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Have you finished positioning for the crash of 2018?
Jackson Brooks
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Jaxon Cooper
I am ready for the anarchy and then for trump to start numerous unwinnable forever wars for distraction a la george w bush
Grayson Nelson
Why isn't 2008 plotted as well?
David Barnes
These wars are a necessity. For the future of the petro dollar
Noah Baker
Post yfw the Dow drops below 20,000 tommorow.
Easton Reed
Feel free to add it
Blake Reyes
Luis Adams
Because it wasn't really a "bubble" as such.
It was caused by an external factor.
Lucas Parker
Yeah I'm just gonna keep buying monthly. Time in market > timing in market.
If it crashes that only means my next few buys will be on a discount. It always recovers long term.
Benjamin Myers
WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THISSSSS
Carson Garcia
You'll be wishing you had invested your money in things like food and ammo when the Greater Depression begins, not paper equities.
Matthew Murphy
>It always recovers long term.
>forgets about how his faggot tulip fetish destroyed the world economy, and how tulips never came close to their peak value again
Landon Martin
I just started trading options last month and now I'm about to experience the biggest crash ever while holding nothing but call options after the market spent an entire year doing nothing but skyrocketing for no reason. this is my life.
Andrew Cox
mite b cool. I've been waiting since the shemitah.
Leo Garcia
I'm always ready.
Kevin Wright
Pic related SP500
Aaron Smith
>a single speculative asset with no underlying value is equal to partial ownership of a wide variety of companies making billions a year
It must hurt to be this financially illiterate.
Adrian Ortiz
So how do we profit off this? Buy gold?
Jaxon Rogers
>So how do we profit off this? Buy gold?
Short Facebook
Carson Long
This is correct
Shills are trying to shake out normies. Q1 earnings are going to come out in a few weeks and the market will rally. You can't have winners without losers so the bigger fish are trying to scare the little ones. Just stay on course and enjoy.
Michael Campbell
Help I don't know what to do.
Kayden Howard
Depends how much money you have and how much are you willing to risk.
Best bet IMO are 2x Inverse ETF's
Margin trading is just too risky.
Isaac Baker
I hope the housing market goes bust. I’m 26 and would love a good deal on a house. Boomers who are about to retire can piss off.
Jayden Young
I just put some money in too. Not enough to care about but it feels bad man. Might pull out and throw it all in a defense contractor.
Caleb Rivera
lol
short everything
Cooper Sullivan
>not realizing housing crash is caused by the pandemic of 2018
Christian Wilson
yup, the market is totally controlled by pictures, and definitely not related to the earnings of a company
Asher Foster
imagine if Sup Forums had a complete false marketing team (usual fashion) to spread this and scare big boy investors and recreate the wall street crash
Joshua Hill
>past performance is an indicator of future performance
Xavier Williams
Look for something big to go down in November. Until then, relax.
David Phillips
more or less, yes
Cooper Bailey
buy inherently valuable industries - back to basics people
companies that can make things with inherent value, like tractors and hydrolics and shit
Ethan Edwards
Carter Wright
Will it be the housing or the student debt bubble? I think student debt poses a larger threat on the long run, we all know the damage universities have done/still do. Yes there are faggots who deserve to get fucked, but there are also naive kids who either go bankrupt because they have no parents to guide them through such decisions and/or are needlessly converted into leftist slaves.
Nathan Smith
the coming pandemic will wipe out most of the kids, solving student debts and the housing bubble at the same time
Carter Martinez
futures are up at open...I'm scared but not selling. gotta trust Trump even if it kills me.
Charles Reyes
>Have you finished positioning for the crash of 2018?
What a question...
Nicholas Miller
Yea history never repeats itself
Jeremiah Sanders
I've got a small hedge that will net 5-6m if deep state can fuck shit up. I'm fine losing it though.
Carter Perry
please give to my paypal thanks
Lincoln Richardson
exactly. Market unchanged on the year after a gonzo 20 plus percent return in 2017.
Brody Reyes
Comfy af.
Oliver Butler
Yeah as long as you're diversified you're going to be fine in the long run, just like you were when you bought in 2008 or in the 80's.
James Gray
futures rarely mean shit unless it's by a substanial amount
besides they're down now and if you havent noticed, 90% of the activity occurs between 15:30 - close every single day
Jonathan Stewart
Can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcasm but if you bought at the absolute peak right before the 2008 crash you'd still be up 70% or about 5.5% annualy. Dollar cost averaging brings the worst case up to 7-8% at least. Not to even mention buying in the 80s. Crashes are literally not an issue if you're buying for the long term.
Benjamin Howard
Chase Fisher
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Alexander James
That's almost always true
Nathan Davis
I cant help but wonder if the Saudi / Yemen missile attack has something to do with tomorrow
Camden Watson
Already in. How rich will I be short 20 shares in tesla? I'm thinking I'll be a millionaire.
Parker Cooper
John Jackson
go with put options
Chase Phillips
So options make more?
David Bailey
I already looked at fb options but they were too expensive. Already have puts in 4 different stocks.
Daniel Richardson
Brody Brooks
Both years had actual recessions, while economic indicators are very strong for this Q1.
It's not going to happen, folks.
Leo Williams
Calm. All things are going according to plan
Jonathan Ortiz
Jack Mitchell
A depression would be awful. All those years spent on my RuneScape account would be for nothing
Eli Barnes
Austin Hernandez
Matthew Rivera
I have $87,500 on the market, been riding short since this shit storm started
Easton Miller
Matthew Miller
Yeah tomorrow is going to be bad with kikebook's continued problems, the petro yuan, and how china isn't buy as much of our debt anymore. I don't think that it's going to be as bad as people say though.
