>why is this a big deal Because it upends the petrodollar (USD our fucking money) >how is that a big deal Our shekels only have value from everybody else buying oil with petrodollars china buying oil limits our ability to print money and once other countries start trading in their USD for assets we will face hyper inflation.
This is why (((they're))) trying to take the guns. We are on the road to Weimerica and they can't stop it.
so? They buy american debt with dollar. Stocking up on dollar like crazy
Robert Nguyen
btw, OP is a faggot Like always
Colton Torres
Retard get out THIS IS HUGE JEWS MOSSAD GOYIM AMERIMUTT NIGGER CATTLE GET IN REEEEEEEEEEE
Liam Gray
>WW3
WHEN
Joshua Lewis
>all caps jes you shills are lame Sold more btc for dollar
Tyler Gomez
>Our shekels only have value from everybody else buying oil Um, no.
Think for just five seconds, you stupid piece of shit. If only US money is used for oil, then you're saying every other currency in the world is worthless.
What we can conclude is that you're a dumb motherfucker.
Nathaniel Reed
but they are everything else is trash get redpilled.
William Rodriguez
>get redpilled. GTFO T F O
Ayden Russell
Ok, let me explain this to you goyim.
>the US bonds/debt has been decreasing in price for the last decades >it is now worth 0% or close to 0% (interests rates are the price of debt) >since debt is worthless and there's a lot of it, no one will want to borrow >but this means the old debt can't be repaid, since new debt can't fund investment
Result: Economic crisis, collapse, inflation, end of the US hegemony.
The stocks are already highly overpriced when adjusting for risk, which means there's a bubble, so the next realistic happening is the stock market crash. Things will accelerate from then on, with lots of happenings (crisis, conflict, possible small scale wars).
Mason Lee
America’s entire foreign policy is based around the petro-dollar. China better watch the fuck out.
Dominic Young
We had this thread like four times today.
Jaxson Sanders
All I can say is thank god for military industrial complex. China is about to get fucking raped.
Tyler Lewis
This user gets it
Aiden Turner
JewSA on suicide watch
Wyatt Smith
Now if Amerimutts increase the price of debt (fed interest rates), they will have to pay a lot on the total debt they have, which is huge. This will lead to a crisis due to all the money pouring away from the economy.
If they devalue it more, inflation and a crisis due to bubbled assets will occur.
>Muah shill memes >lets use more memes >The goy will believe me if I use his language GTFO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Xavier Fisher
RIP everything we had maybe a decade left now we're bonned forever.
Juan Rogers
Goyim learn2money
Logan Garcia
So you are saying to do some brass balled speculation on companies that do a ton of business in China (E.G. Apple Computers) and then sell out before war starts?
Adam Baker
Fed interest rates are short term interest rates used to incentivize lending so isn't that mechanism useful in stabilizing the price of debt issued by the gov?
Isaiah Jenkins
they are actually intermarrying with a lot of chinese women lately
Josiah Diaz
shut up you fucking kike, shitposting both sides doesnt help your outlook on the thread
not just the decade, we've been dead since we handed our industrialization to almost all of our companies to china, which was in the late 80s.
Cameron Fisher
>a memeflag coming for your rescue >triple reply Jesus christ it is so obvious you are following a script that it is just embarrassing. A bot could do your work more efficient and cheaper S to the e Buying more dollar as we speak
Elijah Hill
Also, the fed rates are inversly related to inflation. Devalue the debt more = more inflation = dollar falls in price even more.
But if there's inflation, there's a bubble and a crisis waiting to happen.
STOCK MARKET CRASH IS THE NEXT BIG HAPPENING
THERE WILL BE LOTS OF NEW HAPPENINGS TO COME SOON
JEWS MOSSAD GOYIM AMERIMUTT NIGGER CATTLE GET IN WAKA WAKA HAPPENING REEEEEEEEEE
Jace Gonzalez
We are building a pipeline to ship oil to China because Obama did not want to upset the injuns about building a pipeline on Federal land.
Chase Cooper
why do you shit post this damn hard, did the shitty black dick thread, or your shitty liberal bait thread die sad lil paki.
Gavin Harris
Dude, at least Google "petrol dollar" before polluting the board with your ignorance.
Luke Stewart
Fuck off goy nigger
Jason Garcia
This is actually huge, but Sup Forums will ignore it in favour of IBS shit
Isaiah Cook
Actually me old chum, if the Greenback lowers in value the OPPOSITE will happen with US equities -the US stock market will GO UP. Economics 101 bong. If you want recent proof of that look at Venuzula, it was the most devalued currency in 2017 and its stock market was the BEST performing.
Christopher Clark
The petrol dollar is the heart of the military industrial complex. It should be illegal for you to be this stupid.
Dominic Long
it is very huge this is the end of the petro dollar, people still think we are huge but we arent, the shitty pedophillic war mongering boomer politicians killed this country, constant war made our outlook look terrible. Noone wants to invest in us anymore because we make expensive shit to anything at all.
