Is tipping

Is tipping..........

A) The height of modern western civilization
B) The fall of burger civilization

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definitely Yiddish shit.

It's bullshit that restaurants can pay shit wages with the excuse of tips. If your food is such shit that you can't afford to pay your workers a decent wage, maybe you shouldn't be in business.

what the fuck burgers, her in colombia we got served and at the very end we decide if we want to tip, usually we do because we are not fucking jewish scum like you

Dumbass. Do you want shitty service like they have in Europoor? The restaurant owners decrease the cost of food and the wage of the servers is dependent on good service. Also if you tip in cash they don't report to the IRS so everybody wins. You get good service and they get a moderately high income despite their lack of experience/training.

it actually is
A) not a problem in non-jewish controlled countries
B) not my fucking problem if you're a failiure and/or if your boss is a literal jew

Tipping is dumb as shit.

how's st. petersberg this time of year comrade?

Don't be fooled. You can only pull the no-tip stunt a couple times here in the states and get away with it. They will remember you and you will be fucked if you try to have any lasting relationships with a neighborhood restaurant. Everyone here tips, except niggers of course but servers know that they don't tip and default to shit service.

Hey, nobody is MAKING the employees work there.
I like tipping. I can pay well if the person is good at their job, and pay them nothing if they suck. It's called MERITOCRACY.

Why should I pay extra- I don't understand? Surly the tip would be included in the meal, what kind of twisted entitlement makes burgers think I should give my waiting staff even MORE money?

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In some countries it's an insult to tip.

What's the point of having cheaper food if I just end up paying for a tip? A tip should only be for excellent service. Average waiters should make at least minimum wage for providing service.

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I only tip when the waiter is hot
t. chad

This is an insanely stupid thread and I will sage, but as someone who was a waiter, bartender and floor manager all through college I have to say...tipping is absolutely necessary in the US. I made $2.15/hr as a waiter and EVERYONE and I mean fucking EVERYONE even niggers knew that not tipping is a nigger tier thing to do. In the restaurants even nigger waiters refer to them as "Canadians." ie.
Hostess: Hey user, I sat you a 5 top of Canadians...sorry.

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Our food is crazy cheap though. And our service is outstanding.

no, everyone pays their workers instead of shaming their clients into doing so

>if you aren't willing to have your food spit in, you're just a cheap piece of shit
I honestly cannot wait until you entitled pieces of shit are replaced by robots

You still end up paying less in America even with a large 20% tip fucko. But we get better service out of it.

Is the infographic saying ity's OK to tip so long as I tell them in advanced? Because I couldn't care less what some user thinks about me, I just don't wan't to be cheating the staff.

It's all just a social contact reach around so dumb dumbies (women) can make a living

>the only condition
The conditions for how to behave at the restaurant are set by the owner, not some fucking barista with leftist leanings. Why don't they set up their own coffee shops, make "tipping" mandatory, shame non-tippers, and see how far they get?

The only reason workers haven't unionized and asked for fairer wages is because the young girls like getting heft tips from Boomer patrons.

Tipping is a womanly scheme.

That's terrible and obviously should be illegal.
Seriously degrading. Dwarf tossingly bad manners.
Obnoxious bad mannered money grubbing revolting sputum stained vomit worthy, pay people for there crappy part time jobs with wages, not small change.

what does "default to shit service" imply?

They make more than the people who actually make the food.
They have zero reason to be crying about fucking anything.

I tip relative to the quality of service that I received. If I got stuck with some nigger server who was disrespectful, took for fucking ever to get anything done and was generally unpleasant, I won't tip one cent. But if I get someone that was polite and who did a good job then sure, I have no problem giving a 15-20% tip.

In my eyes the person has to earn it by doing their job properly, and part of that is making the customer feel comfortable and welcomed in the establishment. I will absolutely agree that not tipping ever is a nigger tier move, but y'all can't be mad if you did a shitty job and got nothing for a tip. That's a self inflicted wound.

It means you don't get soda refills without asking. Your order will be messed up a lot. And we will just generally ignore you if you're a nigger.

They NEVER tip EVER.

In Oregon servers are required to be paid at least minimum wage of $10.25/hr but there is still social pressure to tip.