Chase Adams
Alexander Walker
Normally, this makes, sense. Now, however, everyone is in indexes. So a lot of stocks in those indexes are bought because indexes are bought. Nobody really buys stocks anymore, so there is no discrimination. Every stock in indexes is bought. So everything in big indexes is overvalued. When it drops, you will be buying a lot of zombies. That whole passive index investment is blowing up. Individual stocks rallied in Japan too, their index was in 30 year bear market, and is only going up because BOJ is buying indexes. US indexes are fucked too. There is hardly any flow into winners except for a few tech stocks. It's a form of socialism that's blowing up. Most of those stocks may not make it with real interest rates. Companies are massively mismanaged. There was a shortage of companies. All of this came together and created the money flow rally. If it all reprices, it will take a long time for indexes to recover after this massive outperformance. They were risk asset, nobody looks at actual stocks. Sort of like CDOs were. Nobody looked at what was in them. Indexes will not come back until people stop investing in indexes. Nobody thinks like that, and it will be major issues. The derivative and underlying traded places.
Jonathan Rivera
Reminder
Buy high, sell low
Isaac Gonzalez
About damn time.
Brandon Myers
Armed and ready.
Kayden Hill
>being a sodomite
Hell is for ever!
Thomas Diaz
Hello friends.
Nolan Moore
This was posted Jan. 06, 2018. Not much attention was paid to it at the time. Wat do?
Aiden Campbell
>if this becomes true this fucking graph will become the most reliable instrument in predicting the future
Jaxon Jenkins
I've been guilty of doing this. But the way mine is done is by sectors of the S&P. Which is slightly better maybe?
Leo Rodriguez
Matthew White
That's the issue. No one really knows. Student loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, and Americans in general are more cautious with credit card debt but throw all caution to the wind when it comes to cars, homes, and other assorted things that don't involve a rectangular plastic card.
I've heard it as the "everything bubble", because people are poorer and just diversified themselves into all sorts of trouble rather than just a house.
Carson Hernandez
It's our time to shine
Asher Morgan
Stock prices are determined by those institutions and individuals that do actively trade. The index buyers don't really set the price. If a company is shit, there is money to be made by shorting it or dealing in bearish derivatives, and so it will be done and the price will correct.
Maybe I'm wrong and indexes are a ticking time bomb, but I really don't think so.
Nolan Lee
Same shit. The internals are fucked. Weights are based on market cap, so you buy past winners. I see some outright ridiculous stuff when money flows to small cap indexes. You'll be left with some grade A in all of them. You can't replace market discipline with commoditized stock trading. f indexes are sold, there will be no bid at all for a lot of garbage.
Isaiah Morgan
no, its chinas time to shine
Owen Gonzalez
>check zeroshit everyday
>OMFG MARKETS GONNA BLOW ITS GONNA BE CIVIL WAR N SHIET
>never happens
fuck this shit nigga, I don't give a fuck about dumbass graphs anymore its all shit talk to scare people.
Julian Martin
Josiah Wright
I think it's going to be an everything bubble.
Just car loans alone is almost equal to the student loan debt (1.2 vs 1.4 trillion I believe)
Asher Lee
I love Trump.
But I love money even more.
Burn baby burn. Let the plebes panic, and I'll be waiting for them at the bottom, an oasis in a storm of misery. Let them sell low and unload all those equities right into my lap for pennies on the dollar.
Owen Peterson
Not really. You push up stuff that has no offers. So you have a ethanol factory for over $1B because nobody wants to offer this with waves of buying. Market markers really front run orders now. There is no value in trading individual names. The liquidity is too low for individual names. You can't do size in them.
Brandon Rodriguez
So what would be the solution besides doing active trading? Are there some institutions that do active trading like this?
Kevin Russell
>car loan you say?
Lots of leases too. Auto manufacturers have caught on to this and just pump out whatever they can to squeeze as much money as possible out of a lease. Quality of automobile has gone down significantly too, even if it does feel softer to the touch and give a little extra punch on the press of the throttle.
Nolan Watson
>mfw I'm all index funds.
Jeremiah Anderson
I don't know. I do very little stock picking. I mostly trade statistical boxes. There is no point in picking individual names, because it's either all good or all bad. I used to pick stocks, but shorting fucks you in this market. You can't have balanced portfolio. There is more money of just doing across the board quant trading. If things change I would start picking longs and shorts. Now it's all about money flow.
Wyatt Foster
Nope - Stocks and house prices go up forever, everyone and everything gets in more debt to pay off interest on previous debt.
It's the new normal.
Tyler Butler
I fucking love /biz/
Jackson Sanders
>positioning for the crash of 2018?
>benis exposed : check
>bottle of baby oil : check
>book on actual modern cannibals : check
>bag of charcoal & a grill : check
i was born ready
Daniel Nguyen
Lets meme this! Haha we can do this
Hunter Sullivan
>quant trading
So no hope for a brainlet like me :(
Eli Moore
Cant wait for the crash, actually.
I finally have money to invest
Jordan Ross
wow fellers who knew 5% growth day after day was unsustainable
Julian Clark
03.11 Podesta sealed indictments come unsealed.... is whai i heard. With aaaaall the others.
04.11 shoukd be the beginn of the storm...
Adam Johnson
In what ? Against what category precisely ?
Benjamin Reed
Go back to /biz/