What's the most pretentious anime you've ever watched?

What's the most pretentious anime you've ever watched?

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you're favorite anime

Full Metal Alchemist

nisioisin

Fate stay night

define pretentious

Ergo Proxy. First few episodes were really promising with good animation and interesting setting but then it started going downhill and never stopped. Pure shit.

I was memed into watching Ergo Proxy and Texhnolize (similar, but not as pretentious) because they're supposedly really good, elitist animes, similar to Serial experiments Lain (which I enjoyed a lot). I sort of want to watch Kaiba but I'm pretty much certain it will be the same pretentious shit I got memed into watching the first two times.

>Ergo Proxy
>good animation
and I don't know, I liked it a lot, I find Lain a little more "pretentious" than Proxy, I like both but this seems to be subjective

>Doing something different is automatically pretentious

Kaiba isn't really pretentious, it's just boring and overrated as fuck.

Kara no Kyoukai. 10 minutes into the first episode and a character already starts making a 5 minutes monologue to another about how life has no meaning or something and that humans try to find purpose into silly things or something, while they were reading the newspaper. More time in, and the same character makes another pseudo intellectual monologue, again coming out of fucking no nowhere, and again, taking ages to finish.
Meanwhile, the rest of the episode consists of the MC walking around with a serious face and nothing happening.

Here pretentious is any anime that you are too dumb to understand.

It's basically about trying to make something that's superficial and basic look deep, intelligent and special, either through discourse, image or structure.
To understand what pretentiousness is, you just have to understand what pseudo intellectualism is.

I wouldn't say Lain was pretentious. All the things that happened, all the thinking and reasoning that was done caused her to do what she did in the end. It was essential and held purpose. It's somewhat like Madoka, the whole series are basically build-ups for that one moment.

Proxy (and Texhnolyze), however, were just roller coasters of random, aimless thoughts and motions, resulting in a trainwreck of an apocalypse as a proof creators didn't know where they were going since the destruction of characters and the setting was the only way to properly finish a story. At least Texhnolyze did this through nihilism, whereas Proxy went full Paulo Coelho with it's pseudo-philosophical narratives and gods.

Texhnolyze is show about confronting and making peace with the inevitability of death, there was nothing aimless about it.

>making peace with the inevitability of death
I wonder why nips are so obsessed with this theme.

>there was nothing aimless about it.
except the aimlessness of it.

Serial Experiments Lain

tatami galaxy

Monogatari and Madoka are the only shows I've watched where it feels like it thinks it's way smarter than it really is. I think it's just Shinbo though, Katanagatari doesn't feel pretentious at all.

Why does Lain makes an active effort to be convoluted and confusing as possible, when that added nothing to the overall theme of the show though? It had absolute no reason to make an effort to be confusing, when the plot itself, even without the structure, is already confusing itself.

Kaiba is 10/10 up to half of it, then you can drop it.

Monogatari is indeed pretentious as fuck, but why Madoka? You could call it edgy, but I don't feel like it's pretentious.

>Double Zeta
>Score: 10

Why are posting this? I'm not impressed.
>namefag
>pass
Nevermind, kill yourself.

it's bait, don't bother.

You are viewing thing's from Lain's perspective. Things are confusing for her. That's the whole point. You would be confused too if your whole life turns out to be a lie and the truth is something out of your ability to grasp.

It's been years since I saw Madoka but I just remember the show wanting me to feel something about a situation and being really obvious about it but not really getting the feeling across. My most recent memory of it is the sequel movie, so that might be clouding my opinion a bit.

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wtf, I love pretentious weebs now!

Well, a lot of Japanese narrative, especially anime, are sort of like that. They hamfist little girls or innocent characters into situations of despair and sadness, exaggerate the emotions and the situations to the maximum, and then expect you to feel super sad and broken about it.
Elfen Lied is basically what I described up to eleven, and so are most torture porn that were praised when they came out, like Madoka and Re Zero. When it comes to the anime community you can basically shit any sort of story about kids suffering, basic philosophy, misery or sadness, and everyone will eat it up like that was the second coming.

this is starting to feel outdated

what's more trendy now is quirky 3x3 stuff and retro anime

>monogatari
>pretentious
it's pure bantz, visual aesthetics and waifuwars. It isn't trying to be anything more.

