Alot of right wingers on Sup Forums, hate Islam, and that's understandable. It's a violent religion and a stupid ideology, as are most religions. But before you use the fact that the middle east is a war-torn shithole, to prove the inferiority of their culture, just know that it wasn't like that before the height of the cold war. this is Iran in the 1950s.
Alot of right wingers on Sup Forums, hate Islam, and that's understandable...
Bentley Morris
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Noah Green
it was our fault.
iran, afghanistan, pakistan, etc. would have been so much better if we didn't fuck it up.
David Cruz
this is also Iran in 1950.
Nathaniel Cox
Yeah, America literally trained and funded the Taliban in order to fight a proxy war against the Soviets.
Jack Clark
Nolan Edwards
Luke Thomas
Wyatt Martin
Right wingers are violent and stupid though
Cooper Walker
Most of the people in these types of images are wealthy or upper-middle class people. This was same throughout the world. Even today the rich people in middle-east act like westerners. But the majority of people in most of these countries are pretty conservative and religious.
Benjamin Howard
shah of Iran was a CIA plant dipshit when people found out they went full religious
Adrian Scott
But you're trying to show to Sup Forums posters that Middle Eastern culture is inferior. The pictures you posted are not only of the elites/upper class but they're images of Western lifestyles.
Showing people being Westaboos doesn't show that the local cultures are good.
Jacob Young
That's true, the upper classes were more western, but after Islamic revolutions and sharia law being established, not even the elite can have progressive values. America essentially stopped any kind of progress in the middle east with it's proxy wars.
Asher Scott
The revolution in '79 created the vile strain of islamism we have today, also arming the mujahideen probably didn't help.
Ayden Gonzalez
The CIA destroyed all of the middle eastern democracies and fomented an endless string of wars. They have every right to be pissed at us. They aren't stupid either they know it was the JEWS who were behind it all.
Holy fuck are most of you brainlets. How did you not all know this? It's not even a fucking conspiracy it's all out in the open history you can read on fucking Wikipedia.
Evan Johnson
Iran during the 50's was a secular society it was Islam that fucked it up.
Parker Hall
Local cultures everywhere are not good. What we call western culture is really just enlightenment culture, it isn't the authentic traditionalist cultures of Europe. It's not European culture that's superior, it's modern enlightenment culture.
Bentley Gomez
Iranians are largely indo-european. There's your answer.
Jaxon Kelly
>middle eastern democracies
I'll take things that never existed for $500, Alex.
Brandon Fisher
Yeah, secular Iran, the kind of Iran that didn't pay too much attention to hardline Islamism.
Adrian Russell
>>The CIA destroyed all of the middle eastern democracie
You're an idiot. There was no such thing as a middle eastern democracy. That region is incompatible with democracy. Mossadegh is a meme. He tried to become a dictator before the CIA coup. Of course, if Iran was a democracy, it wouldn't necessarily have prevented a CIA coup but the facts are facts: Iran was not a democracy.
You cannot expect 3000+ years of autocracy in a region with few countries based on a single ethnicity to suddenly produce democracy.
>Local cultures everywhere are not good.
BWAHAHAHA. This is how I know you're a filthy shitskin. Go to Italy, Denmark, Holland, France and look at the native cultures there in rural areas. They are different from urban cultures and yet they are also civilized.
The Englightenment was not the beginning of the West. You should take a history lesson and read about things like the Renaissance. I know as a shitskin that it's going to make you shake in fear seeing things so grandiose but it is education.
European culture being civilized didn't start with the Enlightenment.
Anthony Sullivan
No it didn't you stupid moron
Iran isn't salafist
Mason Miller
Salafists existed before 1979 but they didn't start blowing themselves up killing Westerners until the revolution in 1979 happened.
The Iranian clerics aren't stupid. They don't use their own people to commit terror. They use people of other nations. Some more directly when they are Shia and when it's part to be of the "axis of resistance". Other times they order things more indirectly, through proxies of proxies.
Of course, a brainlet like you can't understand the strategy of Iranian leaders. Middle Easterners of like the Jews and Persians are good at manipulating others.
Dylan Perez
This pic is from the 70s
This is clearly some time in the 60s
Adam Wilson
>until the revolution in 1979 happened.
WEWWW, I JUST FOUND THE KIKE SHILL.
Angel Bell
European civilization began in the classical age. Although nothing much went on between then and the Renaissance. They built some impressive cathedrals during the middle ages but not much else. European culture during the dark ages dwarfed, the cultures of China or the middle east, during the same time.
