>Be Boris Yeltsin
>Visit American supermarket in Texas
>“Even the Politburo doesn’t have this choice. Not even Mr. Gorbachev,” he said.
>Yeltsin, then 58, “roamed the aisles of Randall’s nodding his head in amazement,”. He told his fellow Russians in his entourage that if their people, who often must wait in line for most goods, saw the conditions of U.S. supermarkets, “there would be a revolution.”
>About a year after the Russian leader left office, a Yeltsin biographer later wrote that on the plane ride to Yeltsin’s next destination, Miami, he was despondent. He couldn’t stop thinking about the plentiful food at the grocery store and what his countrymen had to subsist on in Russia.
>In Yeltsin’s own autobiography, he wrote about the experience at Randall’s, which shattered his view of communism, according to pundits. Two years later, he left the Communist Party and began making reforms to turn the economic tide in Russia. You can blame those frozen Jell-O Pudding pops.
>“When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people,” Yeltsin wrote. “That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”
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Why do people still defend communism in 2018?
Be Boris Yeltsin
Average soviet supermarket for comparison.
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Communism is Jewish
At least the common person wasn't fat.
>When your nation is taken down because of frozen pudding pops
All that malnutrition sure turned out some hot ass porn stars.
in b4 >not real communism
If you mean western people, it's because they're lazy as shit and they think that communism will provide them free gibs and will (magically, out of nowhere) pay for their gender studies degree, but in reality only those who had power had everything.
You fags always do that. It WASN'T real communism. That isn't even a pro-communist statement. It's empirical; true communism has never existed because it's fucking retarded and impossible. True communism has NO GOVERNMENT. There's no central authority in real communism. It was a fascist totalitarian socialism, but you intolerable cunts just keep demanding that "communism is bad because we already tried it and it doesn't work." It wouldn't work, but not due to historic examples. FACT: communism has never existed. Period.
That was the eugenics program user.
Well, I'm glad that so much selective breeding was geared towards making me shoot sperm out of my cock.
And then he let (((Oligarchs))) steal everything.
From '94 on he was permanently drunk/or he had some brain disease. He was a laughing stock from the mid 90s on.
It will never exist unless you force it, because Marx was a disgusting wretch who couldn't make sense of Hegel. It's already tragic how many lives and cultures this mistake has cost, please stop telling this awful joke.
>when your retarded communist pipe dream is so horrible it can't even be implemented before failing drastically
This, with a few caveats.
Communism has been TRIED, it's never been ACHIEVED (and like you said, it never will because it is retarded and impossible). They are therefore correct in saying communism is bad because we've "tried" it, they simply neglect to mention the fact that it never got off the ground.
>pic related
"Totalitarian socialism" is the correct term, the inclusion of "fascist" is incorrect.
nah they could have totally did communism differently and magically had unlimited jello pops because not enough non-whites or something
Communism did not create poverty, this is the other way around. Historically, Russian Empire has actually been a relatively poor country, agrarian, but with awful climate for agriculture. Excessive spending of the royal elites was based on extracting as much as possible from the peasants, which eventually pushed the country over the edge. Then, communist regime made a big deal of reducing and controlling how much the elites would spend. So, yes, Soviet elites were relatively poor, but not because of communism per se. The reasons are deeper.
BLYAT!!
Stop all liberals from breathing so they can't enact their commie bullshit here.
That's true, the only systems of governance that can exist are voluntary or mandated, mandated government exists though force and will do its best to remove your ability to fight back, before it was a suit of armour and a lifetime of training that allowed you to enforce yourself upon a population but now its a system millions strong that gives its many cogs and protectors little bits of the wealth it extracts from you. This is the only system that can exist in a tamed world, when there is no where to go, no new things to find, no escape from the system where you can regroup and fight back, you will always be under the thumb of the powerful and the children THEY have, the best hope yours have is to be a good little cog.
Voluntary systems of government only form when there are places where the great tendrils of existing governments are weakest that is why the free united states once existed and this is why they will never allow us to go to space.
Ask yourself why the space race ended? It did so for one simple reason, once you leave this planet, they cannot control you anymore, your destiny is in your own hands, they cannot abide slaves being set free.
Socialism was an experiment to control you, but it was a failure because it made its cogs less effective then they could otherwise be, turns out you need a little carrot to go with that stick THEY have that THEY DONT WANT US TO HAVE.
DONT LET THEM TAKE YOUR GUNS!
What joke? It's true. Nobody says it can work. Communism cannot work, and it's never been tried. It requires the will of the people, not the will of a conqueror who makes everybody pretend to be communist.
Not the first time this has happened, There's still debate on whether or not Nikita Khrushchev saw an American supermarket when he visited, but what happened to Lt. Belenko did occurr
>>how bad does it have to be to be impressed by a wall of cold cuts?
