Trump is a failure, democracy is a failure

Go back to your roots Sup Forums, channel chaos and Will to Power to redpill the world and accelerate the collapse of the current system. AND FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE BRING BACK THAT MEME MAGIC POWER. You did amazing things before, and you still can. Hail Victory.

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NatSoc is the only way out.

Let's do it.
Operation Lazarus is now underway.

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Classical Liberalism >>> NatSoc

I like having free speech and don't want to live under totalitarianism.
The problem is C. Liberalism is a very fragile system. It basically runs on the honor system and can only work in High Trust societies.

If we can take back the board we can have our influence spread far and wide. Since the election our discussions have been completely smothered by gibberish.

High trust societies of White People. Also, fuck off Sargon.

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Israel #1
Fuck the 4th amendment n sheeit

you're right OP, it's time to go full on 1488

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>Classical Liberalism
It's the reason why we are in this mess to begin with.
>and can only work in High Trust societies.
Exactly. Similar to communism, it can't work because it requires the people to be a certain way, which is not in our human nature.

>I like having free speech and don't want to live under totalitarianism.
Free speech is a meme.Right now, people can just argue that free speech "doesn't" mean "hate speech", which can involve censors. Given a system like NatSoc, totalitarianism is not so bad if the leader really cares about the country(like Hitler).

Rally the forces. It's time.
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the real problem is the same problem all governments have, the regime change. The deep state always takes over eventually

we couldn't even solve the problem for 8ch so I have no confidence we can solve the problem for more than one generation collectively with lower minds than we had on 8ch

8ch became a fucking mess. They started banning people who even remotely disagreed with Trump and now it's run by a Haji and a kike.

deep down, we all know what the final solution is.
unironically... I think Italy will be the first to rise.

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The lord god will bring us deliverance, by his will be done that we will undo this fallen world and either from the ashes of hellfire will emerge a new order that follows the true laws of nature and commandments or we all perish and the righteous receive life eternal. Deus Vult

Modified NatSoc to fit America's heavy individualism.

So basically Confederacy 2.0

we weren't able to find a way to keep the site running without someone having root perms on all boards and there is nobody who can be trusted with that level of power

The individual is a sinful aberration of a decadent society.

On a serious note, where do you even start?
Do you tear down the reserve banking systems?

>I think Italy will be the first to rise.
As it's done since the beginning. I'm ready for another Rome again.

There's always /polk/ too. It just doesn't have the same traffic.

>Similar to communism, it can't work because it requires the people to be a certain way, which is not in our human nature.

Communism can never work because it goes against human nature (no reward for doing better. etc) and requires a hive mind but humans aren't a hive mind. The only way communism can work is with a dictator ... and then it's not real communism.

I consider myself a Lib.

Classical Lib doesn't require a hive mind. It just asks that people follow bare minimum rules of Libertarianism. We can do that. The problem is it's alot like the Paradox of Tolerance.

Since Classical Lib runs on the honor system, any society that doesn't place "boundaries" (like unrestricted free speech) has to be intolerant of intolerance i.e. those who want to come here and place them.

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It's going to be either Greece or Sweden first.

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all of 8ch is fucked now. There were others that were in progress but I don't know how they ended up

Nazis fuck off. Sup Forums is a libertarian board. We like free speech and we want small government. That is literally why you're on Sup Forums and not Stormfront you fucking retards, because you enjoy free speech here without getting banned for making the wrong posts.

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>We like free speech and we want small government.
So you want another jewmarica?

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America was set up in mind to escape the totalitarianism of European monarchies. America will never follow a failed foreign ideology whose peak was barely two decades.

Communism can work when the communities are small enough and everyone is strongly dependent on each other, communities with less than 200 people for sure.

>because you enjoy free speech here without getting banned for making the wrong posts.

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Italy first, and then related groups(NRM, Golden Dawn) will become emboldened and make their move. lets keep fingers crossed

A good way to tell of what a person is like is to see how they handle differing opinions. If a dictator of a country kills people just because he disagrees with them or they disagree with him, then he can kindly go fuck himself. If, however, he takes criticisms into account, ones that are actually legitimate, that is, and makes appropriate changes, then he will be much more respected as a leader. A wise leader always keeps his ears open, but his sword sheathed.

>America will never follow a failed foreign ideology
But libertarian is a failed ideology. Now America is more socialist with a hint of capitalism. Your ideology failed, and it didn't take much. At least NatSoc was defeated and wiped out without ever proving that it failed or it was the wrong step for Germany.

>inB4 muh war and holohoax

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First, you have to be able to address it.
Israel #1

>when you realize pol is alone fighting for western civilization while the rest of humanity is hellbent on destroying what thousands of years of progress has created

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We are not currently in a world war or a civil one so i think hes doing alright.

Sad, isn't it?

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There is one war that matters. It will determine the fate of the world.
We could establish reign that touches the stars, but we need to get our shit together.

mfw

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The tech is already there for deep space travel.
I think and interesting thing to discuss would be where these systems came from, these banking and social control systems.

ISRAEL #1

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No.

>classical liberalism means free speech
>natsoc means totalitarianism

>Liberalism
Are you really that out of touch with the last 35 years of political science? Liberalism, left and right wing, are exactly why are are in the mess we are in. It completely eroded the cultural logic of society.

The problem was that functionally, liberalism was actually implicitly constrained by forms of communitarianism. It slowly eroded and cannibalized this, which left us in this pomo hellscape.

The solution to the problems caused by liberalism is not more liberalism.

I think some form of communitarianism may be a solution, NatSoc falls under this.

However, trying to explicitly label it as NatSoc and suddenly adopting LARPy German aesthetic from decades ago is insane and will never catch on in America.

