>somehow good at everything from the start >retarded, except when it's convenient for the plot for him to think up something uncharacteristically smart >has literally no emotions, completely unfazed by any trials/tribulations or the fact that there are people dying like flies around him and his best friend is a psychopath murderer >his motivations are super weak compared to Kurapika/Leorio who would both make much better protagonists
I just recently started this show and this fucking guy might be the worst shonen MC ever
Landon Morgan
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Lincoln Russell
there's a reason Killua consistently beats him in the popularity polls.
Juan Jenkins
Yeah he is about as bland as it gets. His special power is also hitting things hard in a manga that prides itself on unique abilities and strategic battles.
Cameron Ward
Anime was shit expect for the Chrollo arc, which was fun
Angel Rivera
no one likes HxH for its characters besides shotacon fags
Dylan Evans
>has literally no emotions, completely unfazed by any trials/tribulations or the fact that there are people dying like flies around him and his best friend is a psychopath murderer
He noted being terrified when he thought he had to fight Hisoka during the hunter's exam. In any case, he's really young and naive so he didn't understand what it meant for the worst case scenario to actually happen. That's why Kite's death was so devastating to him.
Liam Myers
>somehow good at everything from the start I wouldn't say he's good at everything, but his progression from one place to another was very smooth thanks to his simple-minded attitude.
Togashi creates loads of situations where Gon being dumb ends up allowing him to win. An example being the dodgeball game with Netero. Gon set himself the task of forcing Netero to use his right hand, and being the idiot he was, could've killed himself if he charged at Netero head-first.
Christopher Morgan
>His special power is also hitting things hard in a manga that prides itself on unique abilities and strategic battles. And since Jajanken was developed, Gon has been in 3 pretty good fights involving good strategy.
Charles Diaz
>people can't into force of nature protags
Jaxon Peterson
ITDS A DECONSTRUCTION THOUGH
Landon Morgan
Leorio should've been the protagonist and the story being about him being the normal guy of the group with no bullshit headstart giving him an unfair advantage over other nen rookies. (Gon's inherited all his bullshit talent and potential from Ging, Kurapika has his eyes that turn him into a specialist, and Killua and his assassin life experience.) Even without anything special about him he makes a name for himself becoming the world's greatest doctor who even does it for free.
Michael Perry
Why does the 2011 anime look so shit? Like the art and direction is so flat and boring to look at. The 1999 version died too soon.
Jaxon Johnson
Lazy nips.
Joseph Peterson
>somehow good at everything from the start Not really. He's naturally strong because of Ging genes, but other than that he hasn't got much going for him. >retarded, except when it's convenient for the plot for him to think up something uncharacteristically smart Not retarded, just simple minded. He's like Goku, instinctive and good at fighting from years of exposure to the wild, but not academic at all. >has literally no emotions, completely unfazed by any trials/tribulations or the fact that there are people dying like flies around him and his best friend is a psychopath murderer Like I said before, he's like a wild animal- the deaths of strangers don't do anything to him, only those he is close to. And anyway, aren't we all desensitized to death these days? When's the last time you cared when you saw a death on the news? >his motivations are super weak compared to Kurapika/Leorio who would both make much better protagonists I can kind of agree with this, but his wish to find his dad is never meant to be a compelling motive, it's just a device to move the plot along. It's actually a refreshing change to the "I wanna be the pirate ninja wizard president king!" shit we see in most shonen.
Gavin Morris
I agree with you but let's be honest most anime is like that these days- or worse. It's gonna be even worse as 3D takes over anime.
Ryder Rodriguez
Literally no one but retards claims this. It's a great shonen that happens to break or bend a few tropes but it is not a "deconstruction"
Parker Davis
>It's a great shonen
Nathaniel Nguyen
And idiots continue to reply to threads like this
Jordan Powell
Nobody said gon is a good mc, in fact he's generically bad, he only serve as a way to observe other interesting characters that are literally everybody except him, gon is a psychopath who'd let murderers get away when it only makes sense for killua to act that way.