Angel's Egg is pretty pretentious. I hate seeing Oshii say he doesn't know what it's about when that's a fucking lie.

Maybe "pretentious" wasn't the right word, but Angel's Egg tries to come off really smart and then divulges into Noah's Arc shit. Still a movie I like tho

>you can basically shit any sort of story about kids suffering, basic philosophy, misery or sadness, and everyone will eat it up like that was the second coming.
you called? (i liked it thoug)

There's countless scenes where characters will basically make monologues, usually out of nowhere like when Araragi mother talks with him for the first time, or most of the garbage Tsuki says, about humans do this, humans are like that. The meaning of existence, the meaning of your existence. Some Jung shit about each person having his own perspective. More pseudo intellectual garbage out of nowhere.

Tbf Tatami and Haibane don't belong on that list. Tatami isn't deep at all, it's actually straightforward as fuck and use a simple method to deliver its story (time rewind). Haibane is just comfy.

The rest I'm not interested to argue with, but yeah you're pretty much a retard if you think Tatami or Haibane are pretentious.

Yeah, SOME parts of monogatari fall into the pretentious side. Like Nise... people try to tell me how deep Nise is and I just roll my eyes.

The real pseudo-intellectual Nisio Isin work is Zaregoto. The main character goes on some crazy rants throughout it about being a human that, granted, I like, but it's pretty hamfisted and fake deep

I don't think you understand why it's there. It isn't here to be meaningfull or to deliver some message. It's just batz. People talking for the sake of talking. Don't try to regard it as something it isn't trying to do in the first place.

Majority of the nips are irreligious.So I guess this is their way of trying to make sense of livng without degenerating into hedonism & nihilism.

While some of these work for being 'pretentious,' this pic just comes off as somebody roasting fag 3x3 threads where everyone has their 'superior taste.' That being said, Remnei, Tatami Galaxy and Monster aren't really that pretentious. A real pretentious show would just be Elfen Lied, which tries to be so much more than it is. Monster is just a cat and mouse mystery about the worst human alive and the kindest doctor ever. It may have deeper moments, but calling it 'pretentious'...?

You're better than that

Diary of tortov roddle

>the presence of monologues mean it's automatically pretentious

that's a bait meme image, user. Even the caption was changed into something else when "pretentious anime elitist starter pack" caption failed to infuriate elitists.

That empty egg belief vs. scepticism bullshit, forgot the name but the visual was nice

The non-shitpost answer to this question is and will always be Limit Cycle from Genius Party, nothing will ever reach that level of pretentiousness ever again in anime history

>I unironically use pretentious to criticize chinese cartoons

It's twitter bait, I feel kind of bad that you actually put the effort into responding to that

please only use slojaks to post about moobies

>198 completed
>tripfag
>pass
>actual shit taste
this is a great bait

To me, an author trying to dump basic philosophy on my face, basically using a character as his mouthpiece, without context and coming out of nowhere, is the very definition of pretentiousness. It's not just natural or silly banter, it's clearly trying to be more than that in the cases I mentioned.
Not to mention all the fan service being shown through weird cuts, unusual shots and with a bunch of messages on the screen in between. The fanservice in Monogatari always gave me impression it was trying to be like more than just masturbatory fuel.
Monologues themselves aren't the problem, the problem is how and where they are delivered. In the case of Monogatari, a mother greeting his son with a pseudo intellectual monologue in the middle of the morning is just the very definition of nonsensical and pretentious.

They didn't have any actual 'hipster cred' but Madoka, Monogatari and Hyouka are the standout examples of anime that really wanted to be smart and artistically valid but just came across as being really contrived and awkward instead.

