Sup Forums communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Fuck off Spaniard.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" XDDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
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It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
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I needed this today.

Fuck off pinko, you're ideology always fails or leads to totalitarian nightmares, at least under capitalism those we serve are the one's with the best ideas

I think communism works, but only in small comunities, cause at its core all it takes is one bad apple to screw the whole system; thats why it will never work in large scales...

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Only post in this thread worthy of giving it a )you(

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As long as you keep your promise to abolish the state in the last stage i am in. But you never do.

You forgot something, faggot

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis page is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

gommies.gom/fug/

gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here: gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources: gommies.gom/ohshid/

gommies.gom/1984/

gommies.gom/guck/

gommies.gom/probaganda/

gommies.gom/XDDDD/

gommies.gom/wheresfood/

gommies.gom/benis/

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

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Profits are essential though. Call it whatever you wish but even good entrepreneurs need more money to make great businesses.

The real solution is for you to wake up, get up, and start a good business to take out the bad guys from the market.

Another key problem is who gets the power? If an incompetent guy is running a supermarket, I'd want to start my own and put him out of business. You know what they say about show dont tell? Its hard to get elected to be supermarket boss with little to show. Let me spend my money to demonstrate a great supermarket, then let me make my money back thru profits. After making my money back, let me build something other great business.

Markism-leninism is a shitty ideology killed by authoritarianism

(you)

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>communism works
Only a couple of years then everything goes to shit. The size of the country doesn't matters. Learn to history, nigger.

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communities aren't countries retard

>When Sup Forums is using communist made computers

kike

>china is communist
>t. authoritarian shithead

Pretty sure they all kill themselves at the end. Only the amish have that shit down.

>is against political correctness
>advocates for an Ideology that literally invented politcal correctness on an anti-politcal correctness board.

Why are communists so Autistic?

Please KYS

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please explain how communism "invented political correctness", authoritarian asshat

The only informatic thing ever produced under communism was tetris.

oh look it's this thread again

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>nvented politcal correctness
That was american liberal colleges from the 60's onwards. America is capitalist.

>he actually thinks (((trump))) has his best intrests in mind

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>people who lived under USSR did not enjoye...

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Did you suddenly forget about your labor camps, Stalin? I'm sure people don't want those back.

>Implying that half of the Trumpboos on Sup Forums ain't newfags from /r/TheDonald

>Implying forced labor was not common in penal law of all the industrialized nations, either socialist or capitalist, until at least the sixties.

That doesn't make it acceptable though

First programmable computer MESM (1950)

First Soviet and European electronic computers , BESM (Sergey Lebedev, 1951) and MESM (Sergey Lebedev , 1958)

First computer with ternary logic (faster and more reliable than the binary system), Setun (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1958) and model development Setun-70 (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1970) which further reinforced the aspect of programming, improving to by a factor 5 software development over other architectures time

First computer animated character.

First personal computer, MIR (Victor Glushkov, 1965)

First computer-aided education system in history (Nastavnik), with a clear reference to the current

First superscalar computer (processor microarchitecture capable of executing more than one instruction per clock cycle), Elbrus-1 (Boris Babaian, 1970). The use of this equipment in 1978, ten years before commercial applications appeared in the West, the Soviet Union developed its missile systems and nuclear and space programs.

Foundation of cybernetics (Victor Glushkov)

Invention of Tetris (Alexey Pajitnov, 1984)

Invention of the FAR file manager, RAR and WinRAR format file (Eugene Roshal)

First mobile phone, Leonid Ivanovich Kupriyanovich (1955), which was copied by - the USA in 1970 and Finland in 1980 gave him a civil use with Nokia.

cry me a river soyboy

>criminals and subversives do not deserve gulag or a bullet

Why not? It is a form of prison as any other, the only difference being that it doesn't place a burden on society, gives the prisoners something to do, and teaches them trades and manual skills. Properly managed can be a great way to punish and reform criminals. Besides, muh Catalunya did it too and I have never seen any anarcokiddie crying about it.

The one who deserves a bullet is you, tankie

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Just like slavery gave the slaves something to do and kept them fed.

>criminals/subversives == slaves

Soyboy logic at its finest!

>le soyboy maymay
Who defines who is a criminal? You? Fuck off tankie

Ok smartass, then how would you punish convicted criminals? And don't give me some "muh freedom" or "muh political prisoners" meme, I mean real criminals: thiefs, murderers or rapists.

Political corectness is 1 of the core principels of cultural marxism. cultural marxism is just archieving communism by cultural means. so that means that political correctness is a Communist ideology. and is thus Communist itself

Again KYS

The real quote is "He who does not work, shall not eat". It triggers Sup Forums because half of the people here are edgy teens or neets.

Cultural marxism is a buzzword.

Sounds slavery

>implying 99% of modern communists are not neats.

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>Who defines who is a criminal?
Workers in a democratic fashion.

These threads are so tiresome. If anyone actually wants to ask questions about communism etc. go ahead.

