you keep your AR15
but it's bolt action
Would Sup Forums accept this compromise?
you keep your AR15
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Yea until it becomes classified as a high capacity bolt action sniper
As I learned it, 'bear arms' is literally all weapons, without restraints, at all.
the basis of the AR15s function is a direct gas impingement system that makes it semi automatic
here is an option that undermines this basic mechanical concept
its exactly the same
you get to keep your tacticool design goy!
There are a million other semi automatic rifles available to me. What would be the point in making AR15s bolt action?
Only bolt action allowed sounds like an infringement to me. Someone remind me how the second amendment goes again
being this retarded
If all Liberals kill themselves first, I might think about it then. Your move op.
nice try schlomo
Carbine? I don’t see a “bolt action” in that photo
Mandatory deescalation classes.
No reduced access, better safety.
kennedy was killed with a bolt action
3 high precision shots in 5.6 seconds
There are explicit notes for things that are not able to discriminate targets, like bombs.
Get nothing positive, only negatives out of the deal
No, it's a well-known tactics to destroy something in the long run.
I'd accept it in that I'd own one as a novelty, but I'd put it next to my real AR 15.
Does it come in .308, I wonder?
YOU HAVE TO BE IN A MILITIA YOU FUCKING CONSERVASHITS
All citizens are in the militia. Try again.
Why should we want to compromise?
it's a push pull bolt action like the schmidt rubin
we are in the pol militia. there are no requirements and we never meet. rekt, or does the constitution lay out how often we have to meet to be a militia? (pro tip: it doesnt so get fucked nigger)
It would be like electing Trump a second time.
No, besides you can already buy a 0.223 bolt action.
Tfw would still be banned in australia for being too assaulty
Learn the law, dipshit. All over 18 are in a militia.
while criminals still get to have black-market semi auto if not full auto rifles imported from mexico?
Would OP accept this compromise?
you get to keep your niggers
but only if they're sterilized
You're an embarrassment and a traitor
Bolt action with a cuck mag.
But not cannons, oddly.
We are, you ignorant fuck.
Yes. 100 years from now my country will be a utopia.
I can live with that.
Only if EVERY citizen is required to take these classes. No registry faggot.
I'm going to cut your right arm off
but you can keep your left arm
we are compromising
How is you getting less of what you want and me getting nothing a compromise?
No more compromising. Every time we give the left a cookie, they want a glass of milk. Shall not be infringed.
No thanks, liberal faggots.
A .50 BEOWOLF pistol. You monster.
iT'S STILL BLACK AND SCARY
I already have an AR, what's the compromise? what is your faggot side giving up, meme-flag nigger?
Why does nobody consider healing our society?
If society couldn't cope with peanut allergies, peanuts would be illegal too.
This is societies fault, the people need healing and then they won't go killing.
This makes sense now why I was called illiterate.
This, and unironically this.
see the British mad minute drill
desu the bs needs to stop and we need to push back. Not to retain the shitty right we are left with but to get back the one we are born with which would include things like
What are you giving up in this compromise?
thats a side charge dude, kys
Because think of the children goy
Fuck off. No compromising with communist scum. If you liberal fucks are given one inch while you're not in power you'll take a mile when you are.
That is not a compromise, you didn't give anything up.
Prices will still go up, from retail or cheaper from craigslist.
Is that a real screencap?
What the fuck is the purpose of an AR15?
Assuming its in 5.56? What can it do that a 22 cant. And what can it do that the AR10 in 7.62 can't do better.
Let's face it if your going to own a battle rifle get one in 7.62.
Didn't this happen several other fucking times? Why is it always this side that needs to (((compromise)))?
How about you compromise by allowing machine guns, but only outside of big cities
and i should have full auto
you can keep your free speech, but only if I agree with it.
What about shotguns?
FYI you can buy .50 caliber air rifles, a backpack full of compressed air(way lighter than a backpack of ammo) and you can blast through walls and cut people in half with every single shot you fire
Will liberals ban compressed air? Air rifles can legitimately be more dangerous than any traditional rifle.