Brandon Anderson
>Instead of hitting you really hard I might instead CUT you pretty hard, or hit you not that hard from a distance
Landon Edwards
>he's generically bad These series are made for kids, Gon is a kid. He's not shy around women, his entire point in the story is to act. They have Killua for the intellectual masturbation over what to do with life for the older people. If you saw some of the movies you'd understand that the writers think the same way, Gon is more of a monster than Killua is on purpose. Gon's the youth you left behind, Killua is who the older fans are, crying about everything Gon does is most of what Killua does these days anyways.
Isaiah Powell
because the kid is fucked up, do you want some moralfag messianic figure as mc? or just the normalfag mc that every other shonen has
Oliver Thompson
This reason even has a name, namely fujoshi
Leo Wright
Killua is clearly written for the 12 year old boys though.
Jack Gutierrez
gon isn't a psychopath
Daniel King
If Hunter x Hunter is a bad shonen then what the fuck is a good shonen? Shonen is probably one of the most boring, non original genres of anime and shows like HxH and FMA are rare gems in it. If HxH is bad then that makes most shonen complete trash by reference.
Ayden Perez
>being friendly with a bunch of serial killers sentenced to death multiple times >literally healed the bomber who killed many innocent people >done plenty of more stupid shit that i don't bother remembering
yeah it's clear his moral compass is beyond fucked up and he only care about his immediate entourage without thinking twice about consequences, he just threw his life on something stupid just for the heck of it, out of the cast, only kurapika and leorio are actually good and have good goals
Justin King
>HxH is bad => rest is shit >rest is shit >Therefore not (HxH is bad)
Sorry but this isn't a valid rule of inference
Ethan Stewart
>>somehow good at everything from the start >>retarded Well that didn't take long to contradict yourself.
Dominic Peterson
Wasn't revelead in the latest chapters that he's the grandchild of jesus christ or some shit like that, Naruto did it better honestly.
Carson Rivera
Kurapika is on notice. He willingly joined the mafia, even if it was to kill actual mass murderers. And although he wouldn't harm an innocent person, he's jaded enough to not object to torture.
So it's just Leorio that's on the straight and narrow.
Blake Brown
This. The psychopath meme is dumb. Gon can feel love, guilt, empathy, and so on. He's impulsive and can't handle strong emotions, sure, but that's just being a kid.
Nathaniel Barnes
I'm not really saying that. It's by my own standards. And obviously even then if the whole genre is shit comparatively it wouldn't make HxH good by default. I'm just saying I consider it to be the best in the genre, even if the genre overall isn't that good, but not only that, I just think it is a very good anime/manga in general.
But I am curious. If you think HxH is bad, then what shonen do you like? I've seen several and none to me have been as good, not even FMA.
Henry Harris
The sign of bad writing is when the character states how they feel out loud.
All this is bait and I actually like HxH, but jesus christ.
Jose Howard
>The sign of bad writing is when the character states how they feel out loud.
Chase Phillips
I like how Killua looked more creepy and closer to the manga in the 1999 version. They made him a bit too “cute” in the 2011 anime.
Andrew Cook
It's mafia against mafia, and he needed their info network to get to his goal, his nen literally works on a limited number of people, he's more redpilled and wouldn't save somebody who's stupid to put himself in a deadly situation, leorio is too innocent for everything related to hunters.
Jaxon Jenkins
I get you user but I’m just happy 2011 even looked that good for a 140+ episode project these days.
Adrian Evans
It seems to me people just grab whatever they vaguely remember from a Writing 101 class and pass themselves off like experts.
Jaxon Nelson
I'll call it "modus kekens"
Jordan Richardson
He’s just trying to act smart, don’t humiliate him about it.
Noah Wright
2011 character designs are more faithful, and they lean closer to togashis more recent art as they were adapting all off current hxh so they wanted the character designs to be consistent.
if you like 99 art thats fine but its not as faithful to the manga
Isaiah Brooks
>>somehow good at everything from the start bu throughout the entire anime it's obvious that gon is fucking low tier compared to most of the characters?
Kevin Young
That's not what I was implying though. First off, I don't consider either HxH or the shonen genre in general to be "shit", although I find HxH to stand way above most of them.