I feel like that was the vibe for a lot of the early 2010s anime when KyoAni and SHAFT were battling it out, I'm glad we're over that era now.

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man I wish there was a Sup Forums version

Recently Classroom of the Elite.
>Characters treat what can be basically summed up as 'Lel lets put a camera here and scare'em','Lets tell the teacher that he beat me up.That ought ot work Lel',etc... as some grand elaborate plan
>This is all shown as if they are some kind yakuza group when they are all school kids
>Over the top rivalry between classes to the point its funny
>Supposedly 'School for elite kids' with absolutely useless teachers
>MC is literally Oregairu's Hachiman without any of his redemable features

>Hyouka
I think it's more like the fans that are pretentious than the show itself.

a more recent example would be Re:Creators, mumbled on a lot concepts, but never explained them properly and the amount of infodumps was some serious shit, it never knew what the fuck it wanted to be

How this thread went until this point without Mawaru Penguindrum? That show looks like it was made by someone in the middle of his art degree.

All of the Monogatari's. Most thing by shaft are pretentious as hell though.

Your favorite show

jojo and every monogatari anime

2003 Kino.
What's the deal with the scanlines and the random messages in the middle, whoa re you trying to impess?
Still loved it though.

The scanlines are what make 2003 Kino kino
The new one is actively worse for not having them

Relevant

>is actively worse
>actively

>normie

What are you trying to say?

It's "normalfag" or nothing. Anyone who uses normie should kill themselves. The fact you aren't even aware of that leads me to believe you don't belong on Sup Forums.

>thinking that normalfags and normies are the same thing
>having the gall to say: "you don't belong on Sup Forums"

What's it like being too stupid for Sup Forums?

>wojakposting
you're not helping yourself mate

>wojackshit
>pathetic attempt at damage controlling
Not helping your case.

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>muh appeal to purity without actually knowing jack shit about what you're saying

Fuck off.

penguindrum. Also shit.

>having the gall to say: "you don't belong on Sup Forums"
First day here, champ?

>defending use of normie
>defending wojakposting
I'll say it again. Kill yourself.

normie is a /r9k/ term, it has no place being used on Sup Forums
>muh purity
fuck off, if it wasn't for the hostility to outsiders this place would be Sup Forums or worse yet, Sup Forums tier

Evangelion

"Normalfag" is and has always been people on Sup Forums (note the "-fag") who are easily offended or disgusted. "Normie" is people like your parents. They have never referred to the same people.

Koe no Katachi.

Fuck right off with the symbolism.

-fag is also used for people in general, regardless if they post in here or not

Welcome to your first week on Sup Forums.

normie is the normalfag friendly term your kind uses outside here to not harm the feefees of literal faggots

Because they literally have no pillar to lean themselves on.

Why am I not surprised that you would join the retarded purity circlejerk too?

i watched all the anime in here but i also watch shounen and moeshit, what am i?

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FLCL

pretty good making me sleep tho

Your favourite anime.

Ghost in the Shell 2. It is beautiful and atmospheric but the dialogue should been toned down a lot. Detectives quoting obscure philosophy just felt wanktastic at times.
I respected Psychopass for doing similar things but actually paying attention to how well read the characters might be when they were discussing things. It was a nice touch.

Melodramatic is the word you are looking for in that case, which is even though I like Madoka is a fair criticism to make of the show.

this is the oldest Sup Forums file I have saved, faggot

Durararara
Takes itself way too seriously.

> 2008-03-05 21:53:46

What a newfag.

This defense is the equivalent of claiming all of your interests are ironic because you're afraid of being made fun of for them.

what i dont get about kaiba is how it shows you a really bleak "cute looking but grim" world with some unnecessarily cruel moments (when that old lady died and her husband had to look at her memories of cheating him) and then going for an ending where everyone works together to save the world. i mean nothing about that setting seemed worth saving

This thread is full of low quality baiting, and no actually pretentious shows.

>Limit cycle, from genius party
This shit is the most pretentious garbage you'll ever see.

Same. Watched 2 episodes then had to drop it.