Carson Campbell
>America is the cause of all of the world's problems.
kys you jealous faggots
Brody Long
that's alright
kill those sandniggers anyway
Lucas Rogers
>kikes are the only one who know history
No wonder why whites have been getting fucked. This level of anti white propaganda from shitskins is the cause.
>Although nothing much went on between then and the Renaissance. They built some impressive cathedrals during the middle ages but not much else. European culture during the dark ages dwarfed,
Oh look, it's a shitskin pushing for the Dark age meme.
Liam Kelly
>This level of anti white propaganda from shitskins is the cause.
You meant to say the 1982 invasion of Lebanon by Israel, not the 1979 revolution. Fucking kike.
Brody Morris
>IT'S THOSE EVIL WASPS CREATING TECH AND ADVANCING SCIENCE THAT'S THE PROBLEM
>fuck wypipo
They are lucky that our tolerance is bigger than their hatred and barbarianism. Maybe it's because whites have a more developed frontal brain.
David Green
You're a retard. Iranaboos are embarrassing but you're lying if you think our Cold War meddling had no effect on their trajectory.
Kayden Brown
Post ww2, it absolutely is.
Jaxson Davis
>shitskins going to war against shitskins is the cause of modern terrorism
You're not making any sense, you dimwit. Kikes have been invading their sandnigger cousins for decades before the invasion of Lebanon. Iran going from secular to cleric rule is something new.
Matthew Wood
>You're not making any sense, you dimwit. Kikes have been invading their sandnigger cousins for decades before the invasion of Lebanon.
First time they invaded Lebanon which was closer to Syria's doorstep. Remind me again when the first suicide bombing happened and what the context was. That's what I thought kike. BTFO
>muh shitskin
>spends hours everyday trying to get a tan to look like a shitskin
Leo Bailey
Bullshit. Korea got affected a lot by America in both positive and negative ways. Why is it developed nation? It became one in a matter of decades back when it was just a land of shit eating farmers.
The simple answer is better culture and a race that's more compatible with modern civilization. It's why Koreans who lived in subsaharan African conditions became a modern developed country and why middle Easterners and Africans have not. The problem isn't necessarily Americans fucking people over as the Koreans got fucked by the US as well in some instances.
Or take for example Japan. They got NUKED by the Americans twice and were occupied. Their cultures was completely shat on (americans tried to replace the Kanji with latin alphabet) and they were completely humiliated. Till this day American soldiers are raping Japanese women in places like Okinawa. Yet Japan is a developed country. Why? Race.
Look at China. They got fucked by 8 nations, including Russia, Britain and the United states. They then got raped by the Japanese and got fucked by a shitty Western ideology called communism. And now China isn't so bad, especially in the Eastern coasts.
Race and culture matters. Not the "evil whites" fucking other over. Whites themselves got fucked by nonwhites and other whites. It didn't stop civilization from happening.
>First time they invaded Lebanon which was closer to Syria's doorstep. Remind me again when the first suicide bombing happened and what the context was.
Israel invaded Egypt and Syria as well before 1982. Where were the suicide bombings and the terrorism there?
1982 happened after the revolution of 1979. The Islamism was weaponized and allowed to suicide bombing.
>BTFO
A shitskin like you can't BTFO. You're intellectually inferior.
>spends hours everyday trying to get a tan to look like a shitskin
Middle Easterners look like niggers when they get a tan. Whites can easily go back to their nice pale looking skin.
Oliver Johnson
What the shit are you talking about you illiterate fucking morons, not only was the Shah the primary westernizing force- not the guy the CIA got rid of- but that guy was also in league with the Soviets and he was a major sympathizer with Shiite extremist groups later involved in the overthrow of the Shah's government.
Do you people unironically come to Sup Forums and spew socialist propaganda about muh based soviet-aligned iranian prime minister? Really faggots?
>when user is retarded
The Mujihideen of afghanistan that fought the soviets was a different group, the taliban came in during the 1990s you dumb fucks
Josiah Thompson
This. Whites prevented Iran from becoming a socialist shithole. At least with the Shah they were progressing.
Hudson Reed
>Israel invaded Egypt and Syria as well before 1982. Where were the suicide bombings and the terrorism there?
They simply used their own military to fight. What are you a fucking retard? During the invasion of Lebanon they had to use proxies which is how Hezbollah was created.
>1982 happened after the revolution of 1979.
Yeah and the suicide bombings happened after 1982 you brainlet.
>A shitskin like you can't BTFO. You're intellectually inferior.