No, it's not semiauto
7.62 isnt a battle rifle my dude
not secretly baking a second cake
Shotguns are significantly more effective at killing than assault rifles.
Try to shoot skeet with an AR15, then try to shoot skeet with a .12 guage or a .20 guage.
Now imagine those skeet are humans. Shotguns are much more dangerous. Liberals have no brains.
YOU HAVE TO BE IN A MILITIA YOU FUCKING CONSERVASHITS
supreme court already agreed that militia is everyone 18 to 45. You lose
Funny, because Trump is doing more to ban guns than Obama.
Take religious teaching out of classroom and most homes
People start killing each other maliciously
What happened? What the fuck do you think happened? Better ban dangerous shit and lock each other up just in case.
never considered that. vectored weapons maybe.
How is offering me something less without you giving any concessions a fucking compromise?
Might want to get it through your jew skull my gun rights are not yours to withhold.
You could keep legal versions of the others too
I GUESS THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING THE CUN ANGLE LATELY.. LETS FIRE UP THE REDPILLS FOR THE NORMIES
You don't. The "bear arms" part of your 2a is actually the prerequisite to have a well regulated militia. It literally states that since you need a well regulated militia to protect the security of a free state, and since to form a militia all individuals need to own and know how to use guns, their right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
I can understand this as a non-english speaking spaghetti nigger. How stupid do you have to be to actually believe bullshit like the one you just said, or that the amendment covers only muskets?
i got your back senpai
How about niggers and kikes and spics are allowed to stay, but they all have to be dead?
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
you keep your AR15
If I have a bolt action, it sure as shit isn't going to be chambered in .223/5.56
No, why the fuck would i want a less effective gun?
Depends on the range though.
Fighting an insurgency? You need to be able to lay suppressing fire at 100-200 yards.
still looks terrifying ban it
kill yourself you coward
What can it do that a 22 cant.
Several things actually. Shhot further, does more damage when it hits something and in my stated you can hunt big game with it. You cannot hunt deer with a 22.
Every white man between the ages of 16 and 65 is a defacto militiaman in America.
Get nothing positive
You can keep your ar instead of just getting it banned
So what are you giving up?
you keep your teeth
I give them to you in a bag
damn, sounds like a deal to me!
people forget the militia is literally civilians that could be called up in times of need or war (see selective service/the draft) not a bunch of weekend warriors out larping in the woods
and that civilians need access to any and all arms and training
You are now aware that the 2nd amendment doesnt reference guns, but an equal defense. We have guns because the government and other governments have guns.
However we are entitled to equal defense, which is not entitled with guns. So, in fact we should be able to aquire tactical nukes as well.
All citizens of age are part of the militia.
Well regulated, if the government was the one who defined that, would be a conflict of interest. The citizens define what well regulated is, never the government.
Remove your dixie flag, yankee carpetbagger.
El goblino and der fuhrer Hogg will never take our semi-autos unless they want to come do it themselves.
Fuck niggers and heil Hitler.
7.62 isn't battle rifle
Right arm of the free world wasn't in 7.62?
I am the militia, freedom hater.
Yes but this is much different than, for example, a school.
Show us your regulations to see if you're "well-regulated"
What happens when they make mandatory safety classes available only to a select few? Or they make it so expense that one can afford?
He means 7.62x51
Bolt action is best action. But why would I pay all that money for an AR15 that isn't even automatic?
I've taken a deer at 300 yards with a ruger 10/22 but I'm an exceptional marksman
A .22 can legitimately hold back an entire platoon if used correctly
I like you, Guido.
Everybody forgets the Founding Fathers feared a standing army and gave people the ability to not require one.
This is the dumbest post I'll see all week. Thanks user.
Better than lose it all like the idea that's raining momentum now would have it
find an ar15 chambered in 7.62x51
That phrase means "well equipped for action", not overly burdened with government regulations.....for obvious reasons....
Come and take it faggot
But you can hunt deer with a full calibre rifle round AR10. if it's semi auto 556 has no use is my point 22 does the small shit 7.62 does everything else.