Moron. Read my post where I say it can't work and is retarded. You should have been aborted. Cunt.
Because capitalism oppresses workers
does russia have Walmarts these days?
I love that picture.. too bad Ruskies are still surfs to the oligarchs. Did all the best ones die at Leningrad?
Russians are the niggers of Europe.
>it requires the will of the people
No it requires the dissolution of human nature. I already read your post about how it's retarded (and I agree) but posts like this suggest that you're trying to wiggle your way out of that earlier statement.
Zippity zop, watching nations drop!
Then he gave all of Russia's assets to the oligarchs so that at least 100 people would eat well while the rest of them starved and said "See? Capitalism works!"
Guarantee you that 65% of the food in that picture was disposed of in a dumpster because no one came to buy it before it expired.
#BetterWorld.
Boris Yeltsin was a Clinton puppet. This shit was pure propaganda.
We had a Russian student stay for a few weeks in the 80s ... took the bloke to a supermarket and he literally broke down in tears because of all the choice...there was so much choice it literally blew his mind... a decade later he was through that Berlin wall when it came down pronto.
The irony is that Yeltsin was a drunken mess throughout his presidency and the 1990s were a disaster for Russia.
Between 1996 and 1999 when he resigned, it wasn't actually him running the country, but oligarchs and "advisers".
we throw away almost all our food. kek.
sick infographic, saved that shit
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That wasn't irony. It was by design. He was a Bush-Clinton crony.
All I want for Christmas is full communism NOW!
For communism to be tried, implementation by force cannot happen. Communism could only happen if the people, not a conqueror, implemented it on themselves. It is an impossible utopia where no one wants what others have, there is no greed, no corruption, utter devotion to the individual and the populace at once, effort exerted ALWAYS for the greater good... communism is impossible because people ARE greedy. That will never stop. The very second the first bullet was fired to get someone to comply with communism, it ceased to be communism. Communism can ONLY be implemented and regulated by the people. Every attempt at "communism" has historically been forced, hence IMMDIATELY not communism, even if every other factor was satisfied. BTW, there has never been any point in time where forceful implementation was the only differing factor.
>commissar jews oppressing the people become corporate jews who oppress the people
>people blame the existence of free enterprise rather than the (((international clique))) at the root of both systems (international socialism & international capitalism)
Reject the false dichotomy.
>too bad Ruskies are still surfs to the oligarchs.
That drunkard is a huge part of why Russia got taken over by Oligarchs in the first place
>heh heh heh
>goes out and date rapes 60 communists
It is rumored that Raisa Gorbechev once cried after a grocery store visit in the US with Nancy Reagan.
This is the Yeltsin I remember.
Yeltsin fucking ruined Russia.
Soviet agricultural production was comparable to American but their rates of spoilage and waste were super high due to inefficient transport and delivery failures.
Central planning sucks, sadly.
Now we too have supermarkets filled with food. Only had to go through a decade of near anarchy that killed off a few million people and let a bunch of thi.. entrepreneurs get their hands all the soviet property (with a little help from our new american friends). And now thanks to sanctions i cant even go buy my favorite cereal anymore. Thanks Obama!
kek
It really is difficult to grasp the absolute the backwardness that the Soviet Union was starting from
Yeah the transition from communism was a total disaster.
And why isn't fascist correct? It was a forced society. It wasn't Italian, but it was forced. Every aspect was controlled. That's fascism. That's what half of the faggots here want worldwide. We should allow a fascist continent and make them all move there to suffer from their own desires.
>Because capitalism oppresses workers
Into doing something useful with their pathetic pisspoor lives. Plenty of alcoholic nobodies under communism.
This meme is a really shitty metaphor, there has been way more than 18 rocket launches and it's really good we didn't scrap the program after a few failures because rocketery has proven invaluable
Putin saved Russia from the mess Yeltsin and the oligarchs made. He isn't perfect but fuck the 90's were bad for Russia
What? The will of the people in a communist sense is impossible BECAUSE of human nature. You're trying to create an argument where one isn't needed.
Who here is hungry for a pudding pop?
Do they still make them?
Haven't had them since I was a kid.
Frozen pudding pops, frankfurters with cheese in them, cookies in every imaginable shape and size... the very same gruesome display of capitalist excess that Bernie Sanders rails against ("Who really needs a hundred different types of bread?") is an unimaginable paradise to even the Great Leader at the top of his socialist pyramid scheme.
To say nothing of the health care, where in a capitalist country it's headline news if even the poorest hobo dies of an easily treatable infection in a hospital waiting room, like Great Leader Hugo Chavez did in the Cuban communist utopia.
>"communism could only happen if...."
