Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Just found out Stalin didn't like Jews and had a plan to literally send them to death camps.
Always wondered why everyone hated him, now I know why. Stalin was /ourSchizo/
Jayden Gonzalez
How can you consider a hammer or a toothbrush a personal property, when in cummunism there's no property? What is difference between personal property and private property? If private property covers means of production, what stops me from disassembling a mean of production and claim the parts to be my personal property? Why would you waste resource producing more than say (hypothetically) 1 hammer/toothbrush per 7 persons?
How can one cultivate and harvest crops to personal use, when there's no personal property to be used for farming in cummunism? How do you allocate public land for this personal farming? Who allocates the public land used by the collective?
The ten Planks of Communist manifesto: #8 "Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture." > Equal obligation How can a stateless and non-hierarchical society enforce this? > Your work-time is equivalent to everybody else's work-time Am I forced to sit and drawn hentai for as long as others work in factory, if I don't want to do manual labour as an artist? If "... each according to his needs", what stops me claiming to acquire 70% of goods to suffice my needs? How can anyone else define how my needs are sufficed? How can a collective deny me coming over demand 70% of goods that others have gathered through hard manual labour, while I can provide them only hentai sketches? How is Theft defined in cummunist world, when there's no property in non-hierarchical society you can steal from others?
I keep asking this for every Communism thread on here but never get an answer.
What is the formal definition of Communism? Is it a money-less and classless society? Or is it one where the state has full control over all production and money still exists?
Elijah Moore
>Under both Socialism and Communism the means of production are controlled by the workers/citizens. Define "controlled"
I wonder why anglos are too lazy to even read a wikipedia article. Why the fuck would you ask on a shithole like Sup Forums to get valid informations on political theory.
Sigh... for starters have a look at this
Jace Gutierrez
>be communism >reduce working h to 7 > before they where 12
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
>Sdage for Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
Coal - from 36 million tonnes to 130 million tonnes Iron - from 3 million tonnes to 15 million tonnes Oil - from 2 million tonnes to 29 million tonnes Electricity - from 5,000 million to 36,000 million kilowatts
Is there anything more pathetic in all of existence than a commieboo weeb?
Jack Martin
Daily reminder the firsd coundry to physically REEEmove their (((central bank))) and allow muh fREEEEE margget banking™ will have the highest libing standurds in the third wulrd about 1000 dead child workers lader XDDDD
The workweek would shrink to 0 days a week like it wuz befur 4 us gleber businessmen. Old ppl would redire much earlier and die of starvation or siccness becuz rediremend muniez would be judeo-gommiesm. Dis will also lead to more jobs becoming available nadurally XDDD
EVERYONE would have high saving rades 4 muney made on da black marget. Houses would be inexpensive (nod fREEE) since they are owned by McDonald’s and slaves only have to pay their daily muniez to live dere. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically and physically becuz otherwise you will hab to pay up with your organs or kids. ;DDD
THICC automation of human trade would take place as the cost of human resurrsces would be extremely cheap lol. XD This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation in private child brothels as well. ;DDD
>dat private vs personal property definition And that's when you know you're full of shit.
Camden Kelly
It would be exdrrrremely easy for the average purson to start participating in slave trade due to the cheap cost of capital goods™.
Daily remeender actual free markets have prices falling all the time and crisis nevar happens ever XD
Daily reminder America NEVA had a system of free market banking™ for most of its hisdory and wuz lidderally gommie. DX Dere were only padches of American hisdory with free market banking™. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to gommie intervenation in the banking sector AND NOT DE FAULT OF INSTABLE GABITALISD ECONOMY. Sweden had the lungest most SUCCessful period of free banking™ and that's what made them really rich LOL it’s agdually Swedistan ad de same dime tho and Gommie too wait wut :/
Daily reeeminder the longest period of (relatively)fr33 banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REEEVOLUTION were slave wages rose and prices fell and conditions for low subhuman p00r people were ignored XD
Daily reminder (((central banks))) are literally Rothshild Kalgerhi Stalin Satan gommie and Jewish and da fr33 marget™ nevar has failed.
BASSically wut I'm saying is if we had a FRRRRRRREEH m4rgaret, the entire fucking country would be disneyland™ or universal child pr0n studios and 1% of population would barely have to work (lige nowadays oh waid I meen fugg gommies LOL XD)
Why would you NOT support this unless you were a shill nigga gommie jew that hates Amerimutt masterrace™???
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" XDDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology. > I refuse the read any basic economy book > but you have to read my outdated crap
> It is one the basic tenets of economics. It is also the painful lesson of the Soviet economy: if people can’t keep the fruits of their labor, they are not going to work as hard, they are not going to innovate, and their standard of living will stagnate truthjusticejoshway.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/the-turning-point-by-shmelev-popov/
Jack Wilson
In fact, no one votes for the Communists. My 90-year-old great-grandmother does not like to remember the 30s. Guess why.