>le cultural marxism maymay
ebin

""""""democratic""""""

does not change the fact that political corectness is a Communist creation. it,s endgoal is to destabilize the cultural integrity of a society enough so that Communism can be archieved.

political correctness is a neoliberal/postmodernist creation

Anyone who unironically uses the word "99%" as any argument is an ignorant twat.
I'm still waiting for your answer.
I wish your crap was true, we would archieve magic space communism in a couple of months.

>that moment when you don't have an argument so you just focus on the meaning of a word.

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Down wid teh Boogercheese!!

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>that political corectness is a Communist creation
It started in american colleges in the 60's. And America is capitalist

This is what those evil Soviets, destroyers of culture, were doing in the 60's

youtube.com/watch?v=_XxK2JJisEc

>when you have no argument but claim you do

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> i wish your crap was true
Not an argument try again.

>"It will work this time" meme
>Said by a nazi
How's that Grossdeutschland going, sonny?

>n-not an argument

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Portuganon already answered you.
Don't ignore me user for the sake of the debate answer

My argument was that political corectness is a Marxist goal principal. you did not present anything to counter that. so yes it is in fact an argument.

Saying that it is a liberal post modernist creation is simply not true. Political correctness comes from the frankfurt school which where marxist intellectuals.

Keep trying kiddo

>It started in american colleges in the 60's.
No it didn't, but even if we take your retardation at face value...

American colleges
1960s

That is exactly where and when the communists started stirring their bullshit.

You literally could not have picked a more commie/leftist environment than American colleges in the 60s.

I mean, fucking lmao, you useless moor

Also, the US is corporatist/quasi-fascist. Not capitalist.

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criminals are punished by those who they infringed upon

>t. neoliberal larping as a nazi

Hippies weren't commies. Hippies completely forgot about class struggle and instead focused on "social struggles".

You have to understand something. Commies!= liberals.

>Also, the US is corporatist/quasi-fascist. Not capitalist.
NOT REAL CAPITALISM

Take off your flag, Sup Forumstard

National socialism atleast did not fail because of it,s core ideologic principles. it got destroyed by war. unlike communsim which destroyed itself because it,s ideologic principles were doomed from the start/ National socialism proved that it worked economicly.

But that wasn't real communsim am i rite?

I am sympathethic to communist ideas/Marxism but i have to start asking, why are you guys do damn lazy? Where is the revolution already? It's been how many years now?

nazism had no economy outside of war. there is no proof that nazism would actually work economically. stalinism failed because of brutal dictators and angry citizens tore apart the country

Now i am a neo liberal? i thought you said i was an authoritarion?

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shitty larp

>Political correctness comes from the frankfurt school which where marxist intellectuals.
That is a myth. The Frankfurt school made a critique of the degeneration of culture in late capitalism. If anything, it was quite conservative in that regard.
Glorification of war and social darwinism were core components of the national-socialist ideology.
>But that wasn't real communsim am i rite?
The USSR was clearly socialist and marxist-leninist, and I defend it. Don't use shitty memes as arguments.
That does not really answer my question, it's just a slogan. Suppose that there has been a murder. How is the the murdered supposed to punish his murderer? His family does it for him? His neighbours? And according to which principles, the Law of Talion (eye for eye)? Who is supposed to enforce the punishment? Is the one who has been infringed upon supposed to do it? What if he is unable to do it, or does not want to? What if the criminal escapes. Is the victim supposed to follow and capture him?
I'm talking real world here, not childish slogans.

>no proof that National socialism worked economically
>completly ignores National Socialist germany's economical revival during the 30,s. which brougth the country out of the depression faster then any other nation.
> no proof

How does it feel to be a part of the most failed and second most genocidal ideology in the history of Man?

he gets punished by the small worker's collective then

government intervention may fix an economy for a short time but it will destroy it in the long run

National-socialist "economic revival" cut worker wages by more than half, the only thing that improved were the profits of the heavy industry because of huge government contracts, subsidies and slave labor.
The great "miracle" of ending unemployement is not really hard to accomplish when you conscript millions of young men into military service.
Don't know, ask the nazi over there.

>3 posts in

Glad Sup Forums is staying on the ball.

So you agree on principle that a collective authority democratically elected by the workers can have the right to punish criminals?

one the size of a small town (~1000 people)

also not democratically elected, but directly managed

Nazi's allegedly killed 6-12 million people and only failed due to a military defeat.

Communism collectively killed over 100 million people in one century and has collapsed on itself time and time again to to the unsustainable within the ideology itself.

Even if the holocaust happened to the extent the Jew's claim. Communism is still responsible for 94 million more genocidal deaths.

>ITT meme flags have a shit flinging contest
You're all the same cancer.