>restaurants are able to bypass federal wage requirements

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa.... Bullshit. Even if it were true why the fuck does it fall on me to pay the missing amount through a fucking tip? Just find another fucking job if this one is not good enough you stupid cunt.

They make $300+ on weekend nights. Don't fucking listen to them, they spend it on drugs and cry for more.

Fuck that. At that point they are just regular employees.

Servers in America make bank. They would never support a wage hike because they know it would effect tips.

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tipping makes sense when you are looking for some specific service. But the idea the customer should pay extra because someone is underpaid is retarded. Should you pay extra in the discount store (walmart) because they get paid like shit? The waiters like everybody else should negotiate their pay with the employer.
If they don't like the pay they can spit in the boss' food.
If you want tips you should get on the pole cunt.

it’s shit, especially as a tourist.
also, why the fuck is it percentage based? the amount of work is the same whether you bring me a stupid burger or caviar.

I used to work as a houseman at a Hilton hotel, and I got tipped maybe $5 total for the work I did over a 6 month period. On two occasions I took over as a bag man for someone and got tipped like $5 each time for basically no work. Everyone else - wait staff, maids, bag men, receptionists even, would get tips on a regular basis, but they guy who gets called when he's on break to clean up the dog shit in your room at 3 AM, clean up your kid's vomit from the side of the pool, bring shit to your room multiple times - nothing. I mention this because of the disparity in how tips are shared. If I could tip cooks and dish washers directly, I would - but wait staff? Give me a fucking break. You can tell when they deserve it and 99% of the time they don't.

Because servers are the most entitled workers in America.

I only tip white waiters and waitresses. I don’t see the point in giving my money to any others.

>Anonymous (ID: 0uniVunD) 03/27/18(Tue)21:47:59 No.165622161▶
> Is tipping..........
> A) The height of modern western civilization
> B) The fall of burger civilization

Almost non existent in France.
Well let say it's damn rare we don't have this culture to tip.
You are already paid for your job.
I maybe did it sometimes rarely.
If the service is excellent why not but 10% really kek ?
The only guys that take that much are Seller agent like in a car garage.
And believe me some lost fews sell because they wouldn't seat on their 5-10% margin directly in their pocket.
So you with your 10% tiping for every fucking service it's just like a joke for us.


> Be a french user go to see a new car in a garage.
> The seller tell me they got one already in stock, it's car of direction with 3000 miles but like news.
> full options.
> I'm interrested
> The seller tell me about the price -10% than totally brand new.
> is that your lowest price or are you able to negociate ?
> seller tell me no , it's is last price to the floor.
> ask him if i look like an american ? because the car already lost 20% of it's value.
> seller lost a sell because he wouldn't seat on his 10% bonus directly in his pocket.
> tell him about a garage who import car who sold them brand new without any mileage for 20% less than price brand news.
> The seller is getting pissed.
> Bye.

Go get a real job you fucking faggots. You all know the tips are bretty gud - if someone doesn't tip you once in a while fuck your feelings.

Stay in school kids. Serving is already a niggers jobs lol SERVANTS COMPLAINING ABOUT SERVING HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

You better work for that fucking tip, boy.

And share that shit with the kitchen staff, everybody knows they're the ones doing fucking EVERYTHING.

Boooooohhooooooooo lol you niggers can make up to $100 if you aren't a piece if shit server at a busy place.

Shut the fuck up and step the fuck up.

Where's my mother fucking western burger with onion rings and ranch dippin SUAZ BITCH?!?!?!!

THIS THIS THIS

Everyone likes the tipping system in America. Only faggots don't. Servers would be fine working $1/hr.

i worked in a bar were the tips were shared so when the drunks tipped the cutie i got my deserved cut. Female bartenders are basically gloryfied camwhores.

Nothing is more hilarious than a bunch of effeminate 98 pounders circlejerking about how they "dont tip". of course you dont, mommy makes you chicken tenders while u sit on your computer all night, fucking kek

Here in Belgium, you pay for each drink and we're used to the fact that you have to ask the waiter.
If you mess up orders were not paying for any of that shit.
If you ignore our orders you get fired for the simple fact that you don't do your job.

But then again, waiters here got a good hourly wage and tips are considered extras.

CAT 1: 11,6864 euro / our min / CAT 9: 17,3483 euro / uur MAX

14.8 dollar/hour up to 23.50 dollar/hour

You don't have to follow the percentage rule if you are low maintenance. Like if you get 1 refill, order a $300 steak and never talk to the waitress again you could probably get by fine giving a $10 tip.