You can get any weapon chambered however you want
Where can I order this ? It's exactly what iim looking for in Canada
How about ending gun-free zones?
Some hunters are particular about how they kill their game, particularly relating to what they want to do with the meat and the hide. Alligator hunters specifically use .22, along with butchers.
I'm not going to lie, that's beautiful.
Find one but I'm not waiting we will be here forever.
sure why not.
I think there are some but cost a lot
you need to compromise!
no, the other side isn't giving up anything
the compromise is not losing all of your rights
what do you mean you don't support that, you monster!
every male over the age of 18 had to register for selective service in order to be called upon in the event that a draft is needed. i wonder if there's a term for that...
You think people don't hunt with 556? Come on.
Because liberals know only that particular gun by name. What's funny is I probably never would have bought one if they weren't constantly trying to get them banned. I'm more of a 7.62x39 guy
i know this, i didnt realise it was near .308, fair enough
no fuck you
just a regular mossberg, but that magazine doesn't come with it
granted by the second amendment
user, the right to bear arms is granted by the Almighty God. It is the right to protect yourself and all within your reach. The second just tells all levels of government that they cannot infringe upon that right.
The Mosin Nagant wasn't a battle rifle
wait i thought liberals were compressed air?
As I learned it, 'bear arms' is literally all weapons, without restraints, at all.
all americans did not have the right to bear arms, and the 2nd doesn't even say that. Only militia members, which was the army at the time, could bear arms. We have a professional military so regular citizens no longer should have military weapons.
Literally 5 seconds on google bro, I buy guns all the time I have multiple friends with AR15s chambered in this caliber
I keep my AR
and that's it. You have 0 leverage in this deal and I have guns. Take off that flag, shameful.
.308 is interchangable with 7.62x51 nato rounds
nah its just a .308 ar which is common
Read the Second Amendment again.
That's not a bolt action.
which was the army at the time
shhhhh they will want to take the guns away from any body over 45
Dat fake news.
i didnt realise this, but yea, im building a 6.8 pig gun right now
So you can't own a gun past 45?
I won't settle for anything less than a super M60 or leopard 2.
Sick dude that'll be tons of fun
Don't let a game warden catch you in my state. Illegal to hunt big game with a .22, must be larger.
And you can hold down a platoon with one, but I would prefer something stronger and more powerful.
all males over the age of 18 had to register with the selective service in order to be called upon to wage war when a draft is deemed necessary.
that's the definition of a militia you stupid fuck.
This user gets it.
Battle rifles have detachable magazines.
There may be an argument here for 9mm carbine over the 22?
Carry one type of ammo.
Though my experience is with 22 and Enfield 303. So I may not be the best judge.
Then it's not an ar15 retard
So you are giving up nothing.
Annnnnnnnd go fuck yourself.
Come talk to me when you put some skin in the game.
Yes of course you would prefer that, but sometimes a smaller caliber does better especially if you dont want to be found.
As for the fish and game comment, yeah, know the laws in your area.
How about this. We start the entire discussion with ALL fire arms laws revoked. We start from zero.
Now, let us talk about compromise.
Go fucking kill yourself and i'll compromise right now, seriously, kill yourself and ill turn them all in
Having one kind of ammo is quite nice. This of course is always determined by your specific needs.
That's the 7.62x54 i think the same the draguniev shoots
Yes. Really a fantastic round.
.223 bolt actions are common and cheap as shit too. enjoy a savage for next to nothing.
The right to bear arms does not belong to the militia, but the people. The militia is necessary to the security of a free state, but it is the right of the people that shall not be infringed.
The person who wrote the fucking amendment stated in the debates while passing it ALL CITIZENS were in the Militia and that well regulated means access to own fucktard
Take a basic history class in college next time, scholmo
the right of the people to keep and bear arms
Men over the age of 45 may be essential to training and supplying the men of the militia. The difference is the older men may not be subject to a draft.
How many times does it take to compromise a persons rights until they have no more rights left to compromise?
There are non-intermediate 7.62 cartridges.
you are so fucking wrong on so many levels i don't know if retard is the appropriate word to call you.
did you register for the draft?
do you know what that makes you?
