Is music a viable career choice Sup Forums? Or is it just cuckary at its finest

Is music a viable career choice Sup Forums? Or is it just cuckary at its finest.

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Let it be a hobby user! But don't stop and drop everything to do it.

Well It honestly depends.
I'm learning piano at the moment, I'm interested in the idea of music as a score for film/television/games/commercials or any form of media really.
The thing about piano is that it's not like some faggy degenerate indie band. It's something that you can play around the house, play at some kind of gathering to impress some people, or just use whenever you like.
Really, just make music that isn't gay/hip-hop

Toured with big name bands before
>Alice Cooper
>megadeth
Make decent money from albums and work part time at a printing agency

It has been for me going on 40 years now.
(Yes...., I am that fucking old.)
I'm a Composer-Songwriter/Arranger of music for Film, TV & Theatre.
Never had a "straight gig" (real job) in my life.
That being said...., I am well aware that I have been extremely lucky & fortunate.
It's also all about having reasonable goals/expectations.
It's one thing to make a good living in the music business, but always remember that only 1 in 10 million "make it" as some kind of rock superstar or something.

music is one of the most annoying job markets you could get into next to media which is equal if not more annoying.

I still haven't decided which of the arts is the most annoying yet
but it's all annoying as fuck and prepare to be annoyed
all the time because that's what it is. annoying.
it's fun and all that but once you are on the other side at the venues you see the love
fade from the eyes of all those who work in these areas.
slowly but surely it becomes nothing more than a another job but at night.
the most woke of the professions in music is weddings.

Yes, but remember:
-Lots of Jews in that industry
-it is not about talent, but about who you know
-It is also about luck
-There is a lot of competition and drama
-You might have to do some regrettable stuff to become succesful.

how accurate is this

I liked it at first, but I'm really jaded on it now. I'm not sure what the next thing is but it'll be a more simple life away from the cities. I'll always still play though

Good for the soul but senseless if you are doing it for money, not to mention the result of it will be soulless. Art is truly rewarding, but be ready for a hard life that has been lived many times over.

Finished my first solo record last December, fucking cathartic, I'll tell you that. Not to mention that I'm almost all right with dying knowing I put myself out there, even if it will be forgotten, which it will. Onto the next record I suppose.

Thankfully I find a job with a music retailer, so I get to be around that stuff all day everyday while focusing on my writing.

Its extremely accurate, im 23 with 7 years of working sound for D-A list celebs, you basically get paid to party but it gets old and you never see your family, I worked with alot of amazing people but for every chill person you meet 20 of the most anoying pos you'll ever encounter.

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Only if you have talent and don't end up a strung out degenerate junk motherfucker.

Do it as a hobby, it's not a viable major/career even if you're insanely good.

Also the hearing damage night after night sucks alot

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If you have to ask that question, you are not a musician.

Stick to something else

>how accurate is this

Well...., that user certainly sounds a bit disappointed & burned out.
I suspect (though I don't know) that it might have something to do with what I said in my post about goals & expectations.
In that same vein & even though it sounds kinda depressing he's not wrong (and is being pretty humorous) when he wrapped up by saying:
> "the most woke of the professions in music is weddings"
But it really isn't as bad as that sounds.
Do you want to "make a living" or do you have aspirations of being a "superstar", user??

I did over 100 thousand dollars worth of drugs while I worked sound in clubs professionally. working in venues made me want a office job lol, now I'm a jr in college.

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>Maxrescuckfault

I’m a professional classical musician

If you want to seriously be a musician for a living, here is what you have to do

>teach private lessons, usually at multiple schools at the same time
>aim to get 40 students
>play in restaraunts
>sometimes weddings
>sometimes churches

Along with the cuckery above, I also record my compositions and book my own concerts at art galleries and theaters sometimes. Lately I’ve been nearly selling out the venues but I only make like $200 when everything is said and done at these concerts.

Also learn coding on the side as a backup and to make your own music websites.

My advice is to get a normal job and do music on the side.... unless you’re an extremely serious classical/jazz musician. Even then, it can get tough

This user pretty much gets it.
I'm this guy, btw.

Okay.., so I'm going to give anyone who cares food for thought based on my own **really OLD-fag's** experience.
(And I mean that literally.)
From the time I was 4 or 5 years old, I was always totally obsessed with music & became an early "ear player".
I grew up in the 1960's (early rock..., Beatles..., Grateful Dead..., etc.) & thus went through my period of dreaming of rock stardom. Played in lots of bands..., you get the idea.
Ultimately went to Berklee College in Boston, MA for my undergrad (got a BA in Music Composition-Class of 1976). While I was there I came to realize that, while I was definitely passionate about doing music, I had no interest in the "performance" (on stage) side of things.
Eventually I also got a MFA in Electronic Music, too (it was kind of the dawn of synths & samplers, etc.)..., but that's neither here nor there.
Anyway..., I made a whole lot of invaluable contacts when I was at Berklee (both Prof's & other students--Pat Metheny & Mike Stern were classmates, for example). This was a really good thing.
So the long & short of it is:
Since graduating..., & through those contacts..., I have managed to make a pretty good living composing/recording the musical scores for Film/TV/Theatre. Some people know me as "disneybro" because I also do a lot of stuff for Disney Channel/Hollywood Records..., mostly crappy "kid pop" songs.
Now..., I am not famous..., & I am not insanely wealthy..., but I do own a nice house in suburban NYC, managed to put two daughters through college without student loans, & I own my own studio in the City.
All while never, ever in my life having had a "straight gig" (real job).
So..., all in all..., I would deem the endeavor to be a success.
Hey..., it sure beats the hell out of "working for the man".
So..., my final sage advice to young music-fags:
Set realistic goals.