Maybe if we stop tipping youngsters they'll have to find real jobs only to find out they've been replaced by Jose and Cuntswaylo while they were slaving away doing a niggers job?

Maybe then they'll open their fucking eyes and demand some real fucking change, puto.

Serving is for spics and niggers. When did we normalize this shit for good ol murcans? You mother fuckers should be managing at least.

I tipped your mom.

There's no good system usually. Am I supposed to leave the money in the TV stand? And what if a different cleaner than mine grabs the money? Good hotels will have a system in place that allows you to set up a tip for your cleaner included in the bill.

I'm sure kikes love the tipping system, but not tipping amirite?

No one who goes to restaurants likes the tipping system.
Only servers do, because it makes them bank and they can still cry about being underpaid because it's usually under the table.

ive been to many places in europe and the service is painfully slow compared to US. dont get me wrong, i realize its a cultural thing. the pace is just slower and people are cool with it. but coming from the US its quite weird that you can sit around for a longass time with an empty drink.

tips also serve a commission purpose for the waiter and restaurant. since a waiter gets tipped more for a larger bill (its a %), they are incentivized to encourage customers to buy more shit: drinks, apps, dessert, specials, etc. considering Sup Forums obsesses over "muh free market" and "muh minimum wage", you would think you faggots would love this system.

>be french
>top a car salesman

Holy fucking Kek. These people are DESPISED in freedomland. I make it a point to bring mud into car dealerships to shit up their floors. And tipping then never crossed my mind.

I'm not a big Tarantino fan, but what Buscemi's character says in that tipping discussion in the opening scene is exactly my thoughts.
You don't want to be at the mercy of people who might not be guilt-tripped into ponying up, go work as a dishwasher.

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Ahahaha! You have to pay for each refill!! Ahahaha!!

This never happened to let a tip in a bar for a beer or two.

The only tips we are used in france are mailman / garbageman / firefighter and so on once a year they are selling calendar in november / december.

the only guy i tip every fucking time is the guy that deliver me my wood to burn.
Because he never try to fuck with me.
always get me a bit more than what i asked for.
doest get the price up since 4 years
he deliver it directly in my yard so i have less work to do myself too.
and because a lumberjack job is a pain in the ass for me.
And even for this i round it up 15€ what i should have paid.

Sometimes its also the fact that the food isn't made in a deepfryer.

Idk, some people actually dont deserve a tip.
Instead you've got bitches whining that they NEED 20% of every ticket to survive and never realize they should EARN it.
This kind of entitlement is pure cancer and people like you are encouraging it.

Recently I ate out and I DID tip but the bitch thought I didn't tip enough so when I checked my account later I noticed she charged me more than I wrote in. That clearly illegal but since the amount was small I didn't bother investing in a lawyer. Still that kind of behavior just pisses me the fuck off, and yes I've worked in a restaurant before. I've seen both sides but the people who think they are entitled to a certain % no matter what, are by far the worst of the two groups. They are literal thieves.

If they want a tip I want two tickets. I want them to pay their taxes and I want to know how much I'm paying for their job.

I deliver pizzas for my job. I get paid 10 an hour and the tips in my town are nice, i’d say an average of 5 dollars. I don’t get that upset when people don’t tip me it happens on rare occasions. I can’t fucking stand these waitresses though that bitch and complain when they don’t get a tip.

I meant they get 5-10% on the cars you will buy there.

It's kinda like a tip if you don't negociate the price.

should've gotten her fired, definitely not the first time she's done it.

>I don’t tip
OP is a nigger confirmed.

>waiter

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spoiler: it was an Asian restaurant and I highly doubt they'd fire their own daughter or whatever she was.

I haven't gone there since though.

Most servers I know prefer the tip system. They make more money by providing excellent service than earning flat minimum wage.

>get bad service
>don't tip

>get good service
>tip
How is this hard for millennial waitresses to understand?

not sure if you're illiterate, but i specifically referred to drinks kiddo

Fuck waitstaff Niggers. If I tip I tip for the cooks and the dish washer. Why should the faggot with the easiest job get tipped?