REEEEE GET OuT BOOMER
oh look, it's this thread again. fucking sage
You know that and I know that, but the illiterate communists that want to restrict our rights don't believe in God and don't consider owning arms a human right. If you want to argue with them, you either have to convince them of those things or frame your arguments in terms they can understand.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms
Therefore we are not currently regulated and our rights have been infringed upon because they refuse us the ability to get tactical nukes
Troy makes a pump action AR that you can buy at cabelas in my shithole state of CT
Oh look at this English expert chime in.
They are two seperate but related clauses, that is what the semicolon is for.
falls for obvious bait
still acts condescending
I swear that every day is like all are new here
deer isn't the only thing we hunt. 556 is perfect for hogs and coyotes
What do you give up in this compromise?
What's your point Nige?
find an ar15 chambered in 7.62x51
Not AR10 not ATStyle
An actual AR15.
they are regulated unconstitutionally and our rights are being infringed.
Tactinukes? What about my right for commercially available recreational nukes. That's a direct impingment on mah liberty.
GIB NUKES PLEASE
I mean, who wouldn't want to spend $1million dollars on a nuclear warhead just to see a huge ass firecracker in the desert
haha good thing the rights are granted to the people.
the classic argument of "The government was giving itself the right to bear arms"
I thought brits didn't have regular access to the proper sized pipes.
its really embarrassing that you cant understand English grammar in a country that has one fucking language.
If there's any shared culture between all Americans, it's this - most of our political beliefs are more based on a hatred for the opposite rather than a love for our own values. Most people are more in favor of policies that hurt their opponents more than ones that help them (ex. the left being pissed that lowering everyone's taxes means the rich also won't pay as much in taxes). Add in a dose of social alienation wrought by spending more time on the internet than with real people and you've got a recipe for a society of people who hate all the "normies" (however they define them) that surround them, and suddenly it becomes clear why some people just snap and shoot up a bunch of strangers
This might be the gayest post today...
Battle rifles are semiauto
Don't tell the libs they'll change assaulty weapons to an actual rifle type then your fucked.
Killing commies and plinking on the weekends.
Nomries are kill
An actual AR15.
its called an AR10
Its literally just the upper and the barrel that they change
Every gunsmith, large and small in America can provide this for you for less than $200
Reserve Militia - every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age
militia members =/= Army
This wasn't even the case back then.
We are not Britain, and 5.56 does not warrant bolt action.
I dont know about you, but I wanna buy Milsurp nukes for recreation on the weekend, imagine the BBQ's by the light of a nuclear glow over the horizon
.223 with a 69 grain bullet is fine for large game.
We are in a militia, you dumbfuck.
BY VIRTUE OF BEING A CITIZEN IN THE BEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET
Now go die.
Unless you really want to kill Coyotes and ground hogs at long ranges
A little excessive for coyote. .223 drops those pricks just fine.
Looks quite stupid to me, even here you can easily buy any kind of semi-auto rifle in better calibers. Also if main reason for civic weapons is to opose possible goverment abuse even semi auto rifles seems ridiculous - you should demand at least full auto without caliber and mag size restrictions.
Lets be honest - all weapons meant to hert people.
t.owner of SKS
Go back to work
The ATF is here, faggot...
I’m a sick, sick man
.556 and .223 is the "same" round
Yeah you can hold us down for about 10 minutes until CAS evaporates your entire OA
Fuck no. Pump action would honestly work better, an Mlok handguard could have the slots opened up into one long channel. Then you replace where the gas tube goes with a rod to actuate on the gas key. Connect it to a sliding pump on the handguard and voila!
Then all you do to convert the fucker back to semi auto is drill the tiny gas port, slide the gas block over, and attach a gas tube.
I'd love to see the insides of that bolt action AR, I bet it would be stupid easy to convert back to semi auto.
I'm more a 77gr soft point guy for bigger game, but if you can do it with a 69gr then more power to you, user.
Hard to believe these guys will be the most dangerous gun owners.
No. It's still scary looking. We have to ban picatinny rails and composite materials.