Julian Carter
ah, the great decline of the American Empire.
Brody White
The fed can play one way or another, but it can't stop obeying the laws of monetary supply and demand in the long run. If the fed decides to devalue the debt even more, the US bonds will get a junk status, the US will default on its debt, there will be a crisis due to a bubble forming due to inflation, or any combination of thereof.
Easton Harris
>the absolute state of your analysis
Alexander Long
you dumb faggot
> China, which owned an estimated $1.268 trillion in U.S. Treasuries, is the number-one investor among foreign governments, according to the June 2014 figures released by the U.S. Treasury. This amounts to over 21% of the U.S. debt held overseas and about 7.2% of the United States’ total debt load.
The bubble is already worse than black Tuesday, and it keeps getting worse.
Hunter Lee
because they have brics, and the euros, along with most of the middle east shifting toward them. This isnt the 90s anymore.
Mason Wright
>Our shekels only have value from everybody else buying oil with petrodollars
Want to know how i know you know nothing about economics?
Oil purchases are one source of demand for dollars. There are innumerable others. Your desire for dragon dildos gives USD value.
Charles Lee
I dont think this is as seismic shift as people think.
China buys heavily US treasuries, they have no interest in seeing the USD devalue since China exports to the US and relies on a relatively strong USD to buy all the plastic crap they make. Also the PetroYuan is a way for BRICS nations to trade Futures (a derivative) for speculation or hedging, on the price of oil - as opposed to buying and selling the underlying commodity Crude.
Aiden Morgan
because they are trying to make an empire again they dont really need us because we had the powerful petro dollar, now they can trade with the new world bank they just made along with the entirety of Europe, india, and atleast all of the middle east.
Noah Ward
CRP predicted this
Aiden Peterson
No im not an idiot Bong; did you even read my post or were you too busy sucker mo's cock??
US equities are at a very late cycle, we are over due a bear market from two years ago. However, we are unlikely to see a major crash only adjustments as corporate america plays a shrew game - the biggest buyer of US equities is now the corporations themselves, preventing the market from stalling.
Caleb Cook
>the chinks have dollars why would they want to devalue them If they can increase the value of their currency of course they would want to devalue something they have magnitudes less control of
Benjamin Turner
You still have a powerful PetroDollar Burger. The underlying US crude is traded in USD. The PetroYuan are Futures contracts for speculating and hedging purposes for BRICS nations.
Jaxon Nguyen
>he still thinks the us market still has major powers of the world
lol dude, our market is literally on death our housing market because noones buying houses, cars noones buying shit anymore, blame commie liberal millennials, really the only thing we have stable is oil and china is about to take that away.
William King
The chinks DONT want a strong Yuan -they want a weak one, since they are the worlds biggest exporting nation. Sup Forums Sup Forums the most economically illiterate place on the internet.
Leo Cox
the petrodollar doesnt really mean shit anymore, and chinas shit isnt speculation if they already have prepared traders and countries. They are also gold backed we arent.
Nicholas Howard
In the category of "too irrelevant for mainstream media" then this appear to be potentially significant.
Jose Wood
no they dont retard, they want to create a giant empire now xi is trying to start it, they are literally the industralization economic hot spot of this planet. Who wouldnt want a giant trading empire your still stuck in the 90s bong, get with the new times america is fucking dead and im going to commit suicide when chang comes and shoots me with his army rifle.
So, who are the oil suppliers that are willing to sell their oil for yuan? That's right.
Juan Davis
The stock market is in a serious bubble by all measures. It doesn't even matter who buys what from whom.
As for the debt, it's different now because the US can not devalue its own debt anymore without defaulting. The US played the game of debt devaluation throughout the last decades to fund its deficit federal spending for the military and the government - these times are over.
My bet on next big happenings: Stock market crash Recession and economic crisis A couple of small wars US debt crisis Gradual end of the US hegemony
These happenings are actually realistic. We are a year or two away from the first happening.
Samuel Sanders
I forgot the classic proverb "China always wants to be the chief global exporter and will do anything to maintain that position"
Juan Williams
i wouldnt even say its that far from now we are that fucked
Lucas Adams
Sure would be tragic if their ports started exploding again.
Jayden Rivera
Indeed that’s why China is gonna get some US freedom soon
Jordan Anderson
>the petrodollar doesnt really mean shit
The world still trades the underlying commodity Crude is USD. The petrodollar is very strong. Derivative futures contracts traded by BRICS nations are just derivatives for speculation and hedging.
>no they dont retard, they want to create a giant empire now xi is trying to start it, they are literally the industralization economic hot spot of this planet.
China is the world's biggest exporter and most of that is in USD. They cannot overnight or even in ten years go from being an exporting economy to a consumer economy. China's middle class is growing but they are very much classed as an 'emerging economy'. What do they teach in economics over there?