Probably more white than you mutt.
Austin Thompson
Iranians are white
Owen Taylor
This started out as an intelligent thread, but devolved into a bunch of degenerate retards calling each other shitskins and kikes.
Jack Walker
>They simply used their own military to fight. What are you a fucking retard? During the invasion of Lebanon they had to use proxies which is how Hezbollah was created.
You're a subhuman idiot. Israel used proxies in Lebanon before 1982. Ever since the beginning of the civil war, Israel supported the Christians (Maronites) in Lebanon who wanted a right wing government against the leftists proxies who were supporting the Palestinian refugees and militants.
>They simply used their own military to fight.
Israel did just that when invading Egypt and Syria. In fact, there was lots of accusation by the Syrians that Israel was using the Jews of Syria as proxies as well. Yet there were no suicide bombings.
>Yeah and the suicide bombings happened after 1982
You're incapable of understanding patterns and uniqueness of patterns to differ from others. Your inability to understand those things is a characteristic of low IQ subhumans.
Suicide bombings happened after 1979 and before 1982. Source: en.wikipedia.org
>Probably more white than you mutt.
A shitskin like you dreams of being white but can't. You're too dumb to even act like a white. At least kikes are smart enough not to blow their cover too quickly. You tried to insult whites getting a tan, which outed you as a nonwhite.
As "white" as Jews. It's a shapeshifting ability that lets them subvert. People should be careful.
Colton Sanders
> be a democratic counry
> America comes knocking and wants oil
> president tell them to fuck off
> Gets taken out
> America props up shah puppet
> Shah gets overhtrown
> Islamic Republic of Iran
> Many Iranians regard Mosaddegh as the leading champion of secular democracy and resistance to foreign domination in Iran's modern history. Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup on 19 August 1953, organised and carried out by the CIA at the request of MI6, which chose Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Mosaddegh.[10]
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Iran is such a beautiful country today. This tend to happen when the west start to meddle in the middle east, and some idiots wonder why they hate puppet America and have no problems telling you about the JQ.
Levi Hughes
Islam is the open worship of satan.
They symbols of Islam are the symbols of the beast empire.
Justin Brown
Mossadegh was appealing to socialists and he tried to become a dictator before the CIA coup.
>Iran is such a beautiful country today.
How is throwing acid on women a beautiful thing? Show your flag, shitskin.
>. This tend to happen when the west start to meddle in the middle east
America meddle in the Korean peninsula and yet there is a developed nation there. America meddled with Japan and that country isn't doing so bad.
Oliver White
America funded Islamist terrorist in Iran and I am not talking about Khomeini, I am talking about Fadayan e Eslam.
>The CIA also helped to mobilise militants of the Fadayan-e-Islam in these demonstrations; it is not known if Britain also did. The Fadayan’s founder and leader, Navab Safavi, is believed to have had associations at the time with Ruhollah Khomeini, a Shia cleric and scholar based at the shrine city of Qom. According to Iranian officials, Khomeini, then a follower of Kashani, was among the MI6/CIA-sponsored crowd protesting against Musaddiq in 1953. Fadayan-e-Islam’s members would act as the foot soldiers of the Islamic revolution of 1979, helping to implement the wholesale introduction of Islamic law in Iran.
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William Long
>the grand shiite plan is to arm salafists who hate shiites
Charles Cooper
And yet nowhere does that say America funded the islamic revolution to create a country hostile to america, you retarded iranian faggot
And mossadegh was a soviet sympathizer, why do third worlders have this weird belief they're in the right with trying to bring worldwide communism?
Austin Moore
The difference between Korea and japan, and the middle east is that America actively fought wars in those regions, not just proxy wars, and later invested alot of funding into rebuilding those regions after the war.
Hunter Torres
They're all talmudics annon.
>Shiites are the inheritors of Talmudic Pharisaism and the Israelite Exhilarch through the last Babylonian Exhilarch's daughter and grandson
>Sunni are Sadducees who fled Palestine for Arabia. Mohammad was a Sadducee.
>"Jews" are the other half of the Babylonian Pharisees and the Exhilarch who fled North into the Caucuses.
Jews, Sunni, Shiites? They're all the same fucking thing. Satanic worshipers of Allah/Baal/Moloch/Nimrod.
Aiden Russell
This. OP is trying to make a point about Islam being ok.
Everyone completely misses the point. Yes, there was a greed for Oil. Iran got screwed, we know the history. But what screwed Iran?
What messed it up?
Islam took over.
Samuel Davis
>just know that it wasn't like that before the height of the cold war. this is Iran in the 1950s.