White men will accept whatever is shoved down their throats. There will be a lot of whining and whinging and empty threats, but they'll do as they're told, just like the white men in Britain, Germany, and Australia did.
I'd like to see bolt action only long guns and pistols with a maximum round size of .22LR. For self defense we can even invent smaller rounds that maim, rather than kill.
I mean mainly it's about buying time for evasion while not being found, wouldn't suggest digging yourself a foxhole unless you got a lot more power
No you aren't. You have to own a gun and be willing to fight and die. That eliminates 2/3 of the population.
only .22 pistols
The mob will be so pleased
If you have the ability to hold, aim, and fire a gun you're in the militia.
The right of the people
Americans practiced slavery at the time. slaves could not own weapons. indians couldn't either. I bet loyalists couldn't own weapons, neither could french and british and spanish.
Adult males age 17-45 are, by default, members of the irregular militia of the United States.
You don't have to go larp in the woods. If you have your selective service card, you're in the militia. Get a rifle and practice.
There is no compromise.
REPEAL ALL GUN LAWS OR WE GO TO WAR AND MILLIONS WILL DIE.
Battle rifles? Where's the battle?
Camels, buffalo wild boar
Largest we can hunt in aus. The boar not so much except them fuckers will kill you and when you shoot it you want it to go down.
No A-10 Warthog
No civilian B2 Spirit variant
No Tomohawk with conventional war-heads
The day of the rope is coming you commie goblin faggot..
so what...those are 100% legal
My bad. Savage round, but I've only fired the spam can rounds, the steel core.
My neighbor has a Remington-made Mosin that he likes to hunt with out of novelty. Says he only takes one round because if he missed, everything was scared off the mountain anyway and there was nothing left to try for.
banning semi auto
Fuck off they tried this in the 90s with hand guns.
Yeah, "the people" are Americans.
Hope you have a tax stamp.
If you refuse to fight and/or don't own a gun you aren't in the militia. That shit was written back when it was assumed every American loved their country and was willing to die for it. That's no longer the default case.
all americans did not have the right to bear arms,
Considering the very first battle of the revolution started because the British attempted to gun grab. Your statement is hilariously stupid.
and the 2nd doesn't even say that. Only militia members, which was the army at the time, could bear arms.
It states that "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Note that it says that it is the people's right, not the militia's right.
We have a professional military so regular citizens no longer should have military weapons.
And why would that be? Is every US citizen part of the professional military? Are you suggesting that we have a system like Heinlein's Starship Troopers?
Why. Gun liberties exist, and are fundamental. Don't like it, not my fucking problem. Some people misuse it - again - not my fucking problem. Kruzs school had a PO outside doing nothing.
Wrong. The citizens rights to bear arms shall not be infringed.
Then they should be, and need to be, physically removed and dumped in liberia.
You should read the 2nd amendment again.
Mind telling me exactly where it lays out your pontification?
Those are pistols faggot
Wtf am I reading
What do I get in return? This is a concession not a compromise.
Can I has 1 B52 plox?
Now look who pushes for tyranny. You nutters have no idea what America stands for.
Yeah, "the people" are Americans.
The people is vague, so we refer to the previous sentence for clarity. People = regulated militia.
They're pistols. Those things that look like stocks are arm braces and aren't intended to be shouldered.
However the ATF has come down and said that you can in fact shoulder your brace and not have it considered an SBR.
A hand gun ban makes more sense desu
Would you trade semi auto if every minority got deported?
It's not tyranny if they don't want to be here in the first place. If you don't love your own home, you should be removed and set free to find a home you will like.
The people is vague,
Don't do it its too fucking hard to get them back.
They just need to get a pipe license.
lever action ar15
kinda of want
obama is a nigger though
trump is still based even if he takes my guns simply because hes white
No wall to keep them from coming back in. No deal.
Yeah I don't need to. There is nothing in it about a mandatory civilian draft. All it does is grant people the right to own armaments.
why would anyone ever compromise with these scumbags?
I would trade one bullet for your life.
Oh fuck, britain already bans butter knifes, now they're going to ban piping and nails. How are they supposed to build there houses or use their toilets now?
