Honest thoughts on MGTOW?
for selfish cowards
Straight up subversion. If you don't want to get married then don't. You don't have have to. MGTOWs are trying to convince others not to do it under any circumstances.
Men just need to be somewhat red pilled on women really. Because a lot of it used to be common sense. Then extreme counter-reactions like MGTOW wouldn't happen.
But common sense is "sexist". So feminist social engineering tried to eliminate it to try to make us all the same. Now males spaces are being eliminated. Even on the Internet. There's self-censorship everywhere. Men are becoming gossipy like women. It became hard to talk about these things honestly and share experiences and make certain important realizations. So a lot of men ended up terribly naive about women. They trusted the feminist narrative. And this leads to misery. And then stuff like MGTOW.
Jews-tier.
>being a sodomite
Hell is for ever!
I think it's just a Sup Forums meme that Sup Forums somehow convinced itself was an actual thing
I was told it wasn't a movement.
How is this not a movement? You have males telling other males what to do, while forming an identity around doing so.
This is a movement.
Cancel thread , bait
>also sage
It's basically the same thing as political lesbianism, but without the appropriation of gay culture, so it's only slightly better in that regard.
Just cring
Hilariously sad and pathetic.
But to be fair, I rarely ever have hassle with women.
I think women are alright.
Gay. NO MAAM was much bettet and ahead of its time.
Ressentiment
Good.
Feminism relies on white knights working for women, if men start living selfishly society will collapse and then traditionalism can be reborn.
Best way to live.
Freedom.
Money.
Happiness.
No restrictions.
Vegan-tier. Just one step away from shitlord atheists.
The future, along with irl waifus
Numbers don't lie. Quit being pussies.
the supreme MGTOW
Spbp
Natural selection at it's finest
Incels cant be MGTOW, retard
I decided to do my own thing independently when i hit my late 30's after 17 years of being in non stop relationships one after another with women that ultimately went nowhere, it just wore me down and i grew tired of it.
I'd never heard of the "movement" until more recently, I agree with some of what they say, but i have no desire to join a cause or shill for it or waste my time hating on women or crying like a baby about how unfair life is, it comes across as pathetic i think. There's no one path to happiness, your journey is your own.
Do people in MGTOW still aim to procreate, but they just refuse to get married?
Do you have any pressure from family or friends to get married and have children?
It’s a good movement, most western and even asian women are pozzed beyond belief. Only a fool would marry one in this day in age.
>Feminism relies on white knights working for women
I agree, you see white knights even with Sup Forums "related" circles. Men fawning over thots like Lauren Southern are part of the problem
A lot just use surrogacy for children
I do but I don't care what they think. It's my life.
they're gay
Imagine that somewhere right now there are actual people in real life thinking that MGTOW is real and not a big meme.
>high-speed internet
>digital cable
>giant hd smart tv with anything I want to watch
>gaming systems with life-like graphics
>cheap, abundant drugs
Gee, I don't know why anyone would rather spend their time with a wife and kids.
Imagine somewhere right now there are actual people in real life thinking Great Britain is not a meme country.
wow powerful!
Ah the daily MGTOW thread...
I went my own way about three or four years ago. I've had nothing but happiness since then. I now spend my money on me and my own interests and hobbies. I don't ask permission of anyone to go and do something. If I want a vacation, I take one. If i want to go fishing, I go. If I want to smoke a cigar and drink some whiskey? I do it. I'm not beholden to anyone.
The only thing I 'need' a woman for is sex, and that's easy enough to get with a few tinder swipes. I'm in my late 30s, and regularly get girls in their early 20s that love the older guy thing and perform like porn stars in bed.
Women are worthless outside of their vaginas. Their vaginas are good for two things: making babies and pleasuring me. Women have been told they can use their vaginas to try to control men. Men buy in to this too, because they've been told they will be denied access to women's vaginas unless they do as the woman says.
Forget it man. I don't need a woman to make myself happy. I go my own way.
Kike plot
Thanks for your input. I asked that user because I was wondering how much pressure was in a conservative, developing country like Croatia. But there seems to be a lot here.
There's a turbo-autist in one of my classes who won't shut up about "MIG TOE" and how his assburgers is just another sign that he is the future of masculinity.
It's honestly for scared betas. They realize women have high standards but don't want to do anything about it. You can bait at least a 7/10 provided that you:
>work out
>have a steady job
>aren't socially awkward
Don't wanna marry her? Don't have to. You'll get at least a year's worth of fun out of her then onto the next one. MGTOW even refuses to do that. Most of them are short, fat, socially retarded, and still live at home at mom's.
He pronounces it like mig-toe? Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I pronounce it like mig-tao. But then again I never really say it IRL.