I'm saying that if HxH is bad, then most of the genre is complete trash by reference. That wouldn't make HxH good, it's just a visualization of how much I think HxH stands above most shonen.
Kevin Jones
To be honest I’ve only recently gotten into HxH so I’m basing my claim from the art of the earlier manga volumes.
Austin Morris
Shitposting aside, does anyone unironically Gon as actually retarded? unbelievably reckless and no good at following long winded explanations with unfamiliar terminology sure, but not some drooling brainlet tier.
Oliver Kelly
This is proof that BnHA is better than HxH.
Hunter Lee
He has his moments, but he really is a selfish and simple boy that can come up with mildly clever strategies on the fly. I kind of enjoy that about his character, he doesn't have godlike foresight and isn't some master planner. Hell, this stupid brat got one of his hands blown off just because of moronic pride. That, and the whole situation where he went completely overboard with Pitou.
If it weren't for Killua, he would have died a long time ago, and he's completely aware of that.
Dominic Cruz
BnHA is worse >pussy crybaby MC >only compelling character trait is lack of powers >"LOL EAT MY HAIR" >has ridiculously OP powers even more so than other classmates all of a sudden
>"B-But he can't control them" So what? It's still far better than grape head boy or tail boy and he ends up controlling them pretty fast anyway.
Jonathan Allen
Ging probably dropped him a lot as a baby.
Jaxon Jenkins
The flashes of introspection in the chapter when he went back to Whale Island might prove to be good for him.
Blake Moore
>somehow good at everything from the start The dude wins 3 fights throughout the entire series. One of which was against literal fodder.
It's a pretty consistent thing for Gon to get his ass kicked and lose
Nathaniel Diaz
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Nathan Roberts
>hunterfag in charge of arguments
Austin Brooks
it wasn't even about pride. the kid just makes exceedingly stupid sacrifices for seemingly little things.
Dylan Rivera
Hopefully, been waiting for some proper character development for Gon.
Sorry, memory is a little hazy for the show.
David Cooper
>didn't refute any of my points You BnHAutists are pathetic. If you could just admit that you like a garbage generic shonen then I could respect you, but you are so rabbid in defending it. At least counter my points, retard
Christian Ramirez
No, it's very specifically about pride. He detests being seen as weak by others and himself. The reason he was so pissed wasn't primarily because Kite died, it's because he couldn't do anything to stop it. Same goes for being willing to lose his arms to put a scare into Genthru
Kevin Perez
When was he retarded?
Adam Miller
I just found out that the bag that he's holding is made from the shirt of the guy that he pulled it out from. I was wondering if that was supposed to represent the pericardium or if was just ultra censorship on a human heart.
Christian Foster
was it pride that made him take the risk to lash out at nobunaga? or pride that made him infiltrate the zoldyck mansion among other seemingly stupid things he's done? the kid has always done stupid things for trivial reasons. it wasn't always about pride
Levi Sanders
That's an oversimplification. Eventually what triggered him wasn't pride but it was that ultimately he believed that he killed Kite due to his weakness
Noah Rogers
Poor direction.
Carson Wright
>was it pride that made him take the risk to lash out at nobunaga? That's not stupid and it makes sense for him to get pissed at murderers grieving for another murderer. This stems from lack of world experience as it's his first foray into the real world.
>or pride that made him infiltrate the zoldyck mansion. Might as well say that taking the Hunter Exam itself is stupid because of the very real risk of dying. There's a clear reason why he would want to get Killua back from his family by just looking at Illumi.
Neither of those things are trivial in any case. You'd have a better argument if you mentioned when he got put in a cast for 6 months during Heavens Arena.
Personally, I see that as hand in hand. It's just the general thought of being weak that perturbs him.
Cooper Young
>literally healed the bomber who killed many innocent people How is this psychopathic? It's more like pathologically altruistic.
There are many times where Gon has the opportunity to be sadistic, but isn't. For instance, look at the Gon vs Riehlvelt fight. Gon had the opportunity to shock him, but did not do it.
Gon's fault is that he's too kind and accepting, not being a psychopath.