TOTALLY NOT TAKEN FROM TOURISM ADS FROM THE SAME PERIOD.
TOTALLY.
TOTALLY.
Samuel King
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There was a german comedy sketch on the effects of US intervention
That being said, all these countries were not better because they were islamic, but because they were getting less islamic, then there was an islamic resurgence.
Charles Wilson
I hate to be a grammar Nazi, I really do... but A LOT is 2 goddamn words - you fucking faggot idiot. Get it through your fucking head. How hard is it? And you fucking lead off with it. Fix yourself or kill yourself, OP.
Christian Ward
nice projection, faggot
Evan Miller
Action : Whenever you see an article / tweet / post on normie media that makes you want to sperg out, but you can't act for fear of revealing your power level, simply reply with the following statement :
>"Thanks for pushing normal people even further to the right."
If they try to start an argument, simply keep repeating :
>"As I said, thanks for pushing normal people even further to the right."
to whatever arguments they try to make.
Whenever you see the comment, upvote / like it.
Goals :
- Demoralization. Make them realize that every action they take is counterproductive.
- Subtly imply to bystanders that 'ordinary' people are already right wing. Remember, the major social currency among normies is conformity. If they believe that everybody else is moving right, so will they.
- Point out that the rise of the right is a consequence of the actions & voices of the left.
- Show 'the left' and the normies that we are everywhere, and that we are watching. Again, this plays into the normie desire to 'fit in'.
- Embolden those who are already on the right but are kept silent by fear of social repercussions (see previous point).
- The comment is polite and violates no 'guidelines'. They can't shut it down.
- Short comments are more likely to be read, often more so than the actual article / post / story.
- Create an atmosphere that discourages leftists to post in the first place.
This is solid enough that you could even post it on real accounts. If you ever have to walk it back just say “I AM a leftist myself. It was sarcasm. I meant that stuff like that damages OUR cause.” Even then, the statement has value as a divide and conquer strategy (ie. “a real leftist doesn’t believe that stuff”).
It doesn't matter whether you believe any of the above or not - the purpose is to make *them* believe it.
Discuss.
Ignore divide & conquer shills and demoralization shills (anybody who ‘dismisses’ the plan without providing genuine criticism is a shill.)
Charles Jenkins
yeah we know that, you retard, but apparently you just found out.
Levi Harris
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Cooper Price
not all problems just the most important ones
Hudson Cruz
My point isn't that Islam is good, it's that the violence of Islamic fundamentalism didn't always characterize the middle east.
Nicholas Hall
Yeah dude, look at the picture and you'll see WHY they were civilized back then. They adopted western culture, which is the greatest culture of the world to date. Prove me wrong
Jordan Watson
That is Iran under Prime minister Mohammed Mossadegh, who was head of a democratically elected government at the time. That was the best Iran, until that cia stooge, The Shah took power in a CIA led coup that he was complicit in.
Samuel Thompson
In every culture there are degenerates.
But if I could choose between a right wing criminal or a nigger, muslim or mexican criminal, I would choose a right wing criminal everytime.
Even a right wing criminal has more smarts and some kind of honor than the average non-white.
Isaac Gray
>>>with the Shah they were progressing.
He deliberately encouraged religious persecution of Iranians who followed the Ba'hai faith.
Many of them took refuge here in this country.
Angel King
All traditional cultures suck. What makes western culture superior is it's modern, enlightenment values, that arose in the last 200 years. These include liberty, democracy, equality and natural rights. Before the enlightenment Europe had a more primitive traditionalist culture.
Liam Peterson
>They use people of other nations. Some more directly when they are Shia and when it's part to be of the "axis of resistance". Other times they order things more indirectly, through proxies of proxies.
So basically they doing the same thing the US's CIA and UK's MI5/6 has been doing since the 50s
Chase Nelson
>as are most religions
You are such a fucking cucked faggot pussy.
Ian Richardson
And you're a dumbfuck if you actually believe in old fairy tails.
Austin Wilson
take a selfie, I wanna see if you're white
Jaxson White
Islam is fine for THEM.
But it isn't OURS.
We have a tradition that is connected to our old gods and traditions, and that is Christianity.
It is a pan-European religion that enjoys legitimacy in every White nation.
It was the first pan-European ideology, stretching farther than the Roman Empire ever dreamed of.
Islam can go live in peace OVER THERE.
We have our own tradition, and it needs to be fully restored as a European faith like it was originally intended.
Brandon Hughes
>1950s
>before the cold war