>I don't ask permission of anyone to go and do something
You really fucking think you need to ask permission in a relationship?
>Cuckistani flag
Oooooooh
It took me the longest time to figure out what the fuck he was talking about, I assumed it was some special ed shit. Then he got caught by the professor changing his computer's name to GAAS(sic)THEKIKES and I finally put two and two together.
Comfy life is comfy
I've met too many men that have been chewed up and spit out by women, something needs to change.
Just another marker of the fast decline of Western Civilization. We're so fucked
>You really fucking think you need to ask permission in a relationship?
Yup. These 'men' all have to ask permission to do anything. If their wife doesn't approve of their activities, they will be punished in one way or another by their wives.
I'm not talking basic decency about saying "I'm not going to be home for supper" or anything like that. I'm talking about having to ask permission to ensure the wife approves of his activities the same way you'd tell your mom when you're 8 years old. Pathetic.
>don't reproduce and spread your genes goyim
what the fuck kind of idiot would honestly unironically fall for this shit
Even foreign men here get into it by calling their wives "the boss."
That's the problem with modern men. They're affraid to make their own decisions even though women are attracted to men who know what they want.
Jews really fucked western men.
Based. The future has no room for roasties.
Probably early 20's or inexperienced.
I know the type because all my male friends in their late 20's early 30's have been destroyed by a woman.
You can still see the hurt in their eyes when they talk about it.
Divorce laws need to be changed and femenism has to be destroyed, completely destroyed.
The only way to fix the system is to get enough men to stop giving attention and resources to women. We are living Sparta 2.0 and will collapse unless MGTOW accelerates much more soon. It's the only option men have left.
Wrong, alpha dogs get shit on too.
It's hormonal, childish people holding men hostage with white knight beurocrats and the law.
too extreme
Men need a set of rules for dealing with their women. Instead they don't know where their authority and responsibility begin.
One mate of mine calls his wife "SHMBO" She Who Must Be Obeyed."
Like are you fucking kidding me? Obeyed? Like a fucking dog shaking a paw with its master before being fed? No thanks.
"Modern men" you mean, Numales? I don't see it like that. These men have been taken hostage and know that they will suffer financial ruin and be denied access to their children if these women decide to divorce. They have no choice but to submit to her tyranny. They're prisoners.
This fucking loser makes MGTOW videos from the back of the 5th wheel trailer he lives in now because he lost it all to his ex. He's a loser because he lost, he lost everything. Now he's just a bitter misogynist who won't get over it, fixated in depression. Fuck him, don't be like this guy.
The only option men have is one of two things. First: marry young when you have nothing and build a happy life together with your wife. Constantly make it an "us" situation. It's not easy, and takes a lot of attention to detail and mutual respect. But it can pay off. Or just go your own way, build your own wealth and be an independent self sufficient man. When you're in your 40s/50s, all these divorced whores will gladly have sex with you because you have no "baggage." But never, under any circumstance, marry or co-habitate with any of them. Because you know exactly what they're about. Their own self interests and desires.
>Honest thoughts on MGTOW?
while i enjoy seeing bitches get put in their place and am sympathetic to the concept of equalizing family courts and other vaguely MRA-type concepts, I find MGTOW defeatist
>They have no choice but to submit to her tyranny
Bullshit. Those nu-makes were never able to be the alpha dog. I am still doing my own thing without asking female permission.
MGTOW fags are beta's.
What do you care? You are too low on the victim hierarchy to get gibs out of family wagecucks.
This may be the most nihilistic thing I've read today.
>Don't marry a woman and hate white children goy, all women are whores goy so why even try just sit at home, masturbate and play vidya.
If you support MGTOW you're Shabbo's Goy.
Can you give a clear definition of nihilism?
The state has usurped authority.
Make the wrong women cry and you'll get a nice squad car filled with armed white knights to take you away.
Get mad in front of a woman, just general anger you'd feel at something small just to see how she reacts.
A woman's biology will kick in and she'll fear for her life, even if you won't lay a finger on her.
A pissed off man might seem silly to you but a woman sees a homicidal monster.
You almost certainly require her permission for certain things, you just choose not to call it that. You probably call it something more benign sounding like "compromise" or "arrangement" but it's really just your will being frustrated by a woman.
I know far too many married men to fall for the rosy way you're painting marriage. In the end, married men put up with a lot more bullshit from their wives than single men would tolerate, and the reason isn't these high minded abstractions, it's testosterone imbalance. Women are vampires.
>Can you give a clear definition of nihilism?
Rejecting cultural values in favor of your own.
It's edgy and gay but I don't see how it is nihlistic
To be fair, domestic violence is still common in Hawaii, and the police aren't called because otherwise they would have to respond every day.