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One cannot blame an ideology on the actions of dictators exploiting the masses under the name of false equality

There you go I baked some OC, hope you like it

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>That is a myth. The Frankfurt school made a critique of the degeneration of culture in late capitalism. If anything, it was quite conservative in that regard.

it indeed maked a critique. it is called critical theory. critisize every fundamental cultural,national and racial foundation upon which a country is build to destroy the national unity. divide groups of people against eachother to make way for a communist take over. denying that the frankfurt school was a marxist think tank is a meme of its own

>Glorification of war and social darwinism were core components of the national-socialist ideology
Social darwinism yes. glorification of war is partially true. The national-Socialists believed a nation should not shy away from war if it was in the best interest of the state and the race. it did not gloryfi unnecesary conflict

>The USSR was clearly socialist and marxist-leninist, and I defend it. Don't use shitty memes as arguments.

Seeing a joke as an argument, really dude? so by saying that in fact the Soviet-Union was a true marxist state. you admit that it is a failed state and thereby a failed ideology right?

>marxism is the same as marxism-leninism

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So how would you do so in say Moscow? And what would you do if the crime concerns more than one community?
How in blazes are a thousand people supposed to assemble, debate and pass judgement every time someone commits a crime?
>Communism collectively killed over 100 million people in one century
No neutral source has ever confirmed such outlandish claims. The fact that you support this kind of cold war propaganda and at the same time question the holocaust is laughable.
>it is called critical theory
No.
>glorification of war is partially true. The national-Socialists believed a nation should not shy away from war if it was in the best interest of the state and the race. it did not gloryfi unnecesary conflict
That is not true, both Hitler and Mussolini defended that military conflict was not only needed but desirable, and put that theory into practice.
>so by saying that in fact the Soviet-Union was a true marxist state. you admit that it is a failed state and thereby a failed ideology right?
No, that's like saying that since the First French Republic failed liberal-democracy became a failed ideology. Who is to say that in two hundred years historians will not see the time between the 90s and today in the same way historians today see the time between the defeat of Napoleon and the revolutions and 1848.

Bretty good :DD

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Communism is just post-scarcity society. Literally all the advance of progress and science points toward it, unless some retards nuke everyone into the ice age or the SJW infestation (or the Nigger cancer) kill everyone.

That doesn't mean you should try to advance faster than the speed of Progress. Just wait. Don't kill anyone, don't be a moron, try to make yourself useful, and the sweet tide of Science will make your perfect communist utopia.

post-scarcity is a meme

>How in blazes are a thousand people supposed to assemble, debate and pass judgement every time someone commits a crime?
Through the internet

>National-socialist "economic revival" cut worker wages by more than half, the only thing that improved were the profits of the heavy industry because of huge government contracts, subsidies and slave labor.
The great "miracle" of ending unemployement is not really hard to accomplish when you conscript millions of young men into military service.

you clearly have no idea about anything that happened in 30,s National Socialist,s germany. The average German worker in 30's NatSoc Germany had much more spending power than during the weimar republic(where wages meant nothing because money was worthless). in 3 years time 5 million germans who did not have work had work again.They solved the entire unemployment problem in 3 years time/ most of those 5 million workers got jobs building the autobahn and working on other parts of the german infrastructure. only in 1938 did germany really began to rearm. so your shitty muh rearmament argument isn't even relevant. all layers from NatSoc Germany,s people benefitted from theeconomic miracle. At the same time the Soviet Union was starving it,s own citizens because of a failed collectivisation rpogram. this really shows.

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>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
No, communism is a bullshit stage of communal living where everybody lives in packs of 12 and the leader fucks all the wives.

>They solved the entire unemployment problem in 3 years time/
No, you fucjking retard. Hitler drove the unemployment to near 0 because he took out jews, women out of unemployment statistics, reinstated the draft and recruited the "work-shy" into forced labor schemes.

>most of those 5 million workers got jobs building the autobahn
you think 5 million people worked on the autobahn? Either way autobahn construction was started during Weimar republic.

That is not true, both Hitler and Mussolini defended that military conflict was not only needed but desirable, and put that theory into practice

Only mussolini said this.

>No, that's like saying that since the First French Republic failed liberal-democracy became a failed ideology. Who is to say that in two hundred years historians will not see the time between the 90s and today in the same way historians today see the time between the defeat of Napoleon and the revolutions and 1848.

false equivalence. The first french republic did not fail because it,s ideological principals were doomed and could not work.

o shit a communism thread

communism sure is stupid. but do you wanna know what's stupider?

not addressing it as a legitimate ideology and instead deriding and mocking it at every turn. when people who lurk these threads see that no valid counter-argument is presented they'll start to think that communism has merit, since the only replies to communist threads are meemays and >implications, which will make it look like opponents of communism have no counter-argument to present, ergo, there is no counter-argument to communism.

even though communists tend to be as dense as a sack of spanners, those interested in defeating it must fight it with facts and reason, not memes and derision.

hand-waving communism away will give it romantic allure and make it seem like a cool, gnarly, radtastic underdog ideology to those who are less inclined to think for themselves, and not an ideology responsible for 100,000,000+ deaths and pushing humanity to the brink of a nuclear apocalypse

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cool story britbong

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NatSoc Germany had a higher percentage of woman in the workforce before the war then ether france or england.

5 million Germans got work because of the autobahn and other infrastructure jobs. they were also put to work in the civillian industry