Bin that turd.
When the fp is the bp
Nice containment thread
No MGM 164 with brilliant ATGM cluster warhead
It's like you don't even want to stop the tank columns.
You have to own a gun
Therefore everyone needs to be able to buy one, circular argument.
and be willing to fight and die
Says who? Willing under which circumstances? Who decides who is and isn't? The government (kek)? See the problems with this retarded way of thinking?
Zero compromise on my constitutional rights. You want my guns come and take them!
People are so dumb they probably think revolvers are manual
inherent rights to bear arms cannot be traded.
people need to understand this. we are not granted rights in the bill of rights, they are merely acknowledged as being inherent and the federal government is instructed to not infringe upon them.
My country literally just banned a slide bolt rifle from entering the country despite the fact bolt action is allowed because too assaulty.
The right of the people to keep and best arms, shall not be infringed.
Compromise is something mutual where either party won't get everything but both will get something.
You can't compromise with rights. You are just taking rights bit by bit.
That way of thinking will get your rope on the first of civil war 2: oathkeepers revenge
Prepare to rule from your bunkers kikes, civil war starts soon.
Hi I'm a member of the militia I have a slingshot and rocks
Oh I'm going to just stay inside, good luck my fellow militia men
50 years later
Oh grandson, I was a brave member of the militia and survived the war.
1. improve your reading comprehension.
2. Me. If you don't fucking fight what makes you think you are a member of anything but the do nothing club?
Its not a draft. The word "honorary" comes to mind. Ever seen a cop deputize a civilian?
Thanks for posting the proper response to my post
amrs =/= munitions
arms =/= guns (artillery)
show your real flag you gun grabbing kike, you aint no southerner.
Fuck you and your SCAR H
you faggots got a lot of what you wanted even before your little march. Trump banned bump stocks and Trump also signed into law the Fix NICS act when he signed the omnibus.
you fuckers keep pushing and it will end badly
good luck fitting 51mm of casing in a ar15 mag well
Amerimutts just cant read... it clearly says "the right to bear arms"
required 3 shots to kill
the mag defines what kind of rifle it is
If you believe in choice, then respect my choice to risk death in a battle to defend my freedom and dignity
Not for an AR-10. 7.62x51 will not fit in a standard AR-15 magwell. Lower for an AR-10 is larger than that of an AR-15.
Your logic is sound for most AR-platform rifles. The AR-10 is just bigger.
Its your choice to believe in whatever you want to believe in
Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, baby
No, the people must have arms such that the militia is viable. The militia depend on non-members for supplies. "The people" is not vague at all.
How many other hairs do you care to split today?
I got my card when I turned 18 thank God it ended when I turned 21
if you're going to larp be believable. why don't you explain to us all how this happened?
Shoo shoo game warden
You camels there ? Interdasting...
Ahaha gret stuff
those people are called traitors. they get the rope.
Only autopistols allowed!
that is what the semicolon is for.
Except there isn't a single semicolon anywhere to bee seen, you fucking paki.
Idk, I'm feeling pretty pedantic today. Proper terminology and knowledge is important, else you chamber a 300BLK in a 5.56 barrel and have an awful day.
show me a single ar-15 that only needs an upper swap to shoot .308
If you have anything respect ford animals you would not use a .22 to go hunting. I shoot vermin with at least a. 223 because even though the cause me damage I still have respect for them.
Alright fine. They need more parts than just that. Sounds good. Were in agreement here.
Your argument implies any change to the original patent makes it no longer an ar15. When clinton banned full auto, that was the point that you could no longer buy a real ar15. Following your logic of course. I can agree with that.
Another part of me says that if you put a bigger engine in your ford f150 its still a ford f150.
Can I have one B-2 and a side order of about 9 W-80s and enough fuel to get to California? I need it for uhh reasons
Dont take shots you arent confident in. Simple.
Implying someone wouldn't make a device that auto works the bolt
Do you freenuking license?
Compromising is a slippery slope. They will want to "compromise" on something else next time, and it will continue until all guns are banned. Then they'll come for our knives like in UK.