So all you got as an argument is a dissaproving tone and a buzzword. k
That's not nihilism. If that definition of nihilism were true, then stoics would be nihilists, but they're not.
He's rejecting all forms of cultural influence that is on him under the motto that since it is his life he answers to no one. Since he is doing so he is rejecting cultural values for his own.
You do understand MGTOW is literally the thing the kike strives for whites to believe right? The only way to fight the Jew is to start a family and help the collective culture learn to avoid his tricks.
>MGTOW fags are beta's.
I agree with this partially. I think a lot of beta faggots who are too low in SMV to get themselves the instagram thot they jerk off to. So they cling to this MGTOW idea to explain their failure.
Being aware of SMV is very important. A girl who is a six, can get a guy who's a seven any day she wants. A girl who's and eight can get guys who are tens with ease. So, as a male if you're a six? You need to work on becoming a seven, or all you will ever get are fives.
But these faggots are just lazy, and would rather sit on the couch playing video games and smoke weed than improve their SMV. When they can't get a girl, and they see these guys who are true MGTOWS, living happily and think they are like them too. When in reality they're just losers.
So many good goyim!
> Jewish media demonize MGTOWs
> Sup Forums calls MGTOW Jewish at the same time
welp
>Changing the subject/pattern to [some specific boogeyman will win] instead of adressing my comment
Who will teach us to avoid your tricks?
That's because they don't have any authority over anything other than the AIs in their video games.
>Jewish media demonize MGTOWs
nobody demonize you faggots
Yes, goy, accept only the cultural values society provides, like feminism.
They could take it back if they knew where the line was.
Gender realists. More redpilled about women than Sup Forums could dream of. Go ahead and marry and we‘ll see how that plays out for you.
oi vey
This shit is so fucking retarded. Mgtow is the weakest jewish psyops ever.
Neither do you.
You have no authority over any woman, and never will. You may think you do, but you'll be proven wrong the moment she decides to flex her pinky and the full force of the State falls on your ass and destroys you.
if he was MGTOW he wouldn't throw his life away because of cunts
YES GOY REPRODUCE HOW ARE WE GONNA PUT A GUN AT YOUR WIFE'S CHILD AND CRY WITH TEARS "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN" SO THAT WE FORCE YOU INTO THE FUTURE DRAFT FOR ISRAEL?
WHITE MAN IF YOU WANT TO PRESERVE YOUR HONOR THEN YOU HAVE TO:
>Leave the eternal white woman for dead. Dont help them, dont protect them, rob them if they have what you need and dont feel the slightest guilt for them, they were always your biggest enemy, act like it.
>Same goes for the eternal boomer
>Fuck the draft, fuck your country, fuck your goverment, fuck the west, you are nobody's dog to be sent to the slaughter in some rigged war like your cucked ancestors did when they killed each other
>Be the ultimate survivalist and rub it in everyone's face, hunt down everything in the new world that was against you in the old world.
REMEMBER MGTOW IS THE TRUE PATH FOR THE WHITE MAN
>he thinks he can false flag
lame
There's a sub on reddit for mgtow. It's a bunch of whinrey bitches in a circle jerk reinforcing the idea that finding a woman isn't worthwhile on the premise that woman are indeed a human on their own, makes choices on their own and that they themselves aren't capable of enjoying their life with a woman in it.
>israeli shills for drafting everywhere on Sup Forums.
>false flag take your chances in the jew courts
Sure thing kike
They're fucking faggots
>marry roastie
>she legally has you by the balls
>you fuck up in any way or if she simply gets bored she will divorce rape you
>lose your house
>lose your kids
>lose ass tons of assets
>lose ass tons of shekels
>Don't marry roasite
>get gf instead
>gf asks whens the marriage
>tell her you don't think its a good idea
>she has perfect excuse to walk out on you
You can't win unless you find a unicorn.
Pathetic. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
Honest? Are these MGTOW men honest? It seems to me they found the perfect excuse to not even try.
love it
Nope, none at all.
They just want me to be happy and successful and dont care about if i get married
good in concept as it is the only way to put women back in their place and remove them from power
but the community is mostly beta incels utilizing mental gymnastics to cope so not so good in practice
Cool, I'm glad for you. As I mentioned in I thought it might be like the parents in My Big Fat Greek Wedding ("get married, make babies, you look so... old!") but of course movies don't always show reality.
>>she has perfect excuse to walk out on you
But she doesn't get your shekels.
genetic dead ends that no one notices when they are alive and no one will remember after they are gone.
Their movement is just a huge circle jerk where they make eachother feel better about their bad decisions in life.
are there any gfs in here?