Samuel Nguyen
Daily reminder the firsd coundry to physically REEEmove their (((central bank))) and allow muh fREEEEE margget banking™ will have the highest libing standurds in the third wulrd about 1000 dead child workers lader XDDDD
The workweek would shrink to 0 days a week like it wuz befur 4 us gleber businessmen. Old ppl would redire much earlier and die of starvation or siccness becuz rediremend muniez would be judeo-gommiesm. Dis will also lead to more jobs becoming available nadurally XDDD
EVERYONE would have high saving rades 4 muney made on da black marget. Houses would be inexpensive (nod fREEE) since they are owned by McDonald’s and slaves only have to pay their daily muniez to live dere. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically and physically becuz otherwise you will hab to pay up with your organs or kids. ;DDD
THICC automation of human trade would take place as the cost of human resurrsces would be extremely cheap lol. XD This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation in private child brothels as well. ;DDD
> Bureaucracy suppressed innovation. “Leveled” wages prevented good workers from making more money (“we pretend to work, you pretend to pay us”). Food and money was confiscated. Some of the results of these policies?
>-It was estimated 3-4 million people starved to death in 1933 during the Soviet Union’s “industrialization” phase.
>-Per capita USSR national income was about 50% of the American level while average per capital consumption of goods and services was estimated at 30-40% of the American level.
>-The World Health Organization concluded the average national child mortality level was about twice as high as the United States.
>-102 cities with a combined population of 50 million people contained air pollution 10 times beyond the permissible norm.
>The book, by Nikolai Shmelev and Vladimir Popov, serves as a solid history of the USSR’s dismal command economy. Strongly recommended for serious economic policy wonks, although I wouldn’t recommend a layman read this, as the book is steeped with a lot of economic jargon.
Are you for real? I lived under communism. I had to learn dialectic materialism. It's ramblings of a lunatic. Why would anyone in the right mind want to learn failed ideology?
The good thing is because I have exposure to this shit I can navigate current US society, where you think one thing, say another and do something entirely different, but it's not a good thing. The good thing is all the retarded gommunists will see insides of Gulags. I will actually avoid one, because I understand to stay the fuck away from the politics. Everyone who is politically active will be Gulaged, including all gommunists. You people are a definition of insanity. You know how it ends, but this time it's different, right? Half the country is nigger IQ anyway, so what do I expect?
Austin Taylor
I will say on the secret - elections in Russia do not exist. They do not go at all. I'm including.
If you actually knew how many people lived in China and Russia you would realize that this amount is rather small and that they still defeated those faggots lol
Wyatt James
>by itself Literally funded and rebuilt by the SURPLUS of American war financing in order to continue fighting the Germans.
Ryan Carter
Literally the only reason I opened the thread. Thanks Sup Forums.
Are there really people who are unironically communists? Is that possible? How? Why? Are you somehow not aware that communism is not and has not ever been anything other than a tool to destroy a society and starve its people to death?
Grayson Stewart
What a perfect place to start quoting some Marx.
"Je ne suis pas marxiste"
Jaxon Peterson
dank u XD am triggered when da beeple post nod reel gommunism
I am not hear to troll just to discuss Ok, I think that anyone who is a self proclaimed communist has been lied to and now lies to others. Communism at its core destroys beauty, just look at Russian realism during the socialist time period, it is not good because it has a purpose in shaping culture and not defining it. Your pic related will never happen. Communism destroys beauty as beauty is the greatest threat to a society which tells you are no more great then the next. It leads to boring world of dishonesty. You do not want to share your love with others, you just want to control others. That is the dishonesty in play. I recommend you read Demons (The Possessed) Dostoevsky. It will give you some insight on the history of communism in the country at the time. What defines this world is the peaks of humanity, ether in people threw self improvement or great works of art. Communism is a scourge upon the great and a weapon for the guise!
top kek the book I mention is from after all those studies, the berlin wall falling, and all the lies exposed communism failed because it's not for humans reason.com/archives/1990/05/01/soviet-suicide-plan > Shmelev and Popov's description of the Soviet economy exposes mainstream Western assessments as little more than fairy tales. They devote a chapter of their book to the falsification and distortion of statistical data in the Soviet Union, which they contend still occurs today. The revelation that "for three decades, from the end of the 1920s through the end of the 1950s, statistical distortions were so great that even the ordinal numbers were altered," implies that even assessments by conservative Western experts skeptical of Soviet success, such as the late G. Warren Nutter, give an optimistic rendition of Soviet economic performance.
Elijah Young
No one can top their achievements in efficient food production either. Look at all the extra lambshanks on lamby here.
