doesn't change the meaning or intent of the 2A. Killing is a feature of a weapon, not a bug.
Evan Smith
sorry, my guns are mine. how bout i toss you a few bullets from the gun for free?
Nathan Morgan
You'll never take 'em fool. Best case is you try and then your village will sing songs about you for a couple weeks.
Luke Perry
Is it just a rifle if you don't assault with it?
Nicholas Martinez
medicine kills way more people than guns m8
Brayden Nguyen
They call it an "assault weapon" so they can justify making all firearms illegal because by definition, all firearms can "assault" someone.
Connor White
look at how it turned out for Cambodia and get back to me.
Jason Johnson
Even though the Puckett gun, a machine gun made in 1717 was around and used by the US at that time of writing
Luis Price
Your level of ignorance is staggering. You must be really fucking stupid and uneducated (you probably went to Penn like Trump). Anyway, as everyone knows, prior to the abomination that was the Heller decision, The Supreme Court held that there was no individual right to bare arms (the right to arm bears is a different story). Yes, you found some avowed libertarians who, in an attempt to be cunning linguists, ignored pretty much all of the rules of grammar of the English language. However, if you read any of the source documentation of the time (e.g. The Federalist Papers), it is clear that you'd have to be an imbecile of the highest order to conclude that the intent was to impart the right of each individual to have nuclear weapons in their respective homes. For a cliff notes version of the real history, read this:
washingtonpost.com
Note that it was not written by a comedian, but rather a History professor.
Look, I get that your mom doesn't let you out of the basement very often, but before you post on something, you should have at least a 2nd grade level education, which is something that you clearly lack.
You might be tempted to reply, but if you do, I will just destroy your pathetic arguments without breaking a sweat. You are seriously outclassed here given your intellectual deficiencies. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
Jonathan King
This argument again... sage
Cameron Fisher
>yfw "gun control" is basically just making guns very expensive so only rich people and criminals have guns
>yfw liberals that hate "muh evil corporations" support this
Adrian Morales
No we have a simple argument, come and try.
Adam Smith
Daniel Turner
Just like they never saw cars or flight or the internet, kike. Stop being cringe
Caleb Cox
Austin Lopez
first of all, sage
Second of all, guns are used defensively nearly twice as much (at the lowest estimate) as they are used in violent crime.
Brandon Lewis
Wow, you're even dumber than I thought. It is a shame that you waste oxygen that could be going to a more worthy life form. That said, congrats, you manged to find someone who agrees with you.
Now, you asserted that I do not have any argument. If you had any shred of intelligence you would understand that in order to present a counter to me that you would need to refute what I said. Since there is no counter argument to it, only disingenuous posturing (and sycophantic morons who follow them), you don't even try.
Your link even talks about how there is over 200 years of precedence that was ignored in the Heller decision. It then takes the height of arrogance to assume that those justices didn't understand what was going on. Also, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Trump University was more of an actual University than Prager is.
Yes, there are conservatives who believe, incorrectly, like you do, that there was an intent to give individuals rights in the 2nd, but most of these are lying just to get attention.
I have over 200 years of decisions along with all of the original texts (that we're cherry-picked) on my side. I know that facts don't matter to conservatives, after all, reality does have a well known liberal bias, but hopefully someday you can get the help that you need in order to become a productive member of society.
Chase Sanders
>yway, as everyone knows, prior to the abomination that was the Heller decision, The Supreme Court held that there was no individual right to bare arms (the right to arm bears is a different story).
Our firearm rights exist separate from the constitution.
Even if the gungrabbers got their will and erased the second amendment, we'd still have the right to own whatever weapons we wanted.
They're called constitutionally protected rights and not constitutionally granted rights after all...
Joshua Parker
on twitter you can troll someone to death
Aaron Martinez
Nolan Davis
No I'm saying I can order Tannerite and 37mm launchers online with no permit required.
Checkmate long-winded faggot.
David Parker
Seriously anons
>18th century gun law
>21st century guns
Gavin Davis
Ok so then it should be legal to kill you.
5000+ year old laws against killing after all.
Oliver Harris
That's a machine gun not a rifle idiot, can a person buy a machine gun in 1778?
Liam Moore
1718*
Adam Collins
Actually yes.
Julian Johnson
>being this retarded
>18th century gun law
>21st century guns
Lincoln Foster
I'm just posting copypasta I found on /r/poker of all places.
Nicholas Martinez
Samuel Powell
See
Justin Rodriguez
th century gun law
Our firearm rights aren't subject to the age of the documents written that protect our firearm rights.
Daniel Torres
All these strawman arguments. No one is coming after the 2nd amendment. There's nothing wrong with rifles for hunting or pistols for self defense and range shooting etc. We should be doing everything we can to keep mentally unstable and historically violent people from acquiring semi automatic military weapons. What's the big fucking deal?
Caleb Torres
bruh malpractice kills more in a year than mass shootings have since 1910.
Jaxon Thompson
I spent today making a new gun.
Lincoln Long
We want to use those people to kill Jews.
Benjamin Scott
You can't nail down a waterproof definition or profile for said people. Meaning it comes from "has literally beat his son to death" to "posted a mean meme on CNN's twitter" in a matter of 2 years for firearm bans.
Wyatt Rodriguez
>No one is coming after the 2nd amendment.
One of the speakers today (Kang's granddaughter) called for a gun-free world.
How else are they going to achieve that if not by revoking the second amendment and mass confiscation?
> We should be doing everything we can to keep mentally unstable and historically violent people from acquiring semi automatic military weapons.
I agree. Just not at the expense of everyone else's rights.
>What's the big fucking deal?
Because the gun grabbers want to disarm all the people.
Gavin Cox
>can a person buy a machine gun in 1778?
Um... yes?
People had private, fully operational ships of the line in 1778? The war effort was funded and armed in part by citizens' private fundings and arsenals??? Hello?????????