>benefitting from low food prices

what the fuck are they yapping about, everything ive over priced, the portion serving size is the absolute minimal, and more of these people waiting on a table are fucking idiots who always get shit wrong even though they wrote the shit down.

now lets talk about tipping the pizza boy, first pizzas have also shrunk in size, they have a minimum dollar amount for delivery, and they have a fucking fee that cost more than a gallon of gas and STILL WANT A FUCKING TIP? it dosnt take a fucking gallon of gas to get anywhere in the town i live in, also i highly doubt the delivery boy gets that fee either. oh and the pizza is over priced and cold by the time it gets here.

now why the fuck should we support these greedy eatery owners? who refuse to pay their staff more than 2 or 3 dollars an hour, over charge for low quality food. this is the ONLY profession where this is allowed. the way i see it, ive already paid full price for my food and all this 3 dollar whore did for me was refill a drink [that cost like 2 bucks every time u refill the shit] and bring me my food? fuck that. how about you stop bitching at me for a few dollars more and stop being a slave and have some fucking dignity.

>servers in the US are paid $2-$3 per hour
>blame the customer

Tipping is fine. It ties their pay to their performance.

t. mover who makes like a third of his income in tips

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE

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I fucking hate beggars

also when you tip these people THEY dont get to keep all the money tipped, it gets split between all of the staff. fuck that socialist bullshit. this means your server could be working their asses off while their coworker for the night is completely incompetent and you tipp your server a hefty amount for the good job but in reality their coworker who is complete dogshit at their job gets half of what you thought was going to that one person

Yep. They're pretty much all dodging taxes, and you gotta love this phrasing:

> Servers accept this with the understanding that they'll be tipped based on their performance

With whom have they reached an understanding? I accept being charged for food with the understanding that a place will not ruin the experience with shitty service or unkempt servers.

This whole tipping thing is really only an issue at low-end or mid-range places. If you go to a nice place for dinner, they are usually more selective with their staff, in both appearance and comportment. Prices are higher and reflect food quality / effort, and generally the clientele is willing and *able* to tip well.

If I go to a hole in the wall diner or local mid range restaurant to get some quick eggs or a hamburger, I don't want to be pressured into ordering menu items I don't want, or to order booze I don't want to drink at 1 PM. How many tables does a server usually have per hour in a place like above? Lets say a conservative 3? I'm supposed to increase your tip-out by 5 bucks or more per hour while you have other tables, even if I order something that costs 10 bucks or less?

And above is only relevant if it's a one-off place. If the owner is a franchise corp or a chain or something, none of those decision making assholes have loans or mortgages on property. Given that servers generally don't agitate en masse for a no-tip system, because they're all tax dodgers, OP's graphic is a not so subtle lie.

It is not the owner and customer who conspire against the server. It is a reluctant alliance between server and owner against the customer - who subsidises the server's pay, which is understood by society and even tax collecting agencies to be tax exempt.

All servers under report. This is known. They don't bust people because it's selective enforcement, and there is societal pressure to not hurt the restaurant industry.

This applies to NA. Service quality more tied to price in Europe IME

Pretty much this.

Use to be a line cook and while the money I was making went to pay off my car loan and university classes, their money was spent on partying and drugs.

Now I have a paid off car and debt free while most of them are still living at home with no capital whatsoever (if some beta sucker hasn't bailed them out).

>Do you want shitty service like they have in Europoor?
From experience, we get great service regardless because any fucking monkey can be a waiter/waitress and are therefore so easily replaceable that if you don't do your job well, you're out. So basically you lose on every front.

I've only heard bad things about European service.

Sure, and yet I live in Europe, you don't.

>I've only heard bad things about European service.

French service being standar measure.

I'm sure you have your own system to measure the service with a guide books " the burger scooter " and their 5 wheels.

You can fucking eat in a 2 stars michelin restaurant for less than 40 buck in france ( out od the drink / cheese )

Tell us about the service burger , i'm waiting to read your stockpile of bullshit as usual.

>Pay your waitstaff way below minimum wage
>expect customers to pay extra so you don't have to
>''OY VEY, WHY DON'T YOU PAY THE POOR WAITERS YOU GREEDY GOIM!''

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i tip well for good service, but most of the time it sucks... even worse it drives me nuts when cashiers scoff at me for not tipping when i pick up TAKE OUT orders, like wtf the cook does all the work

its entitlement at this point