This guy get it. This is the destiny of most classical musicians. You will be poor and not recession proof if you go down this route.

just venting a bit but i have been in the circle and spoke with many. I just need to collaborate with people I trust mostly. Lots of swindling and usery.

Soundtracks are a lot of fun and most musicians
and actors are fun to talk to when everyones well rested.

My past is akin to sheen meets depp meets a bit of pollack so if i did get superstar status it'd be more of a headache than anything but then again it's literally just shitposting on tv.

it's very competitive, and the supply of music is always increasing while the demand seems to also be decreasing--especially of people willing to pay for it. Some people--I've met a few--have a natural gift for melody writing. It's like they are directly transcribing the music from God. Those people do very well at it. If you're young and handsome go be a dj. That's a lot of fun while it lasts, or have a special gift, or it will be tough. If you think you have a gift for something else, pursue that instead, even if you don't feel it's important. Do whatever you excel at. You will likely hate night life in your thirties, so also keep that into consideration.

I dj 3 nights a week, dunno if this counts
it's a pretty good job though

I was a pro musician for almost 20 years. It was fun, but if I could take it back & be normal I would. It's very hard to make money, but everyone thinks you live in a castle in Germany.
The girls are great though
Just focus on a regular career

Yeah I mean I really like the world of music, sort of.

Lots of surprisingly nice/interesting people in the classical world. I’ve met many of the legends and I’m friends with a few of them, most are surprisingly humble people.

I also love the art of classical music. I firmly believe that somebody needs to be making this music, because it’s one of the greatest achievements of western civilization and we need to keep pushing and exploring high-brow art. I was also surprised how many people are financially supportive of this, many people buy my albums. Even poor black people buy my albums, really kind of crazy.

But if you have a recession, you’re going to be sucking dick. I had a sales job during the recession and every musician I knew was doing all kinds of horrible garbage. Many were barely paying rent, including myself.

Also reminder, most of the legendary classical composers were fucking broke while they were alive

Yeah...., I get all that.
There's a reason that I opted for what is basically a "loner" and "one man show" aspect of the business.

Also...., I think that OP posted this thread and then bailed---lol.

Have fun dealing with openly retarded sjws everwhere

Yes. I'm listening to eeeeeeeeeeeee right now, as usual

Provide me with valuable supplemental material for learning please.

Yeah its the main reason I'm content with being out of the industry

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Also if any of you are in a classic rock act that tours or do sound for one theres a decent chance we've met before lol

No.

>be me
>37 years old
>played in bands since in was a teen
>none went anywhere
>absolutely nothing gained from it besides memories, (mostly bad ones involving bs drama with stupid bandmates) and a house cluttered with music equipment
>don't even talk to any of those people anymore

So much wasted time.
Its a gamble.
Good thing I always had a day job.

That's a pretty broad question, user.
Sort of like asking me for driving directions but not telling me where you are headed.
Start by reading this little "background" post:
Then get back to me with more specifics about your particular desired journey.

That pic is so true, user---lol.

When I first started out in the late 1970's I toured as part of the backup band for "The Platters" in one of those stupid "Classic Rock" tours of a bunch of old, washed up, one hit wonder acts from the 50's & 60's.
It was the worst gig of my entire life---lol.

Get a real job, faggot

And cut your fucking hair while you're at it

stay in the lab, don't leave the lab, the real world sucks and is frustrating life right?

being some pop divas mystery producer would be hilarious though. wearing a mask in public etc.
not changing a single aspect of my current life so
nobody knows. I think that's the only way I could
do mainstream. Reading "katy perry is back but where did these beats come from!?!" while laying prone on my bed shitposting on /x/ with a piece of shit car.

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>stay in the lab, don't leave the lab,

LMAO

In Production, yes. Being the musician is shit. Keep it as a hobby.

ah it resonates
/
how many theremins and moons do you have? lol

M O O G

producer here. its a joke.
1) do not waste your life doing "music" at university (dw, i didnt do this, im laughing at all the people i know who did, and wonder why the fuck they have trashed their lives)
2) money is in live shows, not music sales so this can be quite a effort, and events can go either way. you can either organise them yourselves, or rely on other people. both are risky.
3)equipment is fucking expensive. built 2 studios. what a fucking waste of money
4) just avoid music. go into the finance sector.

Viable career choice? Sure. Going to college for it? No.

Music is something that you get lucky with. Nobody cares if you went to college, they care if you sound good. You either make it big, or find the right contacts, in order to make it big.

Hehe.
No theremins---lol...., but I always kinda wanted one.
I do, in fact, have the original old MOOG Model D (aka "Minimoog") that I bought way back in 1977 that I still use sometimes.
Also an old ARP 2600 I picked up in the same time period...., but it's kind of a real pain in the ass to use & program----fucking patch cables for days---lol.

I wouldn't choose this path today desu...young bands driving to TO for a 'showcase'...no monies...
I've played in bands for decades now, and shit was better decades ago money wise, but playing 6 nights a week gets old fast...days are long and pretty boring in small towns with nothing but a bar...
I work a regular day job now, and play occassional gigs when they come up...
I do remember a buddy from years ago that I jammed with when we were young and just starting out...he got into classical guitar and is now a prof at OttawaU...

Are you referring to music production / sound engineering or actually being a musician? I’m considering studying the former for a degree choice, (Graphic Design wasn’t for me), and god knows that being a ‘session musician’ or playing in bands isn’t worth shit for a stable career.

If you can run a venue and sell alcohol, food, art, and entertainment then the money can be incredible.
In about a month, I am opening a large show space with 10 rent a room practice spaces and a bar AMA.
4000 rent.
4200 just from the rental rooms.
Between 8-20 shows a month with an occupancy close to 150.
Overpriced beer and snacks.

No, Bill Clinton killed the industry with one fell swoop of his pen.