>"it is an impossible utopia"
Stop doing this. It either "could happen" or it's impossible, you CANNOT have both statements be true. I understand the point you're trying to make with the rest of that post, but you ruin it with that "muh people could make it happen if they wanted it themselves" tripe. No they couldn't, people are unequal therefore "classes" will always exist as long as ANY people exist.
But this was Clinton era.
This was a visit and photo op arranged by the Clinton Administration.
WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU SHILL, OP
>Plenty of alcoholic nobodies under communism.
Not true, if you don't work you go to the gulag under communism unlike America
It wasn't real communism.
>coke
>diet coke
>diet vanilla coke
>diet vanilla cherry coke
>diet vanilla cherry coke without caffeine
>diet vanilla cherry coke without caffeine flavor or ben and jerrys
i love you america
>Why do people still defend communism in 2018?
>cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort
Might have had a different opinion if he knew how much of that shit is poison.
>taking boris fucking yeltsin's opinion as fact
>literally look at this
>le 70% private market economy is socialism
It's never existed for a reason, humans aren't robots and never will be unless forced
You aren't very good at understanding language, are you?
That's the point, asshole. I'm not shilling communism, I'm explaining EXACTLY why it's impossible and retarded. The requirements for communism to be communism are IMPOSSIBLE, which is why it's never, ever been a valid system of government in practice, and everyone who has historically called themselves communist is wrong.
Jesus fuck, you retarded mutt, read and understand things before you start barking loudly, saying THE SAME THINGS I'VE BEEN SAYING.
Fuck, you're dumb.
did the US engage in any trade embargos against commie countries in the 80s?
Because jews push for it
Which is exactly what I've been saying, but people keep arguing with me by repeating the same shit I've been saying right back to me like they're arguing.
My fucking sides
Yeltsin was so fucking popular among the Russian people that Communists and Nationalists/Fascists united against him.
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Amerilard brains will not understand this, but it happened.
The definition "fascism" is not "to be forced". You're just using the term as a pejorative here because you have no idea what fascism is.
>we should have a fascist continent
We tried, the kikes wouldn't let that happen.
You've completely missed the point of the metaphor you absolute tard. It has nothing to do with rocketry as a science (which is why it's not a "regular rocket"). The rocket in the example is a magical one that does things which are impossible. The experimental rockets are a placeholder for a process and the pre-launch failures are representative of how communism fails before it even starts.
Somebody should have driven the point home by pointing out that much of those goods would end up in the trash!!
I think Jello sells kits where you could make your own with the pudding mix. The original product has been off the shelves for years.
>ou've completely missed the point of the metaphor you absolute tard. It has nothing to do with rocketry as a science (which is why it's not a "regular rocket"). The rocket in the example is a magical one that does things which are impossible. The experimental rockets are a placeholder for a process and the pre-launch failures are representative of how communism fails before it even starts.
But rocketry is also the perfect example of something that had hundreds of failures before it worked, and something people believed was impossible. It really doesn't work as a metaphor for something impossible.
>i'm not shilling communism
Never said you were.
> I'm explaining EXACTLY why it's impossible and retarded.
You're also leaving a loophole (pic related).
>Fuck you're dumb
No, you are.
I have never met someone who drank vanilla coke who wasn't a borderline homo
so what is fascism exactly, I really am a brainlet
Nice BS story. Yeltsin, an incompetent drunkard, was a US plant to hand over the Soviet State companies to a Jewish oligarchy and thus by proxy the USA.
Now it's in the hands of Putin and his Jewish cronies. The history of Russia for the past 100 years is that of kikes and criminals and (((US))) subversion.
Underrated post. I keked.
There was a grain embargo enacted by Jimmy Carter in 1980 which was repealed by Reagan in 81. The red scare was still kind of a thing though during that decade.
Don't you mean "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism"?
Yeah I just saw them. Walmart has them. Though it is just a plastic tube and regular pudding boxes.
Communism works for the state, it just doesn't work for the people. Russia under capitalism isn't doing so much better than russia under communism many of the people who were alive during stalins years actually miss the soviet union.
I'm sure the people who owned large luxury houses and expensive cars miss communism a lot
Most of their diet consisted of bread or other cereals got from waiting in line
Dubya and Yeltsin would have made a great team. Buffoonish kike puppets both of them, too
Something like 80% of pensioners who actually lived during the soviet unions lifetime report regret of it's collapse.
>IT WAZNT REEEL CUMUNIZM
That would have been a comedy duo for the ages. Right up there with Laurel and Hardy.
That was quick.
i'm more curious about embargos against other countries that could have engaged in trade with the USSR
The lesson has to be re-learned over.
And over.
and over.
and over.
and over.
and over...
>shitheads on this thread still defending it
Kek
That picture is not saying in any way that rocketry is impossible, if you think it does you are a brainlet. It is saying that ONE specific rocket design (a placeholder "communism") is conceptually flawed and fails every time it is launched.