Robert Hernandez
>strawman nitpicking are arguments >U DIDN'T REFUTE DEN, I WIN LOL
people would be more inclined to debate with you if you weren't a blatant shitposts you know
Christopher Lee
Nigger learn what psychopathy is
Henry Sullivan
If it's nitpicking it must be easy to refute- which just makes you more of a brainlet for not being able to refute them.
Liam Perry
exactly what i mentioned in the first post. he overreacts for the simplest shit. no one else except gon would have overreacted in that scenario, not even hothead leorio. what nobunaga said wasn't even something to get mad about. killua is the same as a spider. he's just a sheltered child
William Flores
>shonenfags actually have no concept of "show, don't tell"
I knew you were all emotionally stuntend manchildren, but jesus christ.
Parker Bailey
>posting 3DPD Dumb fuck
Zachary Reed
geg
Jaxson Ross
"Show don't tell" doesn't work with shonenfags because they cannot understand anything without an omniscient narrator to hold their hands through every panel telling them exactly what's going on. Even the simplest, most obvious shit, confuses the hell out of them if not blatantly spelled out.
Jace Ross
>"Show don't tell" doesn't work with shonenfags because they cannot understand anything without an omniscient narrator to hold their hands through every panel telling them exactly what's going on.
Hense why the CAarc is trash and everyone that uninorically enjoys it is a complete spoonfed brainlet.
Owen Rogers
I normally don't respond to shitposters but you should probably stop trying to tell people what to enjoy, the only one you'll make miserable is yourself because no one is gonna listen, just a thought.
Noah Gray
"Show, don't tell" is a meme concept wanked by retards who have no idea what they're talking about. Regardless of medium, time is an important thing to consider as well and if you show everything then I hope you like 3000 paged novels.
Jacob Smith
Meant for
Logan Kelly
>time is an important thing to consider Yes. Which is why showing you a single panel of a facial expression is better than telling you about a characters emotional state for an entire text filled page.
Christopher Collins
>not even hothead leorio now you're reaching
Brayden Ross
You sound like a faggot and if you were truly unbothered you wouldn't have responded in the first place.
Robert Perez
Gon > Goku > Luffy.
Samuel Clark
Why's Luffy so low?
Eli Roberts
You treat the tell like anathema because most people hear can't read.
Daniel Barnes
>and Killua and his assassin life experience he is twelve years old
Josiah Barnes
been killing since he was 5
Jose Foster
You treat show like anathema because most people here are too autistic to understand people's emotions or motivations based on their facial expressions and actions.
Hudson Torres
He is right tho.
Leo Brooks
Bungee Gum is the best Hatsu >100% Transmuter technique making full use of Hisoka's innate category with no waste >allows him to perform strong enhancer-level feats like catching Razor's ball >can mimic emission and manipulation >even if you know how it works, that doesn't really help you counter it >does not require restrictions or special conditions
Jason Gray
>still couldn't stick it to chrollo
Easton Diaz
Nice "no u". That doesn't work with a comic unless they are literal stick figures and the artist has zero grasp of drawing human expression.
Josiah Brooks
Riling people up is the last thing you can do well it seems, I'll give you that so your last bit of confidence isn't shattered.
Yes, user, I am bothered. Good job, you did it, you bothered me.
I hope you won't do the same to the people actually worried for you.
Grayson Cook
Well yeah, Hisoka may have the best individual hatsu but Chrollo has a whole collection of other ones.
Hisoka was dumb for letting Chrollo choose when and how they'd fight too. Didn't he once lecture Gon about how choosing the battlefield was part of a battle? I guess it was his pride or something.
Levi Cox
But he did.
Juan Davis
See that's what I'm talking about. There are Manipulators out there who do all this bullshit with conditions and devices just to be able to control a person. Hisoka can just put bungee gum on you and control you that way.
It's like he sat down and thought "what's the most versatile ability possible" and then created it.
Aiden Davis
The artists have a great grasp of drawing human expression, it's the autists reading who can't understand and interpret what they are seeing.
Adam Williams
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Daniel Campbell
So togashi kek
Samuel Torres
Wow, seven years of experience.
Evan Gutierrez
>5 years old kid killing people for a living This is why shonen is fucking trash