In short, it really does matter what we call it, and NatSoc will be poisoning our own well.

this

>However, trying to explicitly label it as NatSoc and suddenly adopting LARPy German aesthetic from decades ago is insane and will never catch on in America.
True. Although the majority of true white Americans are from German descent, the US now is too mutt'd to adopt that. NatSoc needs to be repackaged, tweaked, and called something else.

National socialism is just the term of the ideology. It's THE ideology, that's the only name it really has.

yeah Sup Forums is a great enjoyable board where BBC posters, waifu wars posters, fag/tranny porn posters, r/hapas shills, and retarded ancaps like you don't get immediately and summarily banned

go look at the sticky you dumb faggot. free speech doesn't and shouldn't exist
>muh absolutism
lolbertarianism is babby's first philosophy

Even socialist technocracy is better than classical liberalism.

Also bumping the thread

>channel chaos
>accelerate the redpills

Then why the fuck didn't you vote Hillary? As it stands she would've unironically been better than Trump. Liberals would've been stupidly emboldened, her arrogant ass would've pulled us into a blatant conflict (or attempted a 2A rewrite/confiscation), and we'd be knee deep in the much needed civil war in this country already. Now we're dying yet another death of a thousand cuts because the right is placated and liberals are taking the "moral" high ground by reclaiming their much prized "victim" status.

The magic is dead. The chance for memes is over. This country needs the kind of reset that doesn't stem from an Icelandic tuna tickling forum.

Take back Sup Forums

OP sounds ready to shill gore, but does that really drive down traffic?

Socialism is the end state of unchecked Democracy, which is the most unstable form of government.

This is why it's instantly overtaken by a Monarch.

Natural progression

>Monarchy -> Tyranny -> Aristocracy -> Oligarchy -> Democracy -> Mob Rule -> Monarchy

Be honest and call yourself a monarchist.

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>Just a humble chicken farmer ...
Dreaming of a founding a department of occult science.

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See:
NatSocs are confused monarchists.

If you think I'm wrong thought experiment:
Unfettered Democracy with all these trash brown people -for or against?

You're against. You want a strong man to evict them.

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Monarchism is a meme ideology just like all the anarchos.
National socialism is an established and well thought out ideology.

We need to collide factions with one another. Use the enemy's force against themselves. The best fight is won with not a single direct attack.
Who cares if the retards have lots of resources and bigger numbers if they start fighting against themselves?
Chaos is the new God of war.

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He's right though, Trump bought them some more time. You don't want to piss off whites, they know this now so they threw us a bone so we'd behave while they worked things out.

bumpo

Bumping again

>Socialism
Are we talking Marxist socialism? NatSoc wasn't socialist, btw.

is it 2012?

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Give me advice on how I can help! Whatever it takes, i'll do it!

I pointed out on more than one occasion that Trumps and Clintons were awfully cozy prior to election time, yet I was merely labelled a D&C shill by MAGAfags (as I likely will be now). I think people around here caught on years ago to the fuckery being played against us by certain (((people))), but I don't think they've yet fully realized just how big the game is and how good they are at it. They're absolute geniuses at reading public perceptions and using them against us. Many here think Don is playing 44D chess with his (and their) opponents; but as far as I can see it's the people who are getting played.

t.maga boomer

You faggots are the ones shitting up this board.

This. If you've been on Sup Forums for awhile and aren't a full natsoc there is no hope for you.

Bring back Feudalism

I'm a natsoc but it IS totalitarian which is a good thing.

Chekt. Seig heil.

Wrong. Our first priority is to overturn the holocause myth. You don't understand how fickle the populace is. Once the curtain has been pulled and people see the kikes behind it all they'll embrace a nazi aesthetic. Think GLR.

That cant be our first goal, we would have to work up to that. Even if we did prove it they still wouldn't believe it, they would be in denile almost. We first have to re-brand ourselves to not look like the bad guys.

I mean it should be our #1 priority. That's the key stone keeping this liberal world order intact. There will obviously be steps in getting there.

that's true

oof

No, no, God almighty no. Give up the holocaust thing. No one will ever believe you, even with a mountain of evidence behind you. It's too ingrained in the collective mythology of the modern west. It'd be like trying to convince a Baptist preacher evolution is real. This is a 100% unwinnable battle, and any movement that seeks to advocate for the continuation of European culture and ethnic heritage needs to acknowledge this. You absolutely cannot convince people it didn't happen. You will never, at least not overtly, convince people that Hitler was a good person. But this doesn't matter. People are fickle and historically illiterate. Hitler and the Nazis are bad because Hollywood told them they were. You can still push your agenda, and sell it to a lot of people, but you cannot fly swastikas. Your end goal should be creating a populace that comes to these conclusions on their own, not tearing down the mythos yourself, because it will never work.

National Socialism was a political movement for the liberation of the German working class from international oppression. In fact Goebbels himself in his book airs the suggestion that NatSoc be succeeded by either a Republic or a Monarchy.

You have to read the books, man.

Fuck off kike. Have you seen how viral pro-nazis content has gone? Even a few of my more critical normie friends are interested when I tell them its bullshit. You have no idea how widespread anti-semetism is within the populace. Sup Forums gained its influence by being unabashedly critical. Ever since the_donald retards came over we've become a joke. The truth and the whole truth is the only way and these kikes pushing for "le optics xD" and civic nationalism need to be hung.

Bimp boomp

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So basically stormfront??

What do you think it was before lol

Sup Forums was natsoc since the very beginning. This "le stormcuck xD" meme is a new invention to influence the flood of redditors who came here with the election.

Totz mcgoatz dude

Sweden ? You got to be joking user.

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