>These happenings are actually realistic. We are a year or two away from the first happening.
Aside from the stock market crash you predict everything else is already happening. My point is if a nation's currency devalues it's stock market WONT crash.
Easton Howard
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN??? IS THIS THE HAPPENING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR??!
ok dude keep believing that, sweaty stock and hedge fund investor, oh yeah what happened in 08 a stock market collapse, and dude print money was the only thing that saved us. If we didnt print money we would have died but we did die just not publicly known probably.
Alexander Taylor
No. Not even close. At present Yuan backed Oil futures are just exotic derivatives for traders or a way for BRICS countries to manage risk, by hedging.
If the US was to actually default on it's debt then hat would be the real happening. This would cause a complete pull back of investment out of the US and it would lose it's safe haven status.
Josiah Lopez
>dumbf's tariffs >china will "negotiate" / god emperor 3.14-D anti-gravity checkers .meme >meanwhile, chinks collapse mutt economy
Losing a few shekels to take down their biggest rival? This is exactly the soft power play China would make they're sneaky and they work hard. That $ would ruin us but it's just a bit more work for the Chinese and they've been working hard for years. They think generationally unlike us high time preference Western barbariniggers.
Samuel Ward
>>dumbf's tariffs >mutt economy
communism w-w-w-works right fellow liburl you sure showed them
Jace Rivera
There are no dragon dildoes or other commerce without oil to move the goods brainlet. Oil makes your food and gets it to your door. Everything is oil based.
Isaiah Torres
>china ends up killing the federal reserve jew How is this a bad thing long term?
Canada and Iran? Turkey already showed they're willing to buy literal ISIS oil and the EU will look the other way. What are we going to do bomb countries for trading with China?
Ryder Hall
Get Forex, short the dollar. But it's way too early.
Carter Peterson
because me you and the other 300 million will have to suffer the wreckage.
Cameron Thompson
GUYS I LEFT THE WINDOW OPEN AND THE BLINDS ARE VIOLENTLY BEING PUSHED AROUND ITS HAPPENING SUCK MY DICK RUSSIA IS USING THE EMPs TO NUKE MY TIMMIES HELP
Daniel Torres
You are all talking like if China has no debt either. They are also heavily in debt
Landon Gomez
>short the dollar
Against what? Werent you just saying US equities will CRASH? Why would you short the USD if the US stock market crashes? That makes no sense, you would go long on the USD.
Besides the currency market is pure speculation for average joe retail spot punters like Sup Forums neets. The only people who know are the banks, because they are holding the 'stores of currencies'.
Hunter Baker
It's a good time for you to go spending in Burgerland bong you'll be rich over that looking at the strength of sterling again.
Mason Ross
>anything no Gordon Gekko deep-throating = muh Stalinism
Chinese are not communist you massive retard, the only thing communist about them is the name.
Tyler Gomez
Trump will make his move soon. China + America are getting rid of fiat bois
Connor Gonzalez
>We are on the road to Weimerica and they can't stop it. They're probably going to try. There's a reason Trump is pushing for military spending and domestic steel/aluminum production.
Because they get no good deal for the fucking trillion dollars? And its not to late to drop the current deals without going down the spiral.
Nolan Watson
Short the dollar against any stable currency when the debt and bond crisis comes. A series of financial events will lead to the point where significant inflation will start, and a crisis similar to what happened to post-war Germany: inflation coupled with recession and crisis.
It will obviously not be as bad as it was for the Germans, but it was bad for the Soviets who had experienced the same fate the US is going through now: a loss of influence, devaluation of currency, and a loss of political relevance.
Gavin Russell
>blame commie liberal millennials Fucking commie boomers sold out American industry, and then collapsed the housing market. Millenials put themselves into debt to try and escape the boomer sanctioned poverty and it didn't work for most of them. Nobody is innocent; Blaming solely millennials for ~40 years of terrible policy is fucking stupid and I hope you're tortured and raped by niggers before you die.
If any of you Burgers get scared of the Chinks just buy only American and dont worry about those yellow slant eyed rice munchers, all of their stuff is plastic shit and a poor imitation of American / German / Jap engineering.
Good night and God bless Sup Forums and all Burgers
Andrew Baker
Its not so bad believe me as a survivor. At least you will learn lots of new skills.
Jeremiah Thompson
They tried this before and it failed, what makes this time different?
Jeremiah Watson
This, start farming and canning people. Life goes on for those who adapt, and many of us will probably be happier in the long run anyway.
They are still buying government bonds which is pretty much buying up US debt, since it always pays out. The current global economy post ww2 is a massive Jewish scam.
Nathaniel Perez
First Google and Facebook ban cryptocurrency ads and banks try to block people buying bitcoin. Trying to eliminate the economic escape hatch. Next, take the guns so there is literally no confrontation when the state goes bankrupt. Without these two pieces - banning cryptocurrency and banning guns